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Ray51 Oct 25th 2007 12:03 am

Retiring to there ?
 
Hi all ,
whereas I realise most people leave to Canada during their working years , would anyone here , just perchance , know of a useful contact , who could help with emmigration , in order to retire in Ontario , Quebec , or where else there ? ( the retirement : just befor , or just after 60 )

Greenhill Oct 25th 2007 1:44 am

Re: Retiring to there ?
 
I remember a similar post on the immigration forum from a while back, after searching back for it I found the following threads (you may also want to check out the current immigration options):-


http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=462017

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397113


Originally Posted by Ray51 (Post 5466270)
Hi all ,
whereas I realise most people leave to Canada during their working years , would anyone here , just perchance , know of a useful contact , who could help with emmigration , in order to retire in Ontario , Quebec , or where else there ? ( the retirement : just befor , or just after 60 )


Paul Wildy Oct 25th 2007 2:10 am

Re: Retiring to there ?
 

Originally Posted by Ray51 (Post 5466270)
Hi all ,
whereas I realise most people leave to Canada during their working years , would anyone here , just perchance , know of a useful contact , who could help with emmigration , in order to retire in Ontario , Quebec , or where else there ? ( the retirement : just befor , or just after 60 )

There is no retiree category for immigration. Your only option would be if you have a reletive living here already who was willing to sponsor you

iaink Oct 25th 2007 2:24 am

Re: Retiring to there ?
 
There was another thread recently sort of regarding this too.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=487562

I never understood the desire to leave all your friends and family and a well established social network and start afresh in a foreign land not knowing anyone.

At that point in my life I want to have friends and family I can count on around to stop me going a bit nuts...

Paul Wildy Oct 25th 2007 2:30 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 5466749)
There was another thread recently sort of regarding this too.
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=487562

I never understood the desire to leave all your friends and family and a well established social network and start afresh in a foreign land not knowing anyone.

At that point in my life I want to have friends and family I can count on around to stop me going a bit nuts...

I would imagine people considering such a move at that stage of life are driven primarily by economic motivation - i.e. wanting to find somewhere to live with lower property prices so they can release equity to act as a supplementary pension because they dont have adequate pension provision. No doubt that is a viewpoint likely to actract some controversy though!

hot wasabi peas Oct 25th 2007 2:35 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 5466749)
At that point in my life I want to have friends and family I can count on around to stop me going a bit nuts...

Too late. :p

zims500 Oct 25th 2007 4:02 am

Re: Retiring to there ?
 

Originally Posted by NSpaul (Post 5466777)
I would imagine people considering such a move at that stage of life are driven primarily by economic motivation - i.e. wanting to find somewhere to live with lower property prices so they can release equity to act as a supplementary pension because they dont have adequate pension provision. No doubt that is a viewpoint likely to actract some controversy though!

And then may be some of us , who don't like the recent ( demographic , fiscal and other ) developments in the U.K. and E.U. , so : to them , Canada might still appear an interesting consideration , the latest strength of Can$ notwithstanding .
And , YES , there are people out there , in that age of life , without much family and friends left - but who can afford to pay their way , to a certain decent extent ...so ?
Why not then retire in english-speaking , 1st world , relatively crime-free Canada , rather than in Spain , Oz , Cape Town , Cyprus , Malta , Istria or wherever else ???

iaink Oct 25th 2007 4:29 am

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Originally Posted by zims500 (Post 5467262)
Why not then retire in english-speaking , 1st world , relatively crime-free Canada , rather than in Spain , Oz , Cape Town , Cyprus , Malta , Istria or wherever else ???

Off the top of my head....because its 3500 miles / $800 flight from family, doesnt cover drug costs, will result in your pension being frozen, costs a lot more to live here than you would think possible based on visiting, and is mostly cold and snowy for three or more months of the year. Other stuff you might find diverting like soccer, cricket, rugby etc doesnt hardly register here on the radar thats full of hockey, US/CDN football and baseball.

And perhaps most importantly, unless you have a relative here already who can and will sponsor you, your chances of being granted a residence visa are slim to none.

FWIW many Canadians try and spend as much of their retirement as possible as "Snowbirds" in warmer US climates, and live in Canada only long enough to maintain their health care entitlement.

Paul Wildy Oct 25th 2007 5:11 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 5467370)
Off the top of my head....because its 3500 miles / $800 flight from family, doesnt cover drug costs, will result in your pension being frozen, costs a lot more to live here than you would think possible based on visiting, and is mostly cold and snowy for three or more months of the year.

And perhaps most importantly, unless you have a relative here already who can and will sponsor you, your chances of being granted a residence visa are slim to none.

Yes, simply learning to speak Maltese and moving to Malta would seem to be a much easier option than getting into and living in Canada as a retiree.

Judy in Calgary Oct 25th 2007 5:21 am

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Originally Posted by zims500
And then may be some of us , who don't like the recent ( demographic , fiscal and other ) developments in the U.K. and E.U. , so : to them , Canada might still appear an interesting consideration , the latest strength of Can$ notwithstanding .
And , YES , there are people out there , in that age of life , without much family and friends left - but who can afford to pay their way , to a certain decent extent ...so ?
Why not then retire in english-speaking , 1st world , relatively crime-free Canada , rather than in Spain , Oz , Cape Town , Cyprus , Malta , Istria or wherever else ???

I have nothing against the idea conceptually. The challenge, as others have pointed out, is that Canada no longer offers a retirement visa.

Ray51 Oct 25th 2007 9:12 am

Re: Retiring to there ?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 5467370)
Off the top of my head....because its 3500 miles / $800 flight from family, doesnt cover drug costs, will result in your pension being frozen, costs a lot more to live here than you would think possible based on visiting, and is mostly cold and snowy for three or more months of the year. Other stuff you might find diverting like soccer, cricket, rugby etc doesnt hardly register here on the radar thats full of hockey, US/CDN football and baseball.

And perhaps most importantly, unless you have a relative here already who can and will sponsor you, your chances of being granted a residence visa are slim to none.

FWIW many Canadians try and spend as much of their retirement as possible as "Snowbirds" in warmer US climates, and live in Canada only long enough to maintain their health care entitlement.

To "iaink" and all : Thank you !

a ) After 4 visits in the last 10 years ,
the part( I quote verbatim ) about " costs a lot more to live here than you would think possible ..." interests me most of all - would anyone care to add to this ?
b ) O.K. if not officially retiring , how about a really , really , really small business interest , then ? Any ideas ?

bazzz Oct 25th 2007 9:14 am

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Originally Posted by Ray51 (Post 5468466)
b ) O.K. if not officially retiring , how about a really , really , really small business interest , then ? Any ideas ?

Which immigration route do you think this would fall under?

Ray51 Oct 25th 2007 9:17 am

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Nil idea ! Was hoping for a bright spark , or 7 of them !

bazzz Oct 25th 2007 9:26 am

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You should probably start here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp

Ray51 Oct 25th 2007 9:32 am

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Thanxxxx! ( Got it ! )
Hasn't changed all that much , in last 20 years ;
must remark : Oz have been v. v. much more welcoming and accommodating , to us , Brits elder settlers ...however : "different stroke" , and all that jazz ???


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