Renting house to housing association or council
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Renting house to housing association or council
Has anyone done this? Do I just contact them and offer the house to them? I've seen it mentioned a number of times but have no idea how to go about arranging it.
If you can point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful.
Edited to say I have a list of housing associations, just googled it but wondered if there was an easy way of moving this forward.
If you can point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful.
Edited to say I have a list of housing associations, just googled it but wondered if there was an easy way of moving this forward.
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Re: Renting house to housing association or council
Has anyone done this? Do I just contact them and offer the house to them? I've seen it mentioned a number of times but have no idea how to go about arranging it.
If you can point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful.
Edited to say I have a list of housing associations, just googled it but wondered if there was an easy way of moving this forward.
If you can point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful.
Edited to say I have a list of housing associations, just googled it but wondered if there was an easy way of moving this forward.
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Re: Renting house to housing association or council
Has anyone done this? Do I just contact them and offer the house to them? I've seen it mentioned a number of times but have no idea how to go about arranging it.
If you can point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful.
Edited to say I have a list of housing associations, just googled it but wondered if there was an easy way of moving this forward.
If you can point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful.
Edited to say I have a list of housing associations, just googled it but wondered if there was an easy way of moving this forward.
I think you just enquire with them and see if they are taking any on at the moment. The bad thing about it is you have no say on who lives in your home! I have lived next door to a house that is rented out by the council and there has been some dodgy people in there who have not kept the property tidy at all. However, you are guaranteed the rent every month.
From your other posts i know how desperate you are so if it is a way for you to get to Canada, then i would do it.
Good Luck.
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Ok guys this the answer that you are all looking for. Social affordable housing across the UK is in short supply, and given the economic situation demand for social housing is going to get worse.
Local authorities across the country offer landlord rent guarantee schemes. Basically they will house a family who is homeless or severely overcrowded in your property. They will basically give you 6 months rent upfront as a sweetener.
Bare in mind you cannot choose who lives in your property, and they could be the family from hell! If you are friends with your neighbours you have to be prepared that you may loose their friendship.
Some local authorities will do agree to do the repairs, also depending on how long you agree for it to be rented.
Be prepared for your house that you know as home, to be given back trashed as not everyone looks after a home. But then you may be lucky and get someone who does not want to be on a purpose built estate, and they treat it like a palace.
Depending on where you live will depend who deals with the local authority statutory duty of housing families that they have a statutory duty assist.
In some places it is the local authority, and in others housing associations do it on behalf of the local authority. On a contractual basis.
All local authorities have a local housing allowance cap that they will pay for a property, depending on the size of there units.
You need to check out your local authority website as they will have a maximum amount they will pay based on the size of the property. For example they may pay £120 per week. It is important that you only charge up to the local housing allowance, as you it is unlikely that your tenants would make up any shortfall. It all depends on your mortgage commitment and whether you can afford to pay the difference of what you will get from Housing benefit.
Ironically I have been to a meeting today, and this is an option that local authorities will be using more and more because there is a lack of stock amongst social housing providers in the UK.
Local authorities across the country offer landlord rent guarantee schemes. Basically they will house a family who is homeless or severely overcrowded in your property. They will basically give you 6 months rent upfront as a sweetener.
Bare in mind you cannot choose who lives in your property, and they could be the family from hell! If you are friends with your neighbours you have to be prepared that you may loose their friendship.
Some local authorities will do agree to do the repairs, also depending on how long you agree for it to be rented.
Be prepared for your house that you know as home, to be given back trashed as not everyone looks after a home. But then you may be lucky and get someone who does not want to be on a purpose built estate, and they treat it like a palace.
Depending on where you live will depend who deals with the local authority statutory duty of housing families that they have a statutory duty assist.
In some places it is the local authority, and in others housing associations do it on behalf of the local authority. On a contractual basis.
All local authorities have a local housing allowance cap that they will pay for a property, depending on the size of there units.
You need to check out your local authority website as they will have a maximum amount they will pay based on the size of the property. For example they may pay £120 per week. It is important that you only charge up to the local housing allowance, as you it is unlikely that your tenants would make up any shortfall. It all depends on your mortgage commitment and whether you can afford to pay the difference of what you will get from Housing benefit.
Ironically I have been to a meeting today, and this is an option that local authorities will be using more and more because there is a lack of stock amongst social housing providers in the UK.
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Re: Renting house to housing association or council
WE rent our house in the UK and we would have problems doing this as:
1. the mortage provider has to approve tenants and does minor league vetting , eg credit check. This wouldn't work for such tenants. So they would refuse permission.
2. we would find it difficult to get decent insurance
3. we have rent guarentee insurance should our carefully vetted tenants (by our letting agent) somehow turn bad. We are only sold this as the tenants are lowish risk
4. I suspect these sorts of tenants want furnished which brings another set of problems, you are then liable for council tax for months it is empty (as I understand it!)
I would have to be more than desparate to take this option as tenants generally have a lot of potential to do damage.
