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Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 11647912)
Two of my friend's kids are getting into pot smoking pretty seriously - it's really not considered a big deal here culturally
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Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by rivingtonpike
(Post 11647984)
It's all a matter o circumstance. As Oink said, income, education, location, social strata, all have a bearing on whether on country is better for your kids than another. In the UK we lived in a nice part of SW London, had good jobs, an Ofsted "outstanding" school for the kids (albeit they were very young). Modest 1800 sq ft house.
In Canada we live in a pleasant middle class neighbourhood, with little crime, lovely countryside and ocean. Much bigger house. Not such good jobs. Nice school - perhaps a little more laid back than they would now be in if still in the UK. Overall they have nice friends, seem to be in the "A" stream at school, ice home and gardens, generally safer environment. But they are missing out on the culture and history of England and Europe. We're happy here, but don't move here "for the kids" alone. |
Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Wetwang ...
I didn't know where that was. I had to look it up. S |
Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by DandNHill
(Post 11648374)
Yes Mr 21 is enjoying life to the full...yet he still has time for his Mum!!!! :wub:
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Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by Goodbhoy
(Post 11648740)
It has been an ambition of mine too actually see a real bear and a Moose when I am in Canada.
So far, I have seen a black squirrel! But these were when out travelling in the woods |
Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 11648799)
I heard the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver is the most drug infested place in the Western world. People sleep in shopping trolleys and everything.
As we drove home today there was a woman standing at the crosswalk injecting herself in the thigh. It is a harsh place to visit but bizarrely its quite safe for a visitor. I have a friend who was visiting from the Island and he ended up there with his two teenage kids. The guys on the street shouted that there were kids present and advised him not to come again. It was not a threat but gentle advice. What still shocks me is that a block either side are properties selling for millions of dollars. |
Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
I don't come on the Canada forum often, and I haven't written in it, I don't think, since we left 2 years ago.
We lived in NS for 6 very long years and now are back in England in one piece, mostly. I just wanted to come in and add my 2 cents worth. Read it, or don't it's up to you. I have to agree with PiffPoff. My eldest was 12 when we moved over there. I will say her teenage school years in Canada were hell. Firstly, we did partly move to canada for the kids. We truly believed they would be better there. We did originally choose ON but then were told about NS and how 'family friendly' it was. Yeah right. No teen drinking in Canada, really? It is true that they don't hang about on street corners, but they do hang out in eachothers basements. I got a call from my daughters boyfriend one night. They were about 15/16 drinking in his basement with friends. daughter drank too much and was rushed to hospital non responsive. Thought I lost her that night. Thankfully she recovered. She did continue drinking after this too, sometimes in a local park and sometimes in basements. Yes, drugs are huge too. Thankfully my daughter bypassed that although she smoked weed a few times. High school education; barely. So many kids drop out. The arguements in our house were horrendous trying to get daughter to go to school. At the last minute, my daughter knuckled down and got her diploma, by the skin of her teeth. The school can do nothing even though they are under 18. I use to drop my daughter every morning but she would just walk out when she wanted. It was just a nightmare. She knows people who are now almost 21 who are now going back to school just to get their diploma as they can't get work - go figure. School security use to scare me. No fences or gates, just walk in and accross school property as you wish. Scary; my ex boss dropped her 4 year old to elementary late one day. They walked in, down the hall, up the stairs and into the classrrom and nobody saw or stopped them. Teen pregnancies; huge! sitting outside the high school to collect daughter watching how many girls walked out pregnant. One of her friends younger sisters had a baby at 15. Her 3 best friends all have babies now and quite a few more are pregnant or have kids. One of them has 2 kids! I guess there is nothing else to do. I am just thankful I am not a grandmoher right now. One friend of hers who I knew of, use to cut her wrists and there were others. Daughter use to tell me the horror stories. Drink driving; yes, another acceptable social activity. I often went to parties where people got rat arsed and then thought nothing of getting in their car and driving home after. So, we are now in England and I am about to go through another teenage experience with my youngest. We are in a very nice area and generally find teens to be polite here. I have been shocked a few times actually with how polite they are :lol: I am hoping the experience will be a bit better, although I am under no illusions. Crap happens everywhere and I often wonder what she would have been like going through school in England. better, or worse? I have to say I am never emigrating again. Youngest will continue her school life here and then we may go off for short stints to the US or Europe or wherever husband can get contracts. But, I will always come back home. Just, please do not be fooled that life is better elsewhere. It really isn't. Same s**t, different Country. |
Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by Lorry1
(Post 11648994)
I don't come on the Canada forum often, and I haven't written in it, I don't think, since we left 2 years ago.
