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Old Jan 12th 2011 | 6:07 am
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Hello folks,

We have our visas in place, which were landed in August 2011. A couple of questions if I may?

What are the rules after landing for maintaining our visas and right to residency? We've been told previously (and have read on here) that we have to be in Canada 3 yrs out of 5 to keep our visas (non-consecutive). Is this correct? At the time of landing we weren't able to be issued PR cards as we didn't have an address in Canada at that time. The immigration officer told us we could sort this out when we return permanently via a local 'Service Canada' office. We plan to move to Canada at the end of June this year....can anyone envisage there being a problem for us please?

Also, whilst on...another quandary. Like I said above, we plan to move in June this year. Hubby is still employed and has yet to tell his employers of our plans. Of course, this makes it difficult to go any further forward with trying to get a job in Canada. It would be great if he could go over before us to hopefully secure employment but that would obviously entail giving up his job here. Risky business! He's also worried that if he tells his current employers our plans, they may end his employment earlier than he'd like leaving us in an even trickier position money wise. A quandary indeed....how have others worked around this problem?

Sorry if that's all too much to answer but as time ticks on, our nerves are being shot to pieces....
 
Old Jan 12th 2011 | 6:09 am
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Originally Posted by Dotty P
Hello folks,

We have our visas in place, which were landed in August 2011. A couple of questions if I may?

What are the rules after landing for maintaining our visas and right to residency? We've been told previously (and have read on here) that we have to be in Canada 3 yrs out of 5 to keep our visas (non-consecutive). Is this correct? At the time of landing we weren't able to be issued PR cards as we didn't have an address in Canada at that time. The immigration officer told us we could sort this out when we return permanently via a local 'Service Canada' office. We plan to move to Canada at the end of June this year....can anyone envisage there being a problem for us please?

Also, whilst on...another quandary. Like I said above, we plan to move in June this year. Hubby is still employed and has yet to tell his employers of our plans. Of course, this makes it difficult to go any further forward with trying to get a job in Canada. It would be great if he could go over before us to hopefully secure employment but that would obviously entail giving up his job here. Risky business! He's also worried that if he tells his current employers our plans, they may end his employment earlier than he'd like leaving us in an even trickier position money wise. A quandary indeed....how have others worked around this problem?

Sorry if that's all too much to answer but as time ticks on, our nerves are being shot to pieces....
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Old Jan 12th 2011 | 6:14 am
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Old Jan 12th 2011 | 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by Dotty P
Hello folks,

We have our visas in place, which were landed in August 2011. A couple of questions if I may?
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Old Jan 12th 2011 | 9:45 am
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Also, whilst on...another quandary. Like I said above, we plan to move in June this year. Hubby is still employed and has yet to tell his employers of our plans. Of course, this makes it difficult to go any further forward with trying to get a job in Canada. It would be great if he could go over before us to hopefully secure employment but that would obviously entail giving up his job here. Risky business! He's also worried that if he tells his current employers our plans, they may end his employment earlier than he'd like leaving us in an even trickier position money wise. A quandary indeed....how have others worked around this problem?
Is there any reason you think they can terminate his employment by telling them he will leave in the future?

Here is my experience of telling my UK employer.....I had a 12 week resignation period and I wanted to reduce this so I came clean and got permission to reduce this to 4 weeks. I spoke with HR first (in confidence) and then asked the bosses. I basically said once my visa was in my passport I would quit. They happy accepted this. I wondered if they could terminate my employment, but they could not as the only way to do this was sacking me or making me redundant. Had they gone down either route they would have had a tribunal. The only real issue I had was that I was still employed when they handed out a bonus and pay rise. I was not given the bonus and minimal pay rise but I was told by a cocky manager that I would have got more had I not said anything.

Anyway I put in a compliant to HR. (Unrelated to this I got my passport returned to me with visa, so I quit the following week).....well the company was running scared....bonus was paid within a week and on last day of work I was grabbed by some high level manager and told my true pay rise was being paid to me. He also said it was back dated a few months as an apology. :-)

I would say try speaking to HR in confidence and getting their advice.

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Old Jan 13th 2011 | 4:14 am
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Oh, how I laughed.....

So not only did I put 3 years instead of two, but I beamed myself into the future! Blimey! Actually, I wish it were August 2011....then at least we'd know where the heck we'll be and whether we managed to got jobs etc.....

thanks for that though....made me grin....
 
Old Jan 13th 2011 | 4:18 am
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Is there any reason you think they can terminate his employment by telling them he will leave in the future?

Here is my experience of telling my UK employer.....I had a 12 week resignation period and I wanted to reduce this so I came clean and got permission to reduce this to 4 weeks. I spoke with HR first (in confidence) and then asked the bosses. I basically said once my visa was in my passport I would quit. They happy accepted this. I wondered if they could terminate my employment, but they could not as the only way to do this was sacking me or making me redundant. Had they gone down either route they would have had a tribunal. The only real issue I had was that I was still employed when they handed out a bonus and pay rise. I was not given the bonus and minimal pay rise but I was told by a cocky manager that I would have got more had I not said anything.

