Return to Canada without PR's
#1
Return to Canada without PR's
We landed in February (back in the UK at the moment) and had to have our pictures taken again for the PR's so don't have them yet - they are being sent to a friends house in Canada.
My sonnies going back in early June for 4 weeks. Will he have any problems getting in without the PR card? Someone told me you can get a temporary visa in the passport. Is that true and will there be a cost and how long do they take?
My sonnies going back in early June for 4 weeks. Will he have any problems getting in without the PR card? Someone told me you can get a temporary visa in the passport. Is that true and will there be a cost and how long do they take?
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Re: Return to Canada without PR's
I recently entered Canada without my PR card. I had left it at home. I explained when entering Canada via Vancouver airport. I was sent to see an immigration offer who asked me a few questions did a back ground check. 30mins later I was allowed entrance to Canada.
Not ideal but was not a major ordeal.
Not ideal but was not a major ordeal.
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Re: Return to Canada without PR's
When you landed you should have been given the counterfoil from your COPR. I was told by the immigration lady in Halifax that this would be fine for coming back into the country before the PR cards arrive.
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With a british passport and the COPR paper it shouldnt be a problem.
Getting on the plane is the main hurdle, rather than passing canadian immigration.
Maybe its me, but I seem to answer this question every single day...
Getting on the plane is the main hurdle, rather than passing canadian immigration.
Maybe its me, but I seem to answer this question every single day...
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Re: Return to Canada without PR's
As has been said, it should not be a problem entering canada without your PR card (as long as you have met the residency requirements). Occasionally you might have a problem boarding the plane. It all depends on which airline you are flying with and who you get on the day. The vast majority of people do not have a problem. but if you do, be extremely polite and patient.
If you want to remove the possibility of any problems, get travel documents. If you are going to be near a visa office. Download the form and take all the required paperwork and do it in person. There is a cost (30 pounds) and it could take 2 visits to sort it out.
check http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca...ande_tvrp.aspx for more information on travel documents for the london office.
If you want to remove the possibility of any problems, get travel documents. If you are going to be near a visa office. Download the form and take all the required paperwork and do it in person. There is a cost (30 pounds) and it could take 2 visits to sort it out.
check http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca...ande_tvrp.aspx for more information on travel documents for the london office.
Last edited by britsnake; May 18th 2011 at 3:49 pm.
#6
Re: Return to Canada without PR's
Canadian Affair (at least when you fly from Manchester) seem to be pretty strict about it... I've done it twice without my PR card and they made me sweat but still eventually let me on the plane.
Just bring all the 'proof' you have I reckon you will be ok (but dont quote me on this)
If you are really stressing, then you can get the travel visa as mentioned above. I called them and they issue it same day but you need to get there before 11am mon-fri.
Just bring all the 'proof' you have I reckon you will be ok (but dont quote me on this)
If you are really stressing, then you can get the travel visa as mentioned above. I called them and they issue it same day but you need to get there before 11am mon-fri.
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hmmm .. what could we call it ? not a sticky , they are at the top of the threads already
sticky ..... tricky ......
I know , how about a WIKI ???
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There is an article in the wiki about this very thing.
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Perman...nt_Card-Canada
As has been said you can get travel documents the same day, but prepare yourself for a long wait as they can get very busy.
Double check all your paperwork as you do not want to have to come back.
http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Perman...nt_Card-Canada
As has been said you can get travel documents the same day, but prepare yourself for a long wait as they can get very busy.
Double check all your paperwork as you do not want to have to come back.
#9
Re: Return to Canada without PR's
If going to London is going to cost time and money, then another option would be to buy a return ticket that will never be used then they wont even ask him for his PR card as he just looks like any other Brit visiting Canada.
Canadian affair sell tickets for cheap but they are non-refundable... maybe some other airlines allow refunds?
This was gonna be my plan of action as I am flying to England next week but my card expired. Luckily, my replacement arrived on Monday so I am ok now.
In some cases, such as mine, the return ticket would have been much easier and not much more expensive than going to London to get the visa!
Canadian affair sell tickets for cheap but they are non-refundable... maybe some other airlines allow refunds?
This was gonna be my plan of action as I am flying to England next week but my card expired. Luckily, my replacement arrived on Monday so I am ok now.
In some cases, such as mine, the return ticket would have been much easier and not much more expensive than going to London to get the visa!
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Re: Return to Canada without PR's
Also if you are not close to London you can apply for travel documents by post.
It would probably take only a couple of weeks to come through. I would check on timescales before doing this, but if it was going to be a couple of months before you returned to Canada, then the cost of postage plus the cost of the document itself would be less than buying a return ticket.
But I stress that most people do not have a problem, and if you don't mind taking a risk just turn up at the airport, chances are they will let you fly.
It would probably take only a couple of weeks to come through. I would check on timescales before doing this, but if it was going to be a couple of months before you returned to Canada, then the cost of postage plus the cost of the document itself would be less than buying a return ticket.
But I stress that most people do not have a problem, and if you don't mind taking a risk just turn up at the airport, chances are they will let you fly.
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Also if you are not close to London you can apply for travel documents by post.
It would probably take only a couple of weeks to come through. I would check on timescales before doing this, but if it was going to be a couple of months before you returned to Canada, then the cost of postage plus the cost of the document itself would be less than buying a return ticket.
But I stress that most people do not have a problem, and if you don't mind taking a risk just turn up at the airport, chances are they will let you fly.
It would probably take only a couple of weeks to come through. I would check on timescales before doing this, but if it was going to be a couple of months before you returned to Canada, then the cost of postage plus the cost of the document itself would be less than buying a return ticket.
