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Old Feb 17th 2013, 1:20 am
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I apologise if this has already been discussed.

Just some advice needed really. About to qualify with a Degree in Nursing (Child). I am currently applying for my IEC so I can move in with my Canadian boyfriend of 3 years.

As far as I am aware my options are limited and I'm best of waiting for my PR as common law and then applying for a course for internationally trained nurses (I've seen a few universities in Ontario that do this).

Does anyone have any tips?

Thanks so much!
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Old Feb 17th 2013, 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by OntarioIsForLovers
I apologise if this has already been discussed.

Just some advice needed really. About to qualify with a Degree in Nursing (Child). I am currently applying for my IEC so I can move in with my Canadian boyfriend of 3 years.

As far as I am aware my options are limited and I'm best of waiting for my PR as common law and then applying for a course for internationally trained nurses (I've seen a few universities in Ontario that do this).

Does anyone have any tips?

Thanks so much!
Hi,

I have been volunteering in a local hospital in TO and been sifting through 100's of registered nurse resumes everyday for the past few weeks. Just for you to know the criteria seems to be based on a relevant Canadian qualification for which the bridging programme at schools like George Brown which seems to be a two year course and the other criterion is to be registered with the College of Nurses http://www.cno.org/en/become-a-nurse...utside-canada/. The hospital I am with also provide student program's as its affiliated with the University of Toronto.

My understanding is that you can work as a nurse under the IEC but need to take a medical exam prior as part of the IEC application. Whether you can study or not with an IEC I am not sure.

I hope this has helped
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Hi,

I have been volunteering in a local hospital in TO and been sifting through 100's of registered nurse resumes everyday for the past few weeks. Just for you to know the criteria seems to be based on a relevant Canadian qualification for which the bridging programme at schools like George Brown which seems to be a two year course and the other criterion is to be registered with the College of Nurses http://www.cno.org/en/become-a-nurse...utside-canada/. The hospital I am with also provide student program's as its affiliated with the University of Toronto.

My understanding is that you can work as a nurse under the IEC but need to take a medical exam prior as part of the IEC application. Whether you can study or not with an IEC I am not sure.

I hope this has helped
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You can't study on an IEC, and you have to be a citizen or PR to enrol on most of the bridging the gap programmes. I don't mind waiting untill then to enrol, I just don't think I would pass the Ontario nursing province exam without doing the degree. It will be worth it in the end though, the salary is much higher for nurses in Canada than here, and the quality of life in general .
Do you know if the hospital you work at seconds people to do their nurse training?
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Just be aware for the College to OK you for bridging or the exam (CRNE) they must assess your transcripts and for all you will need both clinical and theory hours in Paeds, Mental Health, Adult and Obstetrics.
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Wow this is almost exactly my situation!! am a qualified paediatric nurse working at great Ormond street hospital, just applied for my IEC and about to move in with my canadian boyfriend in Calgary, AB. hopefully in april. Am also looking into the nursing thing as it seems the Canadian qualification is almost always a 4 year Baccalaureate degree in generalist Adult nursing and then they specialise so they dont recognise our Child branch qualification. Its my understanding that in Alberta i must submit an application to CARNE to assess my eligibility to be registered with the college of nurses there ( like our NMC) just this eligibility assessment process costs over $500 and mostly us brits aren't eligible... they then tell you what it will take to become eligible and mostly its either to re-train or add additional training& clinical hours in order to pass a test over 5 days at a specific nursing institution to be competent as an adult/generalist nurse. My friend is out there now doing the same thing in Saskatchewan and has had to go back to college as a first year student nurse after being qualified 10 years . Either way none of this is something you can undertake on the IEC so I guess you'd have to get PR/Sponsorship. Its harsh our qualification is not recognised
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Not harsh just that the UK stopped being general trained many years ago and I am sure it was done for a reason like trying to stop nurses from moving overseas. I trained back in the UK both as a ENG and RN and my training covered all areas but still had to do some coursework to meet requirements but a lot was to do with how my transcripts was laid out in regards clinical and theory.

Canada is general trained and 4 years but they do take breaks at summer and winter so I think time wise would work out the same as a UK BSN training as long as all areas covered like Paeds, Mental Health, Obstetrics and Adult and that both clinical and theory is covered
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Originally Posted by OntarioIsForLovers
I apologise if this has already been discussed.

Just some advice needed really. About to qualify with a Degree in Nursing (Child). I am currently applying for my IEC so I can move in with my Canadian boyfriend of 3 years.

As far as I am aware my options are limited and I'm best of waiting for my PR as common law and then applying for a course for internationally trained nurses (I've seen a few universities in Ontario that do this).

Does anyone have any tips?

