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PrairieSushi Sep 10th 2009 1:54 am

Re: Programming jobs in Canada
 
Sorry ... yes I've always been in the west.

Although with one job, I travelled so much I didn't see downtown Calgary for two years.

iaink Sep 10th 2009 2:00 am

Re: Programming jobs in Canada
 

Originally Posted by PrairieSushi (Post 7920053)
Sorry ... yes I've always been in the west.

Although with one job, I travelled so much I didn't see downtown Calgary for two years.

I thought you started off in the GTA before heading west?

dbd33 Sep 10th 2009 2:19 am

Re: Programming jobs in Canada
 

Originally Posted by PrairieSushi (Post 7920046)
Did the maths on this yesterday ...

In my eleven years in the UK - four as a full timer, seven as a contractor, I was never out of work.

In eight years here, I've got 3 or 4 out of work periods that are just short of a year - five months to find a job when I first landed and dealing with a couple of lay offs since.

I remember comparing notes last year with a technical architect who moved here from Ontario - he had the same story - nothing to do with being an immigrant, just a feature of the job market here.

Spoke to a guy two weeks ago who finally gave up contracting when he'd been out of work for 8 months.

I still remember the day when I realised that the UK has double the population of Canada all squeezed into a space half the size of Alberta - with most of them living south of Red Deer - less people means less opportunity.


By way of contrast, I've been contracting, mostly in Canada, since 1985, I've always had one or more contracts on the go. I know a fair number of contractors who have been working steadily for as long.

PrairieSushi Sep 10th 2009 2:46 am

Re: Programming jobs in Canada
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7920126)
By way of contrast, I've been contracting, mostly in Canada, since 1985, I've always had one or more contracts on the go. I know a fair number of contractors who have been working steadily for as long.

Developers get it easier - there seems to be a more stable market.

Infrastructure is more seasonal by nature - it's either glut or famine.

Businesses can live with crappy desktops and email systems, but they're pretty much screwed if their CRM or stock management system goes down. :ohmy:

SirTainly Nov 4th 2009 12:33 am

Re: Programming jobs in Canada
 
Just resurrecting this thread so as to keep any useful replies in one place for future searchers....

I've been trawling lots of job sites in the last few days, but I'm notice most of the jobs are for large consultancies who seem to double as staffing agencies. Do the smaller IT companies only advertise locally and not on the net, or is it just that there aren't many smaller companies doing IT work in Canada?

Personally I'd prefer to apply directly to a company with say 30-50 employees than shoehorn my resume into some online application process (that messes up the formatting of the resume by converting it to .txt or disallowing addresses outside Canada).


Also am I thinking that as a programmer all I need is a job offer, and that I could get TWP at POE, and there's no sponsorship required by the employer per se?

ESarge Nov 4th 2009 1:25 am

Re: Programming jobs in Canada
 
Craigslist seems to be the most popular. Some companies are certainly still looking for good staff and the market appears to be picking up more lately.

If your job description fits within the definition that CBSA uses then yes a job offer gets you a TWP at the port of entry without an LMO without further paperwork.

Please don't use the word sponsorship with regard to what employers do. There's not financial commitment from them unlike when a PR or citizen sponsors a spouse or other family member.

SirTainly Nov 4th 2009 1:31 am

Re: Programming jobs in Canada
 

Originally Posted by ESarge (Post 8070497)
Craigslist seems to be the most popular. Some companies are certainly still looking for good staff and the market appears to be picking up more lately.

If your job description fits within the definition that CBSA uses then yes a job offer gets you a TWP at the port of entry without an LMO without further paperwork.

Please don't use the word sponsorship with regard to what employers do. There's not financial commitment from them unlike when a PR or citizen sponsors a spouse or other family member.

Thanks ESarge, I've looked at Craigslist, but no dice so far - will keep looking though. My previous job descriptions fit one of two codes that are LMO exempt, and the only reason I say sponsorship is because that is exactly what was said on a knockback email I received the other day, which puzzled me because I thought offering a job to someone requiring a TWP but who was LMO exempt was not substantially more work for an employer than employing a local.

ESarge Nov 4th 2009 2:12 am

Re: Programming jobs in Canada
 
It's not much more work. But I think a lot of companies are scared by what it might entail without actually understanding it.

I think the word sponsorship is scary to employers; which is why I suggest not using it.

Posidrive Nov 4th 2009 3:15 pm

Re: Programming jobs in Canada
 

Originally Posted by SirTainly (Post 8070392)
Also am I thinking that as a programmer all I need is a job offer, and that I could get TWP at POE, and there's no sponsorship required by the employer per se?

I came via the IT worker LMO waiver scheme and I think that it is still in place, but it is a scary process since it up to the immigration officer at the POE whether or not they let you in. First time no problem, second time an hour of hell because the officer didn't know about the scheme. Current economic climate doesn't help. If you do arrive at POE with a job offer, make sure that you have have as much evidence as possible to support you experience that makes you better than a Canadian for the job, CV, certificates, etc.


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