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danfolkestone Mar 4th 2010 5:28 pm

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by KerinaK2008 (Post 8393807)
No, i filled out the relevant form to tell them i was leaving last year. It was deferred for a year as i was unemployed at the time. But recently i had a letter that arrived in the UK at my mums saying i need to start paying it back. They were threatening to request a standard payment if i do not fill out an overseas income assessment. I sent the assessment last week and assume will have to start sending payments now. I know the exchange rate will prob not work in my favour. Cant really transfer the loan. I was thinking of sending bulk payments to UK account. But cant really afford to do it that way.

I love the way that they do that. The letter you get when it is deferred or they have assessed your monthly payments says in bold that you don't need to do anything for 12 months, at which time they will send you an income assessment form. However, before they send the form and a couple of months before you are due reassessment, you receive the stroppy threatening letter! Don't most companies do it the other way around?!

I can't offer any advice on the original question. I left enough money to pay off the loans in an English savings account. Given the subsequent shift in exchange rates, I wish that I had brought it over, but I took the safer option.:zzz:

adele Mar 4th 2010 6:34 pm

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by KerinaK2008 (Post 8393807)
No, i filled out the relevant form to tell them i was leaving last year. It was deferred for a year as i was unemployed at the time. But recently i had a letter that arrived in the UK at my mums saying i need to start paying it back. They were threatening to request a standard payment if i do not fill out an overseas income assessment. I sent the assessment last week and assume will have to start sending payments now. I know the exchange rate will prob not work in my favour. Cant really transfer the loan. I was thinking of sending bulk payments to UK account. But cant really afford to do it that way.

I'm in the same situation and have just been re-assessed; payments will start this month. I too haven't been impressed with my dealings with the SLC but I won't dwell on that right now...Anyway to start with I have set up a Direct Debit from my UK bank account so the payments will go straight from there each month, but then when the money in my UK runs out (which it will in a few months, there are no funds going into that account) then I will probably just pay by Canadian credit card and incur the fee (1.5% I think?). To transfer funds regularly would work out more expensive in bank transfer fees I think, and there's no way I can afford to transfer funds in bulk or pay it all off unfortunately :(

Hope it all works out ok for you,

Adele :)

KerinaK2008 Mar 5th 2010 12:52 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 
Thanks for your comments on this everyone. Adele, I will probably go with your option and just pay on a Canadian Credit Card. Looks like it will be the cheapest option. I double checked with TD bank yesterday and it would actually be $30 dollars extra each time i want to wire the money! Thats ridiculous especally if you have to do it every month! Will see how credit card payments go.

Crestfallen Mar 5th 2010 1:10 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by readytomove (Post 8393774)
Has anyone just not bothered to tell them you left the country and not supplied a new address?


Oh shoot... I was hoping and had been told by a few people I could do EXACTLY that, but I guess not. :sneaky:

I have a serious case of sour grapes with student loans anyway, in that if i'd been born a couple of months earlier, I would've come under the old grants system, I guess I'll just have to blame my parents for their unfortunate timing :lol:

readytomove Mar 5th 2010 1:44 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by Crestfallen (Post 8396321)
Oh shoot... I was hoping and had been told by a few people I could do EXACTLY that, but I guess not. :sneaky:

I have a serious case of sour grapes with student loans anyway, in that if i'd been born a couple of months earlier, I would've come under the old grants system, I guess I'll just have to blame my parents for their unfortunate timing :lol:

Yeah that was my plan but after speaking to a number of people it would appear its not a good idea!

I also have very sour grapes with them, not only did i not get a grant but because I started my degree after 1998 i don't even have the option of deferring for a year! double screwed. I hate the SLC

el_richo Mar 5th 2010 1:48 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by readytomove (Post 8396363)
Yeah that was my plan but after speaking to a number of people it would appear its not a good idea!

I also have very sour grapes with them, not only did i not get a grant but because I started my degree after 1998 i don't even have the option of deferring for a year! double screwed. I hate the SLC

I know. Damn the buggers for lending people money, providing a payment scheme much more attractive when compared to other financial organisations, and, to cap it all off, having the audacity to make the borrower pay it back :thumbdown:

dbd33 Mar 5th 2010 2:39 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8396372)
I know. Damn the buggers for lending people money, providing a payment scheme much more attractive when compared to other financial organisations, and, to cap it all off, having the audacity to make the borrower pay it back :thumbdown:

The terms and conditions of these loans may be more generous than those of loans to buy televisions and soft furnishings but, since the borrowers have no choice but to take out the loans and people only slightly older than them had no need to take out such loans, I think they have legitimate reason to be pissed off.

el_richo Mar 5th 2010 3:00 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8396486)
The terms and conditions of these loans may be more generous than those of loans to buy televisions and soft furnishings but, since the borrowers have no choice but to take out the loans and people only slightly older than them had no need to take out such loans, I think they have legitimate reason to be pissed off.

As unfortunate as it may be, the SLC are merely providing a service due to funding changes back in the 90's. To be pissed of at them for these changes is a little off.