Thanks so much!
Once you are qualified, you would need to apply to the CNO (link above) to b assessed for eligibility - this is a long process. All my research so far has shown that you cant enter a bridging course for IENs without a letter of direction from CNO. The CNO also looks at registration with your nursing body (NMC), and you may need to have worked in the country where you were registered.

As Silverdragon said, nurses here are generalist trained - much like the old training pre Project 2000.

I am not sure what it is like in Toronto, but I am in London ON and they are very strict regarding working even as a support worker - they want you to have a Personal Support Worker Certificate in order to employ you as a carer.
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I am not sure what it is like in Toronto, but I am in London ON and they are very strict regarding working even as a support worker - they want you to have a Personal Support Worker Certificate in order to employ you as a carer.[/QUOTE]

Yep thats what i found in Alberta too...i asked if i could work as a nurse aid/ HCA on my IEC ( i have had a medical) and they said my qualifications ( 8 years qualified- BSc degree and masters) were not transferable to the support worker certificate and that it would be at the hiring managers disgression if i was employable! Kinda made me want to leave that right there and do bar work!
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Originally Posted by Silverdragon102
Not harsh just that the UK stopped being general trained many years ago and I am sure it was done for a reason like trying to stop nurses from moving overseas. I trained back in the UK both as a ENG and RN and my training covered all areas but still had to do some coursework to meet requirements but a lot was to do with how my transcripts was laid out in regards clinical and theory.

Canada is general trained and 4 years but they do take breaks at summer and winter so I think time wise would work out the same as a UK BSN training as long as all areas covered like Paeds, Mental Health, Obstetrics and Adult and that both clinical and theory is covered
I happen to think that its fairly harsh that I cant pursue my chosen career in Canada unless i retrain and start again from scratch after 8 years qualified I would not want to be a student nurse again for love or money so will have to leave my nursing career behind once i get to canada...harsh is one of the words id use to describe that...
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I happen to think that its fairly harsh that I cant pursue my chosen career in Canada unless i retrain and start again from scratch after 8 years qualified I would not want to be a student nurse again for love or money so will have to leave my nursing career behind once i get to canada...harsh is one of the words id use to describe that...

I moved to Toronto in 2010 and decided not to attempt to get registered with CNO as I qualified a long time ago (SRN!!) and was in Occupational Health for quite some time. My friend moved here last year and spent a few frustrating months going between CNO and the university to get onto a bridging course but admitted defeat and is now looking at other career options.
Sorry that doesn't help you, but you won't be the first person to have to give up your nursing career
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The same thing happens when a Canadian nurse tries to move to the UK. A friend who has her B.Sc.N. and worked as a pediatric oncology nurse here in London, Ontario moved to the UK with her boyfriend engineer. She spent the better part of a year trying to get certified in the UK. Gave up in the end - no matter how much documentation she provided there was always one more thing. She ended up working as a baby sitter in the UK and made almost as much as what she would have earned as a nurse.
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This is depressing. I guess I'm faced with the choice of being with my boyfriend and being a nurse.
I did a common foundation year in my first year of university where we did both theory and practice hours in mental health, adult and learning disability but not obstertic, how stressful.
I really don't want to spend 4 years doing my nursing training all over again!
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This is depressing. I guess I'm faced with the choice of being with my boyfriend and being a nurse.
I did a common foundation year in my first year of university where we did both theory and practice hours in mental health, adult and learning disability but not obstertic, how stressful.
I really don't want to spend 4 years doing my nursing training all over again!
There is no harm in sendin off your application to CNO and see what they say......it is about $650 and takes a long time. Uou may as well get the wheels in motion to see where you stand. They will need transcripts from uni sent directly to them and they assess your training and will advise on the steps you need to take to become eligible to take the CRNE.
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Originally Posted by caleo
There is no harm in sendin off your application to CNO and see what they say......it is about $650 and takes a long time. Uou may as well get the wheels in motion to see where you stand. They will need transcripts from uni sent directly to them and they assess your training and will advise on the steps you need to take to become eligible to take the CRNE.
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The same thing happens when a Canadian nurse tries to move to the UK. A friend who has her B.Sc.N. and worked as a pediatric oncology nurse here in London, Ontario moved to the UK with her boyfriend engineer. She spent the better part of a year trying to get certified in the UK. Gave up in the end - no matter how much documentation she provided there was always one more thing. She ended up working as a baby sitter in the UK and made almost as much as what she would have earned as a nurse.
This wasn't the case with my daughter. She worked in a trauma unit in Toronto and moved to a similar job in London (technically she has both jobs so long as she does a couple of shifts a year in Toronto). The biggest bother for her was the IELTs exam, which to her irritation, her partner, an EU national, didn't have to take even though she took her degree in English and he qualified in Italian.
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