dbd33

I lived in the city when the kids were of an age that it mattered. It seemed to me, and still does, that if you're 15, or older and Daddy hasn't bought you a car, transit is vital. If you live in the city, the kids go off after school to do whatever it is the youth of today does. If you live in the suburbs you have to drive them everywhere, that's more hassle and less good for them developing independence.

I did live in the wilds for about three years up until last October, I don't claim Guelph to be that. Rather, this is an urban way of being; we walk to work, to the pub, to the shops, to the restaurants. There's less choice than in the Beach but it's definitely urban. The downside, compared with the wilds, is that one cannot reasonably keep horses, or even chickens, at home.

dollface

I don't mind driving them until they have cars - we won't always live in Oakville either. The beach was an option for us but just too far for OH's work. I like the beach area, feels more like a wee bit of London than Canada.

dbd33

It is something of an ethnic ghetto, English and Irish (and Al, who's from Scotland and has a lot of guns). Good for dogs, bad for transit.

dollface

Yep just like London though I haven't met AL!

really good for dogs, GTA could do with more of that type of area.

Souvy

You are describing Oakville, right?

dollface

Course he is! except only on the high st do they put bowls of water out for the dogs and Al's guns only blaze on Kerr.

dbd33

Ha! No, the Beach. Bad for transit in the sense that it's served by trams, which are cute but slow, or by a bus to the subway, not bad in the sense of having one train an hour. Good for dogs in the sense that everyone has a dog and the dog bylaws are widely ignored, especially in winter.

dbd33

There are bowls of water for dogs all along Queen St. Many of them sponsored by dogtiques of one kind or another. Affectation is something residents of Oakville and the Beach both tend to.

HGerchikov

I have to ask this as you seem to hate every place that is ever mentioned on this site - do you actually like Guelph?

dollface

Ooh hark at you. Would be true to say that falseness exists the world over and not just on Oakville or the Beach.

dollface

Tis true, he does...........except Camden.

dbd33

I like Toronto, say as far west as Bathurst. I like Guelph, say as far south as the university. I don't like the nasty housing projects tacked on the sides.

dbd33

Oh sure, but those areas approach Islington levels of being up themselves.

dbd33

And Ouray. I've no quarrel with Ouray.

dollface

Why do you feel that way? there are tons of regular, good, nice people in Oakville that are not "up themselves"