Crestfallen Mar 5th 2010 3:53 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8396486)
The terms and conditions of these loans may be more generous than those of loans to buy televisions and soft furnishings but, since the borrowers have no choice but to take out the loans and people only slightly older than them had no need to take out such loans, I think they have legitimate reason to be pissed off.

Thanks for understanding.:thumbup:
I was feeling unsure about having to take out the loan in the first place, but my parents certainly couldn't afford to support me and as it was I was only just able to make ends meet with my loan and a part time job in the evenings and on Saturdays. Unfortunately, you have it drummed into you in 6th form college that University is the only way. If I had realised then that over 10 years later I would still be in debt, perhaps I wouldn't have gone, but as we were the first year of having the new system, no one really knew how it would pan out in the future.

To clarify I am not annoyed with the student loans company for the fact that I was forced to take out the loan (I am annoyed with the government for this). What does annoy me with the SLC is their complete inability to get anything right. since I have been dealing with them, I informed them 3 times of my change of address and they still kept sending correspondence to my old address. I have also not had a statement from them in 2 years despite repeated requests, so I don't even know where I stand with my loan at the moment. If they can't even cope with simple administrative matters while I am in the same country as them, I do worry about how things will turn out being separated by several thousand miles.

I had been told by a few people who had already done so that if you left the Country, you didn't have to continue paying, but as this is not the case, I will have to bite the bullet and keep on paying.

dbd33 Mar 5th 2010 4:06 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by Crestfallen (Post 8396620)
To clarify I am not annoyed with the student loans company for the fact that I was forced to take out the loan (I am annoyed with the government for this). What does annoy me with the SLC is their complete inability to get anything right. since I have been dealing with them, I informed them 3 times of my change of address and they still kept sending correspondence to my old address. I have also not had a statement from them in 2 years despite repeated requests, so I don't even know where I stand with my loan at the moment. If they can't even cope with simple administrative matters while I am in the same country as them, I do worry about how things will turn out being separated by several thousand miles.

My understanding is that things continue in much the same manner except that you'll have to "get up in the middle of the night to call bloody Scotland".

dbd33 Mar 5th 2010 4:11 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8396513)
As unfortunate as it may be, the SLC are merely providing a service due to funding changes back in the 90's. To be pissed of at them for these changes is a little off.

I doubt people are "pissed of" (sic) at the SLC for the changes in government policy. I expect they are able to differentiate between being pissed off at the then government for changes in policy and being pissed off at the SLC for having the competence and public relations skills of a Canadian phone company. I don't blame them for either.

ireland2canada Mar 5th 2010 4:51 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8396372)
I know. Damn the buggers for lending people money, providing a payment scheme much more attractive when compared to other financial organisations, and, to cap it all off, having the audacity to make the borrower pay it back :thumbdown:

I have been paying back my student loan every month, using their payment scheme, since 2001. When I say 'paying back' I mean paying the interest. The actual sum that I owe has changed very little in the intervening 9 years.

Since moving to Canada, I have spent more time than I feel is reasonable communicating with the SLC. The only silver lining to the whole issue is that, I believe your loan is written off once you hit the age of 65 (or retirement age, or something). They only need to keep dithering for another four decades or so.

Kaye5 Mar 5th 2010 5:00 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 
We have to wonder about their ability to track down someone who does not tell them they have left the country (not that I am suggesting anyone should do this, of course).

My husband has a student loan taken out as a mature student. Despite us filling in all the forms, telling them where he works, and where we live - and they send statements to our address - they are still not making deductions. If we were younger we would be worried, but as he is in his mid 40s, and the loan is huge, he will never pay it all back as it is indeed written off when you retire - or stop working for any other reason for that matter. So we wait and see.

el_richo Mar 5th 2010 5:18 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8396652)
I doubt people are "pissed of" (sic) at the SLC for the changes in government policy. I expect they are able to differentiate between being pissed off at the then government for changes in policy and being pissed off at the SLC for having the competence and public relations skills of a Canadian phone company

I'm merely using the postings within this thread as a basis for my comments, and clearly people cannot differentiate, based on what's written here.


Originally Posted by Crestfallen (Post 8396321)
I have a serious case of sour grapes with student loans anyway, in that if i'd been born a couple of months earlier, I would've come under the old grants system...


Originally Posted by readytomove (Post 8396363)
I also have very sour grapes with them, not only did i not get a grant but because I started my degree after 1998...

I do agree that it's a pisser with the timing for students heading out to University immediately after the changes came into effect.

Almost Canadian Mar 5th 2010 5:23 am

Re: Paying back student loan
 

Originally Posted by Kaye5 (Post 8396770)
We have to wonder about their ability to track down someone who does not tell them they have left the country (not that I am suggesting anyone should do this, of course).

It is actually very easy and, relatively, cheap. I used to do this all the time acting for creditors in England. We would trace people all over the world. This was before the days of Facebook etc. I would imagine that it is even easier now.


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