We lived in NS for 6 very long years and now are back in England in one piece, mostly. I just wanted to come in and add my 2 cents worth. Read it, or don't it's up to you. I have to agree with PiffPoff. My eldest was 12 when we moved over there. I will say her teenage school years in Canada were hell. Firstly, we did partly move to canada for the kids. We truly believed they would be better there. We did originally choose ON but then were told about NS and how 'family friendly' it was. Yeah right. No teen drinking in Canada, really? It is true that they don't hang about on street corners, but they do hang out in eachothers basements. I got a call from my daughters boyfriend one night. They were about 15/16 drinking in his basement with friends. daughter drank too much and was rushed to hospital non responsive. Thought I lost her that night. Thankfully she recovered. She did continue drinking after this too, sometimes in a local park and sometimes in basements. Yes, drugs are huge too. Thankfully my daughter bypassed that although she smoked weed a few times. High school education; barely. So many kids drop out. The arguements in our house were horrendous trying to get daughter to go to school. At the last minute, my daughter knuckled down and got her diploma, by the skin of her teeth. The school can do nothing even though they are under 18. I use to drop my daughter every morning but she would just walk out when she wanted. It was just a nightmare. She knows people who are now almost 21 who are now going back to school just to get their diploma as they can't get work - go figure. School security use to scare me. No fences or gates, just walk in and accross school property as you wish. Scary; my ex boss dropped her 4 year old to elementary late one day. They walked in, down the hall, up the stairs and into the classrrom and nobody saw or stopped them. Teen pregnancies; huge! sitting outside the high school to collect daughter watching how many girls walked out pregnant. One of her friends younger sisters had a baby at 15. Her 3 best friends all have babies now and quite a few more are pregnant or have kids. One of them has 2 kids! I guess there is nothing else to do. I am just thankful I am not a grandmoher right now. One friend of hers who I knew of, use to cut her wrists and there were others. Daughter use to tell me the horror stories. Drink driving; yes, another acceptable social activity. I often went to parties where people got rat arsed and then thought nothing of getting in their car and driving home after. So, we are now in England and I am about to go through another teenage experience with my youngest. We are in a very nice area and generally find teens to be polite here. I have been shocked a few times actually with how polite they are :lol: I am hoping the experience will be a bit better, although I am under no illusions. Crap happens everywhere and I often wonder what she would have been like going through school in England. better, or worse? I have to say I am never emigrating again. Youngest will continue her school life here and then we may go off for short stints to the US or Europe or wherever husband can get contracts. But, I will always come back home. Just, please do not be fooled that life is better elsewhere. It really isn't. Same s**t, different Country. |
Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by Goodbhoy
(Post 11648740)
It has been an ambition of mine too actually see a real bear and a Moose when I am in Canada.
So far, I have seen a black squirrel! |
Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11649004)
You seem to have had a horrendous experience in NS and no doubt similar environments exist accross Canada. However, it does depend on the area and the school. Would just add in the interests of balance that plenty of safe high attaining schools exist too.
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Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by DandNHill
(Post 11649215)
In rural NS weed was rife in the high school. The police turned a blind eye. Now here in ON, slightly less rural and with Toronto and Barrie influences the high school has apparently turned a new leaf. They had terrible drugs problems until about 2 years ago and now to combat this they have a full time police officer on site. Doesn't reassure me completely but I'm feeling more confident than at the school in NS. Just hoping too that son #3 doesn't succumb to peer pressure! :fingerscrossed:
Might not be a such bad thing if it results in a little less screen time. |
Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11649004)
You seem to have had a horrendous experience in NS and no doubt similar environments exist accross Canada. However, it does depend on the area and the school. Would just add in the interests of balance that plenty of safe high attaining schools exist too.
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Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Well we left Canada and part of that was my wife’s (Canadian High school teacher) lack of faith in the Canadian education system
On the Binge drinking.. I think it’s much lower in Canada, but that’s because so many drink and drive, and you don’t get to combine the two and live for very long, thus preventing the problem from growing Back in the UK with two kids now excelling in the UK education system |
Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by Piff Poff
(Post 11648478)
Are you saying I'm lying?
1) You were fed a load by those kids and you swallowed it whole. 2) The kids misunderstood what they were taught in school and you accepted their version without questioning it. In other words, they were taught that 'some people self harm as a means of relieving stress' and they understood it as 'you should self harm as a means of relieving stress'. It is not encouraged as a form of stress relief. Here is info from the Alberta Teacher's Association (see page #14): http://www.teachers.ab.ca/SiteCollec...20COOR-79e.pdf Alcohol and drugs were consumed at school by my daughters peers Drunk driving is still seen as socially acceptable in many areas, especially rurally. That is not exclusive to Canada as there are ignorant morons everywhere who drink and drive. My daughter and her best friend were talking about how many kids they were in middle school with have babies, it seems to be an achievement to have avoided teen pregnancy. My daughter is 20. Yeah, like there aren't teen pregnancies in Britain. Teen pregnancy is an issue everyhwere. |
Re: "Moving for the kids"... Experiences?
Originally Posted by Piff Poff
(Post 11648478)
Anyone who thinks life is all roses here needs a firm grip on reality, kids are not street wise, they are not taught how to deal with problems and are not equipped with how to deal with consequences. My daughter and her best friend were talking about how many kids they were in middle school with have babies, it seems to be an achievement to have avoided teen pregnancy. My daughter is 20. http://www.sieccan.org/pdf/TeenPregancy.pdf I think each country has it's pro's and con's for kids and a lot depends on the kids themselves, they may have done the same things where ever they lived. |
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