New baby and passports
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The reason to get at least a first British passport for the child is twofold:
1. For Canada born children, it's the only proof of British citizenship. Some people who follow your advice will miss a deadline to register the child as British (in the cases where citizenship isn't automatic).
2. British authorities are a lot stricter with proof of ID when an adult turns up looking for a first passport. Things are a little easier if there is a previous passport on record.
Your point about renewals is valid (most Canadian children living in Canada don't need British passports), but normally a first passport is recommended as soon as possible.
There are also a few places where travel on a British passport may be easier than on a Canadian one (eg parts of Central and South America).
1. For Canada born children, it's the only proof of British citizenship. Some people who follow your advice will miss a deadline to register the child as British (in the cases where citizenship isn't automatic).
2. British authorities are a lot stricter with proof of ID when an adult turns up looking for a first passport. Things are a little easier if there is a previous passport on record.
Your point about renewals is valid (most Canadian children living in Canada don't need British passports), but normally a first passport is recommended as soon as possible.
There are also a few places where travel on a British passport may be easier than on a Canadian one (eg parts of Central and South America).
True enough, I was assuming a british born parent where citizenship for the child is not going to be in question, and still being a (albeit older) child when applying for a british passport later on if thats still what you want to do. With a new kid on the way there are plenty of more pressing financial demands than coughing up for two passports when one will suffice.
As a secondary issue there seems to be no straightforward way of getting a passport quickly if you need/want to travel with a very young baby, the canadian long form certificate takes weeks if not months to arrive, and you cant do much without it. After that its probably quicker to get a canadian PP than a UK one. We had one turned around by the passport office in 4 hours when it was necessary recently, Im not sure it would be so easy to do that with a british one.
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We will be getting 'it' both british and canadian passports asap, that's just me, but are now aware of possible timelines and which line to go in at the airport
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Even with a British born parent, registration is needed (before age 18) if the claim to citizenship is based on an unmarried father and child was born before 1 July 2006.
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Is that married at the time of birth, or does marriage after the fact count? We weren't married when our sons were born, but got married when they were two years old just before we left the UK (they were born there - as were both of us and our parents). They are 20 now and have never had a British passport of their own, but were included on ours in the past.
My daughter was born after marriage but in Germany (in 1992) and was registered at the Consulate in Dusseldorf (also previously included on our passports).
They should all be able to get British PP's easily enough?
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Jeremy,
Is that married at the time of birth, or does marriage after the fact count? We weren't married when our sons were born, but got married when they were two years old just before we left the UK (they were born there - as were both of us and our parents). They are 20 now and have never had a British passport of their own, but were included on ours in the past.
My daughter was born after marriage but in Germany (in 1992) and was registered at the Consulate in Dusseldorf (also previously included on our passports).
They should all be able to get British PP's easily enough?
Is that married at the time of birth, or does marriage after the fact count? We weren't married when our sons were born, but got married when they were two years old just before we left the UK (they were born there - as were both of us and our parents). They are 20 now and have never had a British passport of their own, but were included on ours in the past.
My daughter was born after marriage but in Germany (in 1992) and was registered at the Consulate in Dusseldorf (also previously included on our passports).
They should all be able to get British PP's easily enough?
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Jeremy,
Is that married at the time of birth, or does marriage after the fact count? We weren't married when our sons were born, but got married when they were two years old just before we left the UK (they were born there - as were both of us and our parents). They are 20 now and have never had a British passport of their own, but were included on ours in the past.
My daughter was born after marriage but in Germany (in 1992) and was registered at the Consulate in Dusseldorf (also previously included on our passports).
They should all be able to get British PP's easily enough?
Is that married at the time of birth, or does marriage after the fact count? We weren't married when our sons were born, but got married when they were two years old just before we left the UK (they were born there - as were both of us and our parents). They are 20 now and have never had a British passport of their own, but were included on ours in the past.
My daughter was born after marriage but in Germany (in 1992) and was registered at the Consulate in Dusseldorf (also previously included on our passports).
They should all be able to get British PP's easily enough?
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That doesn't in itself confer automatic British citizenship if born between 1 January 1983 and 30 June 2006 to an unmarried British father, if the mother is not a British citizen or permanent resident.
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Jeremy,
Is that married at the time of birth, or does marriage after the fact count? We weren't married when our sons were born, but got married when they were two years old just before we left the UK (they were born there - as were both of us and our parents). They are 20 now and have never had a British passport of their own, but were included on ours in the past.
My daughter was born after marriage but in Germany (in 1992) and was registered at the Consulate in Dusseldorf (also previously included on our passports).
They should all be able to get British PP's easily enough?
Is that married at the time of birth, or does marriage after the fact count? We weren't married when our sons were born, but got married when they were two years old just before we left the UK (they were born there - as were both of us and our parents). They are 20 now and have never had a British passport of their own, but were included on ours in the past.
My daughter was born after marriage but in Germany (in 1992) and was registered at the Consulate in Dusseldorf (also previously included on our passports).
They should all be able to get British PP's easily enough?
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/doc...cy?view=Binary
But remember that they only need to even look at the father's status if the child isn't British based on the mother. For a UK-born child since 1983, if the mother is a British citizen or permanent resident, the child is automatically British irrespective of father's status.
Also important to bear in mind that if there is an unmarried father, and the only reason the child isn't British is that parents are not married, child can be registered as British provided application is made to the Home Office before child turns 18.
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