Anyway I put in a compliant to HR. (Unrelated to this I got my passport returned to me with visa, so I quit the following week).....well the company was running scared....bonus was paid within a week and on last day of work I was grabbed by some high level manager and told my true pay rise was being paid to me. He also said it was back dated a few months as an apology. :-)

I would say try speaking to HR in confidence and getting their advice.

JB
I agree totally....but my OH is quite worried about doing it. Understandably of course but I feel that we can go no further forward unless this happens. He's even unable to update his LinkedIn page to say 'come on Canada, you can employ me if you like' (if only it were that simple!) because he's worried the powers that be at his current place of work will see. I reckon the truth should out....but then I don't have to actually go in to the grand fromage and tell him!

Well done you though, I bet you breathed a huge sigh of relief.....
 
Old Jan 13th 2011 | 5:04 am
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Hi Dotty P

I tried the whole apply for jobs whilst still in the UK and whilst it got me some contacts in the HR departments, it did not yield anything remotely serious in terms of employment.

We were very lucky to have a small amount of money that we could survive on for the first few months (in month 3 now). I would say being here in Canada has been a lot better for us in terms of progressing all avenues that are available for employment. I have registered with agencies and the local employment centre as well as applying directly to companies as jobs come up. I have had two job interviews last week and awaiting the offer from one of those companies. :-)

I have given some thought to how I handled telling my company and what I might have done differently.....after I told them I wanted to reduce my notice period another member of the team quit. He was on 12 weeks notice period but said he would not work it and only did about 5 weeks. He was not fussed about getting a reference etc. I realised I could not have told them....but to be honest I felt it was better to have done this as I was not hiding anything and besides I didn't have to make up something for my 6 month goal on my performance review. I realise I was lucky that they took it so well.

Hope it all works out well for you.

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Old Jan 13th 2011 | 6:02 am
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Hi Dotty P

I tried the whole apply for jobs whilst still in the UK and whilst it got me some contacts in the HR departments, it did not yield anything remotely serious in terms of employment.

We were very lucky to have a small amount of money that we could survive on for the first few months (in month 3 now). I would say being here in Canada has been a lot better for us in terms of progressing all avenues that are available for employment. I have registered with agencies and the local employment centre as well as applying directly to companies as jobs come up. I have had two job interviews last week and awaiting the offer from one of those companies. :-)

I have given some thought to how I handled telling my company and what I might have done differently.....after I told them I wanted to reduce my notice period another member of the team quit. He was on 12 weeks notice period but said he would not work it and only did about 5 weeks. He was not fussed about getting a reference etc. I realised I could not have told them....but to be honest I felt it was better to have done this as I was not hiding anything and besides I didn't have to make up something for my 6 month goal on my performance review. I realise I was lucky that they took it so well.

Hope it all works out well for you.

JB
Thanks JB, I think you've been very brave! So you actually went to Canada with no job to go to....that sounds really scary. However, I sometimes wish we could do that but with the exchange rate as it is, our savings have reduced by at least $200,000, which is poo. I know we're not alone in this position, everyone on here has had to make the leap but when we applied (2007), exchange rates were definitely more healthy. If only we'd been able to up sticks then! It's all such a worry, and with a teen in tow it would be so much nicer for it to be a bit less stressful and for things to fall into place just a little easier. Where in Canada are you based?
 
Old Jan 13th 2011 | 6:19 am
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Hi Dotty P

We are based in Ottawa. The exchange rate is poo at the moment. The amount we had to move over with was v.small as we have rented our UK house out instead of selling it. But we have rented a house, brought a second hand car (nice Volvo XC70) and have furnished the house....albeit Kijiji has been very good to us. We have also seen the benefits from joining Costco.

I think I am trying to say is you can make the move on a budget but when u hear things like "it will be 2 - 4 weeks till HR contact you with an offer".....it does get you crossing your fingers and you will never forget the whole emigration experience. We have loved every moment so far :-)

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Old Jan 13th 2011 | 6:40 am
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Hi Dotty P

We are based in Ottawa. The exchange rate is poo at the moment. The amount we had to move over with was v.small as we have rented our UK house out instead of selling it. But we have rented a house, brought a second hand car (nice Volvo XC70) and have furnished the house....albeit Kijiji has been very good to us. We have also seen the benefits from joining Costco.

I think I am trying to say is you can make the move on a budget but when u hear things like "it will be 2 - 4 weeks till HR contact you with an offer".....it does get you crossing your fingers and you will never forget the whole emigration experience. We have loved every moment so far :-)

Regards

JB
It's lovely to hear that you're enjoying the experience and seem so upbeat. Well done you and the best of luck with hearing a positive outcome with the jobs! Can you let us all know when you get your news?

Thanks for your advice. We too have enjoyed the UK side of the process, even the bit where we got the visa's, put the house on the market, sold within a few weeks, moved out, moved into rented and did our landing trip two days after....stressful it may have been but looking back it was hectic but fun! Just longing to be in Canada now......

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