Remortgaging in UK to get Deposit in Canada
#16
Re: Remortgaging in UK to get Deposit in Canada
Who? I don't think there are a lot of posters here who have never been short of funds and there are certainly a good number of posters who are in a financially precarious position now. I'd go as far as to say that, for a board aimed at educated financially aspirational people, the posters in Canada must be rather a disappointment to the management. Perhaps 10% could be considered well off, I'd guess that's not much different from the proportion among the general population of the UK.
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Re: Remortgaging in UK to get Deposit in Canada
I think the point being made was the house would sell if priced low enough.
Bit of a moot point if you're dealing with a bank mortgage and they have a veto on the sale of your house for less than the value of the mortgage.
But in theory yes you can always sell a house it just depends on whether you wish to be saddled with the debt left afterwards or in the case of cash buyers take the hit.
Lot of not poor people on here who will find the whole concept of not having enough ready cash to absorb losses like this a bizarre concept.
John
Bit of a moot point if you're dealing with a bank mortgage and they have a veto on the sale of your house for less than the value of the mortgage.
But in theory yes you can always sell a house it just depends on whether you wish to be saddled with the debt left afterwards or in the case of cash buyers take the hit.
Lot of not poor people on here who will find the whole concept of not having enough ready cash to absorb losses like this a bizarre concept.
John
Our circumstances are nothing like you describe. We are not stupid. We know we will get all our equity back (which is substantial) from that house when the market picks up. If its 10 years so be it. We are patient. Lots of people that bought around 2007 will be in this boat.
We were lucky enough that our move to Canada did not depend on a sale of a house.
Sometimes it's a case of not wanting to absorb losses and holding out.
I've said enough - not getting into this anymore. I don't usually get into arguements on here but when people flippantly say something to me when they don't know me - gets my goat.
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Re: Remortgaging in UK to get Deposit in Canada
Who? I don't think there are a lot of posters here who have never been short of funds and there are certainly a good number of posters who are in a financially precarious position now. I'd go as far as to say that, for a board aimed at educated financially aspirational people, the posters in Canada must be rather a disappointment to the management. Perhaps 10% could be considered well off, I'd guess that's not much different from the proportion among the general population of the UK.
The original comment were
No such thing as "couldn't sell" - perhaps you couldn't sell at the price you wanted, not the same thing.
6 months isn't all that long really, is it? You obviously purchased at a time when prices were higher. It doesn't mean it's unsaleable now, just that you weren't willing/able to take a hit due to bad market timing, so JAJ's comment is fair.
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Re: Remortgaging in UK to get Deposit in Canada
I didn't phrase that well. Of the people on here who are not poor (not saying thats a large percentage of the total BE membership) those people will struggle with the concept of not being able to sell a house and take a hit.
The original comment were
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Both of those comments did not appear to make an allowance for a constrained financial situation.
The original comment were
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Both of those comments did not appear to make an allowance for a constrained financial situation.
#21
Re: Remortgaging in UK to get Deposit in Canada
Fingers crossed the UK market picks up soon and all of us who are trying to sell will start getting interest
#22
Re: Remortgaging in UK to get Deposit in Canada
We are also in the same position, our house has been on the market since October 2012 and we have reduced it greatly, to the point where we have accepted that we will be taking a loss when it eventually sells. It's pretty depressing and flippant comments from others who know nothing about your personal circumstances really don't help!
Fingers crossed the UK market picks up soon and all of us who are trying to sell will start getting interest
Fingers crossed the UK market picks up soon and all of us who are trying to sell will start getting interest
Best of luck to you, and to anybody else selling. I hope the property fairydust works its way to you soon!
#23
Re: Remortgaging in UK to get Deposit in Canada
We are also in the same position, our house has been on the market since October 2012 and we have reduced it greatly, to the point where we have accepted that we will be taking a loss when it eventually sells. It's pretty depressing and flippant comments from others who know nothing about your personal circumstances really don't help!
Fingers crossed the UK market picks up soon and all of us who are trying to sell will start getting interest
Fingers crossed the UK market picks up soon and all of us who are trying to sell will start getting interest
I accept there may be reasons why a vendor would not want to sell below a certain price, but that does not affect the value of the property.
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Personal circumstances have nothing to do with it. If anything isn't selling, whether it is a vehicle, house or piece of furniture, it is because potential buyers believe it is incorrectly priced. A piece of property is only "worth" what someone is willing to pay for it.
I accept there may be reasons why a vendor would not want to sell below a certain price, but that does not affect the value of the property.
I accept there may be reasons why a vendor would not want to sell below a certain price, but that does not affect the value of the property.
This is meant to be a useful forum but I am finding it more and more just a breeding ground for people to anonymously start fight's for no apparent reason!
#25
Re: Remortgaging in UK to get Deposit in Canada
The value to you, not necessarily the market value; that's plainly less. It's because of the yo-yo nature of the market for houses in remote parts of the UK that I think it imprudent for the OP to count on an investment in one.
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Re: Remortgaging in UK to get Deposit in Canada
Thanks for the responses. My rental property is in London and in a great school area. I've never had a problem renting it out and the rent more than covers the mortgage.
But due to the responses, we're now talking about selling it and possibly buying 2 properties here. There just seems to be so many condos being built in Toronto that we're hesitant to buy a rental place here.
But due to the responses, we're now talking about selling it and possibly buying 2 properties here. There just seems to be so many condos being built in Toronto that we're hesitant to buy a rental place here.
#27
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Interesting that none of the comments regards the pricing being incorrect take into account the ability to raise finance of potential buyers? The mortgage market until recently has been extremely tough for people across the spectrum of potential homeowners to get a mortgage approval, or an approval at a level which allows them to buy. Also consider that the price a property is marketed for is heavily influenced by a surveyor or estate agent opinion, not just a pie in the sky figure the seller dreams up, so a 200k valued house might be marketed at 50% open market value but unless potential buyers can come up with a good deposit and get a mortgage approval, it ain't gonna shift. Its all well and good talking about the danger of house price bubbles, the market correcting itself etc etc but this overlooks the fact that there are thousands of people stuck in the same situation as has been outlined - for some its more of a problem that for those that can sit it out, but it amazes me that people who got caught in the first recession garner sympathy for experiences of negative equity, repossession etc, when those that bought around 2007 or were affected by the downturn seem to just attract sanctimonious 'opinion' from those that think they know better. These are people, not economists.