Gryph
1. the mortage provider has to approve tenants and does minor league vetting , eg credit check. This wouldn't work for such tenants. So they would refuse permission.
2. we would find it difficult to get decent insurance
3. we have rent guarentee insurance should our carefully vetted tenants (by our letting agent) somehow turn bad. We are only sold this as the tenants are lowish risk
4. I suspect these sorts of tenants want furnished which brings another set of problems, you are then liable for council tax for months it is empty (as I understand it!)
I would have to be more than desparate to take this option as tenants generally have a lot of potential to do damage.
Gryph
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Re: Renting house to housing association or council
I think you just enquire with them and see if they are taking any on at the moment. The bad thing about it is you have no say on who lives in your home! I have lived next door to a house that is rented out by the council and there has been some dodgy people in there who have not kept the property tidy at all. However, you are guaranteed the rent every month.
From your other posts i know how desperate you are so if it is a way for you to get to Canada, then i would do it.
Good Luck.
From your other posts i know how desperate you are so if it is a way for you to get to Canada, then i would do it.
Good Luck.
Thank you. The reason we are thinking of doing it this way is the guaranteed rental each month. We would be at serious risk of losing the house if we cannot get it rented out or have to find rent for Canada and pay the mortgage on the UK property. This way we could review the situation in 12 months knowing we had a contract with the council/housing association.
Still hoping to sell (obviously), there has been (touch wood) a huge improvement over the past week or so in the anti social issues as the police are making a concerted effort to crack down now and I've only had to call them out once since new years eve.
Thanks for your reply.
Ok guys this the answer that you are all looking for. Social affordable housing across the UK is in short supply, and given the economic situation demand for social housing is going to get worse.
Local authorities across the country offer landlord rent guarantee schemes. Basically they will house a family who is homeless or severely overcrowded in your property. They will basically give you 6 months rent upfront as a sweetener.
Bare in mind you cannot choose who lives in your property, and they could be the family from hell! If you are friends with your neighbours you have to be prepared that you may loose their friendship.
Some local authorities will do agree to do the repairs, also depending on how long you agree for it to be rented.
Be prepared for your house that you know as home, to be given back trashed as not everyone looks after a home. But then you may be lucky and get someone who does not want to be on a purpose built estate, and they treat it like a palace.
Depending on where you live will depend who deals with the local authority statutory duty of housing families that they have a statutory duty assist.
In some places it is the local authority, and in others housing associations do it on behalf of the local authority. On a contractual basis.
All local authorities have a local housing allowance cap that they will pay for a property, depending on the size of there units.
You need to check out your local authority website as they will have a maximum amount they will pay based on the size of the property. For example they may pay £120 per week. It is important that you only charge up to the local housing allowance, as you it is unlikely that your tenants would make up any shortfall. It all depends on your mortgage commitment and whether you can afford to pay the difference of what you will get from Housing benefit.
Ironically I have been to a meeting today, and this is an option that local authorities will be using more and more because there is a lack of stock amongst social housing providers in the UK.
Local authorities across the country offer landlord rent guarantee schemes. Basically they will house a family who is homeless or severely overcrowded in your property. They will basically give you 6 months rent upfront as a sweetener.
Bare in mind you cannot choose who lives in your property, and they could be the family from hell! If you are friends with your neighbours you have to be prepared that you may loose their friendship.
Some local authorities will do agree to do the repairs, also depending on how long you agree for it to be rented.
Be prepared for your house that you know as home, to be given back trashed as not everyone looks after a home. But then you may be lucky and get someone who does not want to be on a purpose built estate, and they treat it like a palace.
Depending on where you live will depend who deals with the local authority statutory duty of housing families that they have a statutory duty assist.
In some places it is the local authority, and in others housing associations do it on behalf of the local authority. On a contractual basis.
All local authorities have a local housing allowance cap that they will pay for a property, depending on the size of there units.
You need to check out your local authority website as they will have a maximum amount they will pay based on the size of the property. For example they may pay £120 per week. It is important that you only charge up to the local housing allowance, as you it is unlikely that your tenants would make up any shortfall. It all depends on your mortgage commitment and whether you can afford to pay the difference of what you will get from Housing benefit.
Ironically I have been to a meeting today, and this is an option that local authorities will be using more and more because there is a lack of stock amongst social housing providers in the UK.
I will find out as much as I can on the rentals. Basically as the house is a new build, we will leave nothing in there and will redecorate as we need to at the end of each tennancy.
My father used to have properties and it made no difference whether private or council rented, the house 99% of the time was handed back in a terrible state.
Thanks again for such a great answer this is most helpful.
WE rent our house in the UK and we would have problems doing this as:
1. the mortage provider has to approve tenants and does minor league vetting , eg credit check. This wouldn't work for such tenants. So they would refuse permission.
We have a mortgage advisor coming down to speak to us about swapping to a landlord/tenant type mortgage, we weren't sure if we would be able to as our mortgage is currently more than we could achieve in rentals - although we are looking at extending the length of the term as well. The mortgage advisor hopefully will be coming this month.
2. we would find it difficult to get decent insurance
Thank you, again this is something we will look at.
