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bomber2908 Mar 16th 2012 12:23 am

Parrot to Canada
 
So we have come doen to two places we'd like to move to, on eof them being in Europe, the other being in Canada. Now we have a parrot which we could easily transport in a car through Europe, however if we decide on Canada I have no interest in leaving him in some dark place below the plane where he will probably have a heart attack. So I was wondering if anyone knew about airlines that allow parrots in the cabin. Bear in mind he is a very small parrot bread about the size of a cockatiel, so would easily fit under a seat in a plane.

Thanks for any advice! :thumbsup:

P.S.: I have no intention on leaving him behind, so please do not suggest this!

Edo Mar 16th 2012 12:27 am

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Originally Posted by bomber2908 (Post 9956192)
....I have no interest in leaving him in some dark place below the plane where he will probably have a heart attack.

And I have no interest in travelling with an airline who make me sit next to animals on their plane cuz I will have a heart attack too.

dbd33 Mar 16th 2012 12:49 am

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It's cold in Canada, probably not good for a parrot. I never see parrots when walking the dog and such. Australia would work better. I saw parrots there. And bananas, all manner of tropicana.

Atlantic Xpat Mar 16th 2012 12:54 am

Re: Parrot to Canada
 

Originally Posted by bomber2908 (Post 9956192)
So we have come doen to two places we'd like to move to, on eof them being in Europe, the other being in Canada. Now we have a parrot which we could easily transport in a car through Europe, however if we decide on Canada I have no interest in leaving him in some dark place below the plane where he will probably have a heart attack. So I was wondering if anyone knew about airlines that allow parrots in the cabin. Bear in mind he is a very small parrot bread about the size of a cockatiel, so would easily fit under a seat in a plane.

Thanks for any advice! :thumbsup:

P.S.: I have no intention on leaving him behind, so please do not suggest this!

Avoiding the temptation for Monty Python jokes.....One can't imagine any circumstance and any airline that would allow you to take your parrot in the aircraft cabin on a transatlantic flight. If consigning him to the hold where any other animals are transported is of no interest, and leaving him behind is not an option, immigrating to Canada is likely to be a challenge.;)

dbd33 Mar 16th 2012 1:09 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 9956214)
Avoiding the temptation for Monty Python jokes.....One can't imagine any circumstance and any airline that would allow you to take your parrot in the aircraft cabin on a transatlantic flight. If consigning him to the hold where any other animals are transported is of no interest, and leaving him behind is not an option, immigrating to Canada is likely to be a challenge.;)

Boat. One could move to Canada by boat. Perhaps have a leg amputated at the knee to get the proper look.

Auld Yin Mar 16th 2012 1:25 am

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So, after the preceding comments, where in Europe are you going?

Jingsamichty Mar 16th 2012 2:16 am

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The Canada dream has ceased to be.

Atlantic Xpat Mar 16th 2012 2:19 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9956310)
The Canada dream has ceased to be.

It's not ceased, it's just sleeping.......

Former Lancastrian Mar 16th 2012 3:15 am

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What sort of parrot is it? Are you sure it wont be pining for the Canadian fjords?
Without a thread search is this a BE first of not moving to Canada because of a parrot?

dgagitw Mar 16th 2012 3:21 am

Re: Parrot to Canada
 

Originally Posted by bomber2908 (Post 9956192)
So we have come doen to two places we'd like to move to, on eof them being in Europe, the other being in Canada. Now we have a parrot which we could easily transport in a car through Europe, however if we decide on Canada I have no interest in leaving him in some dark place below the plane where he will probably have a heart attack. So I was wondering if anyone knew about airlines that allow parrots in the cabin. Bear in mind he is a very small parrot bread about the size of a cockatiel, so would easily fit under a seat in a plane.

Thanks for any advice! :thumbsup:

P.S.: I have no intention on leaving him behind, so please do not suggest this!

By boat: http://www.cruisepeople.co.uk/transat.htm

You'll most likely have the hassle of going via the US (double immigration pain for the bird), but it seems possible and, as others have pointed out, somewhat appropriate to take him by boat. Seems like it could be good fun too!

bomber2908 Mar 16th 2012 3:36 am

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Thanks dgagitw for the only useful post!

Edo seriously why would post such a rude comment instead of providing help people like you should be simply banned from forums useless, rude and simply time wasting!

TheThornes Mar 16th 2012 3:48 am

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Loving some of these comments!! :rofl:

Seriously though, travelling in the hold of the plane where other animals travel will probably be far less stressful to the parrot than travelling up in the cabin. Let's face it, wherever it is in the plane its going to be noisy. In the cabin it would have the added stress of additional noise from people talking, kids screaming, kicking chairs etc and probably less room too (cage would have to be pretty small to fit). At least in the hold, there's going to be no disturbing movement and noise from people walking about and it will be dark which helps animals to settle down. Also bear in mind that if the parrot is up in the cabin, he could be of annoyance to other passengers - he could be noisy if he's stressed and some passengers could be like my husband in that they are allergic to feathers.

OK, so it wasn't a parrot but we did bring a cat and dog over with us and they travelled quite happily in the hold of the plane; I'm not saying that they enjoyed it but they were certainly none the worse for wear after it.

