He probably means that school boards in the UK and Canada have started to replace the word Christmas and use the term Holiday period. Its no longer a Christmas tree but a holiday or festive tree.
Wait until the next World Cup and many councils will be telling council staff not to fly English flags (St Georges Cross) on council vehicles.
The UK press made a big deal of it at the last World Cup though councils stated that it was a health and safety issue as opposed to stating that they feared a backlash from the Muslim community who see the St Georges Cross as a racist symbol and issue.
http://swns.com/builders-banned-from...ms-111107.html
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonli..._the_flag.aspx
It was even mentioned on BE
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=669395

People are always commenting on how behind the UK we are well I hope that Canada is ahead of the UK on this issue.

Did you read the link before commenting?

How would Shariah law apply in Ontario?
First, it's not clear the term "Shariah law" would even be used. Several groups that appeared before Boyd's process of reviewing the Arbitration Act say it's not Shariah law they want to set up but a Muslim Personal/Family Law process which has its roots in Shariah.

The arbitration process as set out in the Arbitration Act is voluntary. Most of the concerns about the creation of "Shariah" tribunals have focused on the fear that Muslim women may feel they are being forced into taking part in a process of binding arbitration according to Muslim family law instead of resolving their disputes through the court system.

In her report, former Ontario attorney general Marion Boyd stressed that any faith-based system would have to conform to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

It is being discussed and I think you will find has been implemented though they dont call it Shariah Law

The Arbitration Act should continue to allow disputes to be arbitrated using religious law, if the safeguards currently prescribed and recommended by this review are observed.

So you embrace the Canadian way of saying happy holidays instead of happy Christmas? Yet are outraged when it's done in the UK?

So other than a building site manager not wanting flags on site, and a few cabbies not allowed due to H&S and recognition reasons, there hasn't really been any bans of significance has there.

The hyperbole around this topic in the british media is laughable, and very disturbing that people believe it.

No there hasnt but it was the perception that was portrayed by the UK media about banning flags that riled up certain segments. Of course The Sun ran their campaigns in support of flying the flag and lets face it some who read that paper are a sandwich short of a picnic in the brain department. Add in the alcohol on a Friday/Saturday night and its a recipie for trouble.

At least it's good business for media and flag sales, and gives the believers something to talk about

Not at all,I./we as in the local population make a point of wishing everybody a Merry Christmas,because come Dec25th it is actually Christmas Day.
Come the time when I have to wish people "happy holiday"or "happy winter festival"then I'll know it's time to hang up the gloves,until that day arrives I fully believe that when immigrating and enjoying the hospitality of a foreign country you should abide by their values,not try to change them to suit your own.
Britain is a broken society for failing to adhere to moral principals,the Aussies had it right when they said anyone was welcome to go and live there but only to live the Aussie way,not trying to indoctrinate society with other cultures/beliefs/values,the same should be happening here before this country turns to rat shit but the PC movement are already on the move while the apathetic Canadians et al don't want to worry about it.
Western Canada is a great place to live,freedom meets no bounds in many ways but when ,because it's only a matter of time,this place becomes overrun with Koran dedicated idiots the population says "this has to stop"it'll be far too late.
By way of consolation,they hate the Christian society far more than any fury could be bestowed upon them,read this post in 5 yrs time and you'll wished you'd acted sooner.

And yet you regularly refer to and quote it.....

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...37#post9990837
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...25#post9989225

etc.

Strange, my Canadian colleagues wished happy holidays as did a few clients and other companies. I had it regularly when out shopping too and also noticed it on tv. My wife's company requested employees say holidays instead of Christmas.

I guess Vancouver could be different from wherever you are though.

I say happy Christmas btw but don't really care what people decide to use.

I would imagine the number of Canadian residents who are fanatical Muslims wanting huge changes is negligible in the larger scheme of things and will remain so at least in my lifetime.

Don't believe everything you read in the media. It's not good for you.

If he says so then I shall ask for citations of "holiday tree" and eventually it'll come down to one nutcase parish counciller. I'll find umpteen references to Christmas trees in the MSM.



I think the St. George's flag is that of the National Front. As a kid I never saw it, it only became popular with the rise of neo-Nazi organisations, and so I think it's a racist symbol. I don't know that I'd ban it but it's the equivalent of the Confederate flag here.

Yes. The article explains that religious arbitration was being considered as a means to resolve some domestic disputes in 2005. If such negotiations took place, that would not imply application of "Shariah Law" even in those instances. Note that any opinion reached in such negotiation could not breach Ontario law.

Got anything about chopping off hands in Ontario in 2012?

No I havent
I was merely pointing out that Shariah Law was being discussed and if some of the recommendations made in 2005 were adopted then it would not be called Shariah Law but there would be times if both parties agreed to and did not violate the Charter decisions made due to the Muslim religious beliefs and practices regarding divorce and seperation laws.
Do the laws in Canada already in place not cover this?
If you notice the ones opposing this are mainly womens groups and advocates who feel this amendment favours Muslim men re any compensation amounts awarded.
Of course these changes are all religion based and not racism but some segments of society dont see it that way and its that perception that leads to them saying we are bowing down to minorities.
I dont know if where you live has a large native presence but when they started to introduce seperate provisions in the Criminal Code regarding natives charged with criminal offences then some saw that as favourable treatment as opposed to being dealt with by the courts.

So you have to resort to looking through old threads to have a pop at me because you dont always agree with things I post.
Some might consider that childish as well
Carry on Ive got thick skin.

It became popular and rightly so with the re-emergence of the England football team into English culture....ask most particularly English people to name things associated with the St George's flag and i bet football would come much further up the list than neo-Nazi organisations. BTW the National Front have always been linked to the Union Jack

Of course dbd33 has to post the odd statement or reply to wind up posters,
create discussion or put his view forward as this is a forum.
Obviously not everyone will agree with him but he is entitled to his views and opinions be they right or wrong.

Some interesting facts on the St Georges Cross if any body actually cares.
And yes certain segments of the Muslim faith do indeed see the flag as a racist symbol as it was flown during the Crusades period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_George's_Cross
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_England

At the end of the day its a flag to some and a symbol of heritage to others.