3. we have rent guarentee insurance should our carefully vetted tenants (by our letting agent) somehow turn bad. We are only sold this as the tenants are lowish risk
We have been speaking to various letting agents but there is an abundance of rental properties in our area, many of them standing open and this is a very expensive option, coupled with the fact our mortgage is more than we could get for rent.
4. I suspect these sorts of tenants want furnished which brings another set of problems, you are then liable for council tax for months it is empty (as I understand it!)
I have some old furniture to throw in, there are several things we aren't taking such as dining room furniture that we would have ended up freecycling so this isn't a huge problem.
I would have to be more than desparate to take this option as tenants generally have a lot of potential to do damage.
Gryph
1. the mortage provider has to approve tenants and does minor league vetting , eg credit check. This wouldn't work for such tenants. So they would refuse permission.
We have a mortgage advisor coming down to speak to us about swapping to a landlord/tenant type mortgage, we weren't sure if we would be able to as our mortgage is currently more than we could achieve in rentals - although we are looking at extending the length of the term as well. The mortgage advisor hopefully will be coming this month.
2. we would find it difficult to get decent insurance
Thank you, again this is something we will look at.
3. we have rent guarentee insurance should our carefully vetted tenants (by our letting agent) somehow turn bad. We are only sold this as the tenants are lowish risk
We have been speaking to various letting agents but there is an abundance of rental properties in our area, many of them standing open and this is a very expensive option, coupled with the fact our mortgage is more than we could get for rent.
4. I suspect these sorts of tenants want furnished which brings another set of problems, you are then liable for council tax for months it is empty (as I understand it!)
I have some old furniture to throw in, there are several things we aren't taking such as dining room furniture that we would have ended up freecycling so this isn't a huge problem.
I would have to be more than desparate to take this option as tenants generally have a lot of potential to do damage.
Gryph
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Re: Renting house to housing association or council
Damn and blast, our local council only offer their own "stock" of housing, no others.
So there goes that one.
So there goes that one.
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Re: Renting house to housing association or council
http://www.orchard-shipman.com/
These guys take the lease and then sub-let to social tenants with a repair clause to put back into good order, guaranteed rent, etc.
I'm surprised you say 99% of the time, properties were handed back in poor condition. I'm a firm believer in that if the property is offered in good order, repairs done promptly and the tenants treated like customers, then you get the house back in a reasonable state.
Doesn't always work and requires a good agent but with the private rental sector being larger now and not housing of last resort, things are different to a few years ago when things were different with the legislation.
These guys take the lease and then sub-let to social tenants with a repair clause to put back into good order, guaranteed rent, etc.
I'm surprised you say 99% of the time, properties were handed back in poor condition. I'm a firm believer in that if the property is offered in good order, repairs done promptly and the tenants treated like customers, then you get the house back in a reasonable state.
Doesn't always work and requires a good agent but with the private rental sector being larger now and not housing of last resort, things are different to a few years ago when things were different with the legislation.
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The info that I gave you guys was hot off the press. It not had a chance to cascade down to local authority staff yet. Basically senior managers across the social housing sector with statutory duty are to be tasked with obtain a good pool of private landlord stock, as it is predicted that the affordable housing situation is set to become chronic. Tiny Tears you local authority may have said no today for a number of reasons. Lack of awareness of the new scheme, because they still have a long way to get rid of there stock, and will try and shift their bad/poor stock first. I can assure withing six months withing 6 months this scheme will be in operation nationwide in areas where there is a shortage of family housing.
Lenders at this time are being flexible and will become more flexible about you renting and will consider waivering the fees in the next 12 months, some money is better than none. Banks want the money coming in. The banks are playing hard ball at the minute, but they will have to play ball soon! Just you watch and see!
Lenders at this time are being flexible and will become more flexible about you renting and will consider waivering the fees in the next 12 months, some money is better than none. Banks want the money coming in. The banks are playing hard ball at the minute, but they will have to play ball soon! Just you watch and see!
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Re: Renting house to housing association or council
The info that I gave you guys was hot off the press. It not had a chance to cascade down to local authority staff yet. Basically senior managers across the social housing sector with statutory duty are to be tasked with obtain a good pool of private landlord stock, as it is predicted that the affordable housing situation is set to become chronic. Tiny Tears you local authority may have said no today for a number of reasons. Lack of awareness of the new scheme, because they still have a long way to get rid of there stock, and will try and shift their bad/poor stock first. I can assure withing six months withing 6 months this scheme will be in operation nationwide in areas where there is a shortage of family housing.
Lenders at this time are being flexible and will become more flexible about you renting and will consider waivering the fees in the next 12 months, some money is better than none. Banks want the money coming in. The banks are playing hard ball at the minute, but they will have to play ball soon! Just you watch and see!
Lenders at this time are being flexible and will become more flexible about you renting and will consider waivering the fees in the next 12 months, some money is better than none. Banks want the money coming in. The banks are playing hard ball at the minute, but they will have to play ball soon! Just you watch and see!
Thanks.