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R I C H Jan 25th 2014 3:37 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 11096242)

I brought my hammers from the UK and they worked fine on Canadian nails, even though they were thicker then UK ones.

I think you mean less brite. :)

Aviator Jan 25th 2014 4:17 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 11096263)
I think you mean less brite. :)

You could be right, they were pretty dull :)

bats Jan 25th 2014 11:00 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 
Other half says no, his pipe cutters do not work here. Rothenberger is not sold here.

That's all.

caretaker Jan 25th 2014 11:18 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 11096242)
They do http://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-t...rdless/2471-22
Pipe cutters and bender are adjustable, so cannot figure out the problem. If the pipe wall is thicker, it just takes a bit longer and a few more turns to cut the pipe, whether you were using a manual or electric tool.

Was talking about your silly plugs, but I think I understand now. We designate our pipe by inside dia, and because our pipe is thicker the channels of the bender are all a touch too narrow for the same size. Doesn't matter, plumbers make stupid money, buy new tools and welcome to Canada!

Claren Jan 25th 2014 12:48 pm

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11096771)
Was talking about your silly plugs, but I think I understand now. We designate our pipe by inside dia, and because our pipe is thicker the channels of the bender are all a touch too narrow for the same size. Doesn't matter, plumbers make stupid money, buy new tools and welcome to Canada!

Uk pipe size is metric, 15mm and 22mm, Canadian pipe is imperial 1/2 inch and 3/4 inch. pipe benders or pipe slice will not work,adjustable pipe cutters do work. most of the soldering done here is done using MAP gas, a new(decent) blow torch head cost 60 bucks. Majority of pipework is now done in PEX, not copper, what is done tends to be short length boiler work using elbows. Pex crimpers are $100 each and are a necessity.

Novocastrian Jan 25th 2014 1:44 pm

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by Claren (Post 11096879)
Uk pipe size is metric, 15mm and 22mm, Canadian pipe is imperial 1/2 inch and 3/4 inch. pipe benders or pipe slice will not work,adjustable pipe cutters do work. most of the soldering done here is done using MAP gas, a new(decent) blow torch head cost 60 bucks. Majority of pipework is now done in PEX, not copper, what is done tends to be short length boiler work using elbows. Pex crimpers are $100 each and are a necessity.

dbd33 will be devastated. He can never go home again.

caretaker Jan 25th 2014 5:45 pm

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by Claren (Post 11096879)
Uk pipe size is metric, 15mm and 22mm, Canadian pipe is imperial 1/2 inch and 3/4 inch. pipe benders or pipe slice will not work,adjustable pipe cutters do work. most of the soldering done here is done using MAP gas, a new(decent) blow torch head cost 60 bucks. Majority of pipework is now done in PEX, not copper, what is done tends to be short length boiler work using elbows. Pex crimpers are $100 each and are a necessity.

There it is - metric. I use MAPP gas for plumbing at work (our building has no PEX) and the same torch for propane works on the little 1 lb bottles but I can see where a different torch might be necessary for the 10 lb refillable tanks I've seen plumbers use. Soldering pipe is easier and faster with the hotter MAPP and worth paying a bit more. Specialty tools always cost a lot (plumbing isn't unique) but if you use them every day to make big money it's not wasted. Just for my job as caretaker/maintenance man I probably have 6 or 7 thou in tools and it only pays half what the building trades do. Tools for installing floor covering cost a fortune too and that's all piece work so you have to be good and fast to make decent money.

george82 Jan 25th 2014 8:14 pm

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 
i purchased a blow torch last year when i went over to new york to fit my brothers oil tank (was cheeper to fly me over then get a local company) when i brought it home i didn't know if it would fit, but it does fit the throw away bottles so you show be all good. pipe slices no use at all

MrHyperPants Jan 26th 2014 8:55 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 
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Originally Posted by J-A-UK (Post 11095630)
Sorry - definitely cant see that one, but I guess must you know

Reno'd 10 properties in UK, construction, electrics, plumbing, roofing the works and done 2 here in Canada - I've not really found too much difference in reality. I would have no hesitation in saying chance the cutters and pipe bender above any other tool.

Where did you find the info to say that copper piping is different?

Other than imperial sizing (makes no difference to uk metric tools)

Not arguing - just interested.

Sorry should of explained myself better. I wasn't talking about adjustable pipe cutters.

I meant pipe cutters that are made specifically for each size pipe. 1/2", 3/4", 1" UK ones won't fit on Canadian copper pipe.

MrHyperPants Jan 26th 2014 9:05 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by Shirtback (Post 11096165)
Studiously ignoring the innuendos on the pipe tools part of the questions, although having a good giggle :-), I highly doubt it.

Having wasted far too much time trying to adapt Euro tools/appliances/you-name-it, my-ex-tried-it, to Canadian norms, I'd advise that even if one "can", one may then encounter compliance with Norms issues ..

(+1 on the cutting tool question bemusement)...

Wasn't that fazed by it to be honest. I thought it was bit lame and not worthy of a Bishop / Giggity comment. And I have a very wrong sense of humour.

MrHyperPants Jan 26th 2014 9:16 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 11096242)
They do http://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-t...rdless/2471-22

Pipe cutters and bender are adjustable, so cannot figure out the problem. If the pipe wall is thicker, it just takes a bit longer and a few more turns to cut the pipe, whether you were using a manual or electric tool.

I brought my hammers from the UK and they worked fine on Canadian nails, even though they were thicker than UK ones.

I gather you left your philips screw drivers behind, as the canadians seem to like the robertson screws.

bats Jan 26th 2014 9:41 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by MrHyperPants (Post 11097986)
Sorry should of explained myself better. I wasn't talking about adjustable pipe cutters.

I meant pipe cutters that are made specifically for each size pipe. 1/2", 3/4", 1" UK ones won't fit on Canadian copper pipe.

But Canadian pipes are in imperial measurements so they should.

caretaker Jan 26th 2014 9:54 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 11098084)
But Canadian pipes are in imperial measurements so they should.

No, UK is apparently metric now, read back a bit to Claren's post. Empire in name only, so it seems.

bats Jan 26th 2014 9:58 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 11098108)
No, UK is apparently metric now, read back a bit to Claren's post. Empire in name only, apparently.

Yes, UK is metric, but a few posts back wasn't the OP saying they were specifically for imperial size?

caretaker Jan 26th 2014 10:16 am

Re: Question about plumbers tools.
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 11098118)
Yes, UK is metric, but a few posts back wasn't the OP saying they were specifically for imperial size?

I think he must have meant that the Canadian ones are Imperial.
A lawyer had a big party on Saturday night and one of his guests plugged the toilet up. The plumber was called and quickly plunged it out. On being presented with the bill the lawyer said, "What! $162.00? You were only here for 15 minutes!" "Yes, replied the plumber, but it's Saturday so it's an emergency call out, and there's a transport fee of $15 dollars, plus the normal minimum of $78 so a 1 hr minimum emergency call is $162.00. The lawyer was outraged, "I'm a top-notch legal professional and I only charge $150.00 per hour!" "Really?, said the plumber, that's what I used to charge when I was a lawyer."


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