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Londonuck Aug 23rd 2011 1:40 am

This networking thingy in Toronto
 
Is it all networking to get a job? There appears to be tons of work but getting no replies to applications. Really friggin annoying!

dbd33 Aug 23rd 2011 1:47 am

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Originally Posted by Londonuck (Post 9577069)
Is it all networking to get a job? There appears to be tons of work but getting no replies to applications. Really friggin annoying!

I think that's largely true. One needs to meet people in one's line of business in a social setting and build on that. In our business, computing, a way forward is to find people who do similar work and get them into a pub. I know that's also true for some building trades. Alas, it's not quick.

TheBear Aug 23rd 2011 2:04 am

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The only way I got a job was to find a manager who was an immigrant himself and less likely to be biased towards Canadians (his last hire before me was an Aussie!)

dbd33 Aug 23rd 2011 2:09 am

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Originally Posted by TheBear (Post 9577119)
The only way I got a job was to find a manager who was an immigrant himself and less likely to be biased towards Canadians (his last hire before me was an Aussie!)


I can say categorically that there's no bias toward Canadians where I am now. I don't think I've ever worked in a place in Canada where there was a bias toward Canadians. Documented ethnic quotas, yes, preference for aboriginal Canadians, yes, personal prejudices made part of the hiring practise, yes, but bias toward Canadians, not in this business.

ireland2canada Aug 23rd 2011 2:47 am

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I have now had four jobs in Canada.

One was gained through 'networking', the rest through applying to ads.

One on Workopolis, one on Craigslist and one through an agency.

The moral of the story is....right time, right place, right job, and a bit of luck.

Aviator Aug 23rd 2011 3:10 am

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Originally Posted by Londonuck (Post 9577069)
Is it all networking to get a job? There appears to be tons of work but getting no replies to applications. Really friggin annoying!

That's the way it is in Canada, accept it, it is not going to change. Don't rely on one application, just keep sending them in. There seems to be some misconception of a bias toward Canadians when hiring, something I have never noticed in all the time I have been in country.

On your side of the coin one job may mean a lot, from the employer, you may be one of hundreds of applicants who get sifted through. Employers just want to fill a job, find the best applicant they can in the easiest and quickest way possible.

Building a network is not too hard, joining local clubs, churches, self help groups like Toastmasters, trade associations, building a social network, any of these can help get a job. One of my more fun jobs I got through something totally unrelated to my industry.

Souvy Aug 23rd 2011 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 9577256)
That's the way it is in Canada, accept it, it is not going to change. Don't rely on one application, just keep sending them in. There seems to be some misconception of a bias toward Canadians when hiring, something I have never noticed in all the time I have been in country.

On your side of the coin one job may mean a lot, from the employer, you may be one of hundreds of applicants who get sifted through. Employers just want to fill a job, find the best applicant they can in the easiest and quickest way possible.

Building a network is not too hard, joining local clubs, churches, self help groups like Toastmasters, trade associations, building a social network, any of these can help get a job. One of my more fun jobs I got through something totally unrelated to my industry.

Come off it. You were an airline pilot. That's like being a driller or geologist. Qualifications and experience are the only things that matter.

Londonuck Aug 23rd 2011 3:30 am

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Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9577204)
The moral of the story is....right time, right place, right job, and a bit of luck.

Yep.

Also, not what you know...

Only took 3 weeks in Vancouver in 98... and it was bordering on impossible then.

Right, chin up, is it beer time yet? :)

JamesM Aug 23rd 2011 4:14 am

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Originally Posted by Londonuck (Post 9577069)
Is it all networking to get a job? There appears to be tons of work but getting no replies to applications. Really friggin annoying!

Keep plugging away- bear in mind it is Labour Day soon and people should be more focused on work after that. My office has been like a Country Club since late July. I don't think much get's done in August at all.

We are hiring for 4 or 5 positions but I know that they have not reached out to anybody yet despite telling us they were hiring in late July.

It might be worth following up on some of your earlier summer apps in September.

If you are in Finance or a Developer personal message me. As long as you have the legal right to work in Canada I can try and help you out. I am desperately short of quality drinking buddys at my place. The last office party the CEO and myself bought 40 odd can's of beer and all the cradle's left it to me to drink..............

lmartin999 Aug 23rd 2011 4:44 am

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Did someone mention beer and Toronto?

CanadaJimmy Aug 23rd 2011 5:54 am

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Originally Posted by TheBear (Post 9577119)
The only way I got a job was to find a manager who was an immigrant himself and less likely to be biased towards Canadians (his last hire before me was an Aussie!)

I've encountered the same thing, my prospective employer (LMO is still processing) is an immigrant from Hong Kong.

You might also want to take a look at your resume. If it's presented well you'll get calls.

ExKiwilass Aug 23rd 2011 7:49 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 9577256)
That's the way it is in Canada, accept it, it is not going to change. Don't rely on one application, just keep sending them in. There seems to be some misconception of a bias toward Canadians when hiring, something I have never noticed in all the time I have been in country.On your side of the coin one job may mean a lot, from the employer, you may be one of hundreds of applicants who get sifted through. Employers just want to fill a job, find the best applicant they can in the easiest and quickest way possible.

Building a network is not too hard, joining local clubs, churches, self help groups like Toastmasters, trade associations, building a social network, any of these can help get a job. One of my more fun jobs I got through something totally unrelated to my industry.

I agree. I've been hired many times and no one gave a crap whether I was canadian or not, only that I had the right to work in Canada.

justme31170 Aug 23rd 2011 8:13 am

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Originally Posted by Londonuck (Post 9577069)
Is it all networking to get a job? There appears to be tons of work but getting no replies to applications. Really friggin annoying!

I know how you feel, but keep positive. Its the only way your gonna get through. We have sent out about 40 resume's and received 4 replies, but 4 is better than none so keep plugging away and someday someone will reply.

Good luck!

el_richo Aug 23rd 2011 8:19 am

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Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 9577705)
I agree. I've been hired many times and no one gave a crap whether I was canadian or not, only that I had the right to work in Canada.

You're right. I wonder if people sending resume's are including the text "I'M NOT A CANADIAN" at the top.

My resume has no indication of my nationality or the countries of my previous employment.

ExKiwilass Aug 23rd 2011 9:45 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 9577779)
You're right. I wonder if people sending resume's are including the text "I'M NOT A CANADIAN" at the top.

My resume has no indication of my nationality or the countries of my previous employment.

mine has a bit, so as a result I've got the are you staying here longterm or are you just on a working holiday visa question...which is funny cos I'm pretty old...but that's the only thing I've experienced.


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