If you're really worried about the parrot travelling in the hold of a plane, speak to your vet and see what they say whether they think the journey would be too much for it or not. I'm sure it would be fine; birds get transported on planes all the time, whether they be pets or otherwise. At the end of the day it will be probably be you who are more stressed than the parrot.

Best of luck with whatever you decide.

iaink Mar 16th 2012 3:56 am

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Originally Posted by bomber2908 (Post 9956411)
Thanks dgagitw for the only useful post!

Edo seriously why would post such a rude comment instead of providing help people like you should be simply banned from forums useless, rude and simply time wasting!

Was he not just offering a passengers perspective of having to share cabin space with a parrot? He didnt break any forum rules as far as I can tell. Dont parrots potentially have psittacosis, and some people have allergies for sure, so I dont think any scheduled airline would (or should) allow a bird in the cabin.

Is the hold not lit anyway when animals are travelling down there? If its OK for dogs and cats to travel in the hold then I imagine its OK for parrots?

On a British expats site Monty Python references in any parrot thread are unavoidable I would imagine. Cant be the first time you have experiences such a thing surely?

dbd33 Mar 16th 2012 4:12 am

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Originally Posted by bomber2908 (Post 9956411)
Thanks dgagitw for the only useful post!

Oi! I first mentioned that you could don an eye patch, stick the bird on your shoulder and rolick along on the high seas. I'd call that useful.

fletcher m Mar 16th 2012 4:43 am

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Originally Posted by [B
bomber[/B]2908;9956192]So we have come doen to two places we'd like to move to, on eof them being in Europe, the other being in Canada. Now we have a parrot which we could easily transport in a car through Europe, however if we decide on Canada I have no interest in leaving him in some dark place below the plane where he will probably have a heart attack. So I was wondering if anyone knew about airlines that allow parrots in the cabin. Bear in mind he is a very small parrot bread about the size of a cockatiel, so would easily fit under a seat in a plane.

Thanks for any advice! :thumbsup:

P.S.: I have no intention on leaving him behind, so please do not suggest this!

Is this a wind up? You are called bomber and you want to stuff things under a passenger seat! Come on, stop the piss take now.

You could use the following carrier www.polygone.ca :rofl::rofl::rofl:

or this one..

http://www.polytravels.com/

Maplease Mar 16th 2012 5:00 am

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Hi,

Why don't you speak to your/a vet and see what they advise? I don't know how realistic it is (not knowing much about the parrot world) but are they able to sedate parrots?

Apologies if this is a ridiculous suggestion.

Alternatively, play it some relaxing music e.g. The Birdie Song (I don't apologise for that one);)

Good luck.

Souvy Mar 16th 2012 5:01 am

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Is it a metric parrot? If it is, it wouldn't be compatible with anything in Canada.

fletcher m Mar 16th 2012 5:02 am

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Originally Posted by Maplease (Post 9956523)
Hi,

Why don't you speak to your/a vet and see what they advise? I don't know how realistic it is (not knowing much about the parrot world) but are they able to sedate parrots?

Apologies if this is a ridiculous suggestion.

Alternatively, play it some relaxing music e.g. The Birdie Song (I don't apologise for that one);)

Good luck.

Or this. http://www.parrot-bird.com/kva-kva.html

Maplease Mar 16th 2012 5:09 am

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Originally Posted by fletcher m (Post 9956526)

That is absolute genius.:rofl::rofl:

Edo Mar 16th 2012 6:26 am

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Originally Posted by bomber2908 (Post 9956411)
Edo......you should be simply banned from forums useless, rude and simply time wasting!

I am sure some people on this forum would say the same thing about you. But like iaink said:


Originally Posted by iaink (Post 9956433)
Cant be the first time you have experiences such a thing surely?


fletcher m Mar 16th 2012 6:43 am

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Originally Posted by bomber2908 (Post 9956411)
Thanks dgagitw for the only useful post!

Edo seriously why would post such a rude comment instead of providing help people like you should be simply banned from forums useless, rude and simply time wasting!

Lighten up a bit man, see the funny side and laugh along with us, take the important bits that are useful and chill....this is not a quantum physics lesson.

Oink Mar 16th 2012 6:47 am

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I think its incredibly inconsiderate to force other passengers to have to sit near an animal in a closed space for eight or more hours. Put it in the hold or don't bother taking it.

fletcher m Mar 16th 2012 6:48 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 9956524)
Is it a metric parrot? If it is, it wouldn't be compatible with anything in Canada.

I know, the imperial spanners won't budgie them, unless, you hit it with your ma caw (claw) hammer first.:rofl:

dbd33 Mar 16th 2012 6:50 am

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Pieces of ten, pieces of ten.

fletcher m Mar 16th 2012 6:51 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9956649)
I think its incredibly inconsiderate to force other passengers to have to sit near an animal in a closed space for eight or more hours. Put it in the hold or don't bother taking it.

I heard that they can live as long as a human? How long do you want to put it on hold for?