But I stress that most people do not have a problem, and if you don't mind taking a risk just turn up at the airport, chances are they will let you fly.
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Re: Return to Canada without PR's
Hi all,
Thanks for the replies. I actually did a quick search but never icame across an answer - sorry
Thanks anyway
Thanks for the replies. I actually did a quick search but never icame across an answer - sorry
Thanks anyway
#13
Re: Return to Canada without PR's
I would suggest you read Section 11 from the Port of Entry Manual
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc.../enf04-eng.pdf
This section covers examining permanent residents at ports of entry.
11.2. Verifying permanent resident status
The permanent resident card is the only valid proof of permanent resident status in Canada.
The following documents are satisfactory indicators of permanent residence:
• the original Record of Landing:
• a certified true copy of a Record of Landing document issued by CIC National Headquarters;
• a letter issued by CIC National Headquarters verifying permanent residence;
• a passport duly stamped showing the date on which permanent residence was granted, if the
person was granted permanent resident status before 1973; and
• a Confirmation of Permanent Residence document [IMM 5292B].
11.3. Establishing permanent resident status without documents
BSOs at ports of entry have the discretion to authorize the entry of permanent residents, even in the absence of documentation. If documentary evidence is not available, the BSO at Immigration
Secondary must establish the person’s permanent resident status through questioning and checking the person’s status in FOSS. The status of persons who became permanent residents before 1973 has to be verified by contacting the Query Response Centre at National
Headquarters at: [email protected].
Once a BSO is satisfied that a person is a permanent resident, the examination should be concluded and the person should be allowed to enter Canada without delay.
If I was in your shoes I would printout the front page and the relevant pages and take it with me.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc.../enf04-eng.pdf
This section covers examining permanent residents at ports of entry.
11.2. Verifying permanent resident status
The permanent resident card is the only valid proof of permanent resident status in Canada.
The following documents are satisfactory indicators of permanent residence:
• the original Record of Landing:
• a certified true copy of a Record of Landing document issued by CIC National Headquarters;
• a letter issued by CIC National Headquarters verifying permanent residence;
• a passport duly stamped showing the date on which permanent residence was granted, if the
person was granted permanent resident status before 1973; and
• a Confirmation of Permanent Residence document [IMM 5292B].
11.3. Establishing permanent resident status without documents
BSOs at ports of entry have the discretion to authorize the entry of permanent residents, even in the absence of documentation. If documentary evidence is not available, the BSO at Immigration
Secondary must establish the person’s permanent resident status through questioning and checking the person’s status in FOSS. The status of persons who became permanent residents before 1973 has to be verified by contacting the Query Response Centre at National
Headquarters at: [email protected].
Once a BSO is satisfied that a person is a permanent resident, the examination should be concluded and the person should be allowed to enter Canada without delay.
If I was in your shoes I would printout the front page and the relevant pages and take it with me.
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Re: Return to Canada without PR's
I would suggest you read Section 11 from the Port of Entry Manual
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc.../enf04-eng.pdf
This section covers examining permanent residents at ports of entry.
11.2. Verifying permanent resident status
The permanent resident card is the only valid proof of permanent resident status in Canada.
The following documents are satisfactory indicators of permanent residence:
• the original Record of Landing:
• a certified true copy of a Record of Landing document issued by CIC National Headquarters;
• a letter issued by CIC National Headquarters verifying permanent residence;
• a passport duly stamped showing the date on which permanent residence was granted, if the
person was granted permanent resident status before 1973; and
• a Confirmation of Permanent Residence document [IMM 5292B].
11.3. Establishing permanent resident status without documents
BSOs at ports of entry have the discretion to authorize the entry of permanent residents, even in the absence of documentation. If documentary evidence is not available, the BSO at Immigration
Secondary must establish the person’s permanent resident status through questioning and checking the person’s status in FOSS. The status of persons who became permanent residents before 1973 has to be verified by contacting the Query Response Centre at National
Headquarters at: [email protected].
Once a BSO is satisfied that a person is a permanent resident, the examination should be concluded and the person should be allowed to enter Canada without delay.
If I was in your shoes I would printout the front page and the relevant pages and take it with me.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resourc.../enf04-eng.pdf
This section covers examining permanent residents at ports of entry.
11.2. Verifying permanent resident status
The permanent resident card is the only valid proof of permanent resident status in Canada.
The following documents are satisfactory indicators of permanent residence:
• the original Record of Landing:
• a certified true copy of a Record of Landing document issued by CIC National Headquarters;
• a letter issued by CIC National Headquarters verifying permanent residence;
• a passport duly stamped showing the date on which permanent residence was granted, if the
person was granted permanent resident status before 1973; and
• a Confirmation of Permanent Residence document [IMM 5292B].
11.3. Establishing permanent resident status without documents
BSOs at ports of entry have the discretion to authorize the entry of permanent residents, even in the absence of documentation. If documentary evidence is not available, the BSO at Immigration
Secondary must establish the person’s permanent resident status through questioning and checking the person’s status in FOSS. The status of persons who became permanent residents before 1973 has to be verified by contacting the Query Response Centre at National
Headquarters at: [email protected].
Once a BSO is satisfied that a person is a permanent resident, the examination should be concluded and the person should be allowed to enter Canada without delay.
If I was in your shoes I would printout the front page and the relevant pages and take it with me.
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That is why knowing the rules that the Canadians use can help when it comes to a less informed airline checkin person.....or worst case a Servisair person.
When we took our one-way flight with Canadian Affair/Air Transat from Gatwick we did not get asked anything by the airline. But I do appreicate that some people have been.
When we took our one-way flight with Canadian Affair/Air Transat from Gatwick we did not get asked anything by the airline. But I do appreicate that some people have been.