Jingsamichty Mar 16th 2012 7:41 am

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Can it not fly alongside the plane? If you get a window seat you will be able to encourage it by holding up little bits of whatever parrots eat.

Aviator Mar 16th 2012 8:04 am

Re: Parrot to Canada
 

Originally Posted by bomber2908 (Post 9956192)
So we have come doen to two places we'd like to move to, on eof them being in Europe, the other being in Canada. Now we have a parrot which we could easily transport in a car through Europe, however if we decide on Canada I have no interest in leaving him in some dark place below the plane where he will probably have a heart attack. So I was wondering if anyone knew about airlines that allow parrots in the cabin. Bear in mind he is a very small parrot bread about the size of a cockatiel, so would easily fit under a seat in a plane.

Thanks for any advice! :thumbsup:

P.S.: I have no intention on leaving him behind, so please do not suggest this!

It won't be 'below the plane' , at 36000' that would be too cold (around -40c), but maybe in the hold, which is heated and some areas have lighting.

It would have to pass through security and maybe pass a pollygraph. If it was a duck at least you could put it in pastry and carry it with you.

Novocastrian Mar 16th 2012 12:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 9956755)
It won't be 'below the plane' , at 36000' that would be too cold (around -40c), but maybe in the hold, which is heated and some areas have lighting.

It would have to pass through security and maybe pass a pollygraph. If it was a duck at least you could put it in pastry and carry it with you.

Aside from the spelling (intentional I'm sure) that was very funny.

Novocastrian Mar 16th 2012 12:50 pm

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Originally Posted by fletcher m (Post 9956645)
Lighten up a bit man, see the funny side and laugh along with us, take the important bits that are useful and chill....this is not a quantum physics lesson.

If it were, I'd mention Schroedinger's Parrot.

On reflection though, if the parrot ever makes it to Canada, it'd probably do better than my students in that class.

Dashie Mar 16th 2012 1:13 pm

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When we used to walk the dog beside the bike, we'd attach it by the lead to the bike. Could you do something similar with the parrot and the plane? See National Lampoon's Vacation for an automotive example...

MillieF Mar 16th 2012 7:11 pm

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Bomber thank you for this post, I have been in gales of laughter.

We are taking three cats and a dog, but we do have two pocket parrots, and have decided the stress would be just too much for them and so they are going to live with friends. However in your situation I would contact Par Air on parair.co.uk or 01206 330332 they are really helpful. Best of luck.

Aviator Mar 17th 2012 4:33 am

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Originally Posted by MillieF (Post 9957486)
Bomber thank you for this post, I have been in gales of laughter.

We are taking three cats and a dog, but we do have two pocket parrots, and have decided the stress would be just too much for them and so they are going to live with friends. However in your situation I would contact Par Air on parair.co.uk or 01206 330332 they are really helpful. Best of luck.

If they are pocket parrots, you could buy them some Polly Pockets to keep them company eh!

nikki dreaming Mar 17th 2012 5:13 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9956226)
Boat. One could move to Canada by boat. Perhaps have a leg amputated at the knee to get the proper look.


Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9956718)
Can it not fly alongside the plane? If you get a window seat you will be able to encourage it by holding up little bits of whatever parrots eat.


Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 9957970)
If they are pocket parrots, you could buy them some Polly Pockets to keep them company eh!

omg, this is the funniest thread i have read in a long time on BE:thumbsup:, sorry OP, but like someone said you do need to lighten up and take the serious with the not so serious, there have been some suggestions on here for you, good luck:thumbup:

Atlantic Xpat Mar 17th 2012 5:37 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9957137)
If it were, I'd mention Schroedinger's Parrot.

On reflection though, if the parrot ever makes it to Canada, it'd probably do better than my students in that class.

Good grief! Schroedinger had a menagerie then?

Novocastrian Mar 17th 2012 7:13 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 9958040)
Good grief! Schroedinger had a menagerie then?

Sometimes he did and sometimes he didn't. :)

Atlantic Xpat Mar 17th 2012 9:27 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9958198)
Sometimes he did and sometimes he didn't. :)

All very quantum.

Novocastrian Mar 17th 2012 9:36 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 9958390)
All very quantum.

That makes me think of a fix for the OP's conundrum: all he needs to do is entangle his quantum parrot and then observe at a distance (after the flight) resulting in quantum tele transportation of said parrot.

It might all depend on whether it's strange parrot or one with charm.

Bob Mar 17th 2012 9:45 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9956213)
It's cold in Canada, probably not good for a parrot. I never see parrots when walking the dog and such. Australia would work better. I saw parrots there. And bananas, all manner of tropicana.

Parrots flew wild around Windsor in the UK though, about 30 of them, a few got released by accident years back when the owner died and they just flourished.

Very surreal.

The4BellsLondon Mar 17th 2012 11:11 am

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 9958426)
Parrots flew wild around Windsor in the UK though, about 30 of them, a few got released by accident years back when the owner died and they just flourished.

Very surreal.

We used to have a large flock in Cheam _ lived in Nonsuch Park!

dbd33 Mar 17th 2012 11:20 am

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Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 9958552)
We used to have a large flock in Cheam _ lived in Nonsuch Park!

Pandemonium, innit?


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