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Re: Moving back to UK
Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
(Post 8305288)
Hy Rico
Actually I do have a basis for my opinions - first one is I come from the South of England myself, (Bedfordshire), and contrary to belief - we are not all bad! Secondly, I have had the chance to live in another country I can say with hand on my heart - I am looking forward to going home. Wifey and me had two good jobs, family and friends, a new PT plus 2 new motorbikes. But we were being taxed out of our arseholes. If the government could tax you on something, they would find a way to do so. Our only option was to leave the UK and come to Canada. USA was in big trouble so we didnt want to go there and the other European countries are just as bad as England. But, I always had a job and never got laid off. Here I was laid off after 7 weeks of arriving here, and now I cannot work because of the stupid shits at CIC and there stupid LMO rules. Thank god our work permits are good till November, at least we can save some money to get out of here. Going back to the UK means I wont have to wait for 3 months of processing time when I need to change a job, I can drive on the correct side without ever having to dodge erratic pedestrians, and I can sit in my local and have a chat with the barman without some dizzy waitress bugging us about the quality of our Nachos which are quite "awesome!" (or is that awefull) :thumbdown::curse: So you've concluded that being taxed out of your arsehole is preferable to poor quality nachos and a left hand drive vehicle? LMO and work permit rules are pretty clear and unambiguous, so the risk you took emigrating under that system shouldn't really be something to gripe about. |
Re: Moving back to UK
Nachos I can take or leave - driving on the other side of the road is something I can and have gotten used to - hell, I passed my bike test in September. But for CIC to tell me I cannot work unless an employer has an LMO then demand proof I am looking for work, is just effing mind boggling.
CIC are issuing 75% fewer LMOs, effectively restricting us "foregn workers" from getting another job. They seem to have conveniently forgotten that it was us foreign workers that got them out the shit when they had a shortage of workers. Now the country has gone tits up, they are slamming the door in our face and turning their backs. They are nothing more than low life's, scum sucking low life's to be exact. And yes I am pissed off after just having been told for the 36th time I cannot work because the company have just been refused an LMO. WANKERS:curse::curse::curse::curse: |
Re: Moving back to UK - UPDATE
Originally Posted by canadiangrape
(Post 8299575)
Wow! I never knew there was so many unhappy people in the same situation. We have moved back to UK now I got a job within a week of being home earning as I thought twice the amount I was in Canada. I am very glad to be back where things make sense, Living in Vancouver was the most expensive thing I have ever done! Now to start remaking the money wasted on moving to such an unfriendly and one sided country.
Im so glad to be no longer in a situation where I should feel grateful for a job way beneath my qualifications and experience. My family are much happier now we are back and so is my wallet! To anyone thinking of moving to Canada, expect to work in a dead end job and get paid nothing and treated like dirt by Canadian employers. I agree that a lot of things don't make any sense here and I'd agree with the first two points about Canadian employers, but I can't complain at how they have treated me.
Originally Posted by Kiwilass
(Post 8302440)
Hmm. I see lots of Brits in senior management in this company :confused: Lots working in their profession, too. Maybe it depends what industry you're in.
FYI my brother has found the same as you in the UK. His qualifications aren't recognised and he's basically had to start again, finds it's who you know not what you know etc. etc. He's thinking of emigrating to Canada. I think it's a rough deal for anyone whose quals aren't recognised. I understand that comparisons need to be made and additional testing too, but to have to requalify from scratch for anything is completely unacceptable. The UK may have some industries where people may have problems, but they readily recognise quals on a much more frequent basis than here and that is even before you deal with any provinical/union idiosyncrasies. Your brother would be well advised to check out what he needs to do here, otherwise he may be jumping out of the preverbial frying pan into the fire. |
Re: Moving back to UK
Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
(Post 8305333)
Nachos I can take or leave - driving on the other side of the road is something I can and have gotten used to - hell, I passed my bike test in September. But for CIC to tell me I cannot work unless an employer has an LMO then demand proof I am looking for work, is just effing mind boggling.
CIC are issuing 75% fewer LMOs, effectively restricting us "foregn workers" from getting another job. They seem to have conveniently forgotten that it was us foreign workers that got them out the shit when they had a shortage of workers. Now the country has gone tits up, they are slamming the door in our face and turning their backs. They are nothing more than low life's, scum sucking low life's to be exact. And yes I am pissed off after just having been told for the 36th time I cannot work because the company have just been refused an LMO. So, in your opinion, temporary foreign workers should have the same access to work as permanent residents/citizens? I assume you'll take the same opinion back to the UK and apply it to the Eastern Europeans etc etc that would like access to jobs there? Shouldn't a country offer or preserve opportunities for its citizens first, before temporary foreign workers? You moved here for economic convenience, and now that's dried up you appear to be bitching about it. |
Re: Moving back to UK
oh, come on, for Gods sake..........!!!!
i just had to awake from my hibernation to answer this one! how can you say that youre going back just cos cheese and wine are expensive.....and all canadians are 2 faced?!!!!! seems to me that if youve such a blinkered attitude, then im afraid you are not in the right frame of mind to emigrate in the first place! many of you old hands on here will recall my rants and raves about canada, and move back we finally did, as you may know, but it wasnt cos we thought canadians were 2 faced.....in our case, it was deep seated family problems that caused our move back. and let me say here and now.....moving back is the worst decision we ever made and will most likely ever make in our lives! to those who are in the Uk now, you all know what the Uk has become, so moving back here? to what? forget the good ol' days of the england we all knew....those are long gone my dears......! seriously, i urge you to think not twice, but a hundred times before you make the decision to come back... it may well be the worst decision of your life, take it from me.............!!! :( |
Re: Moving back to UK
Okay - I can tell you I have the insight from both the UK and Canada so that gives me the right to express my opinions and if it is bitching, then so be it. The UK have no rules about when and how a foreign worker can work and what type of work he or she can do. They go to England legally or illegally but will always find work. And nobody bats an eyelid. England has its problems as well, go to Norwood - South London and you will be lucky if you see a white man. But I bet my last pound they will all have a job.
If you are so up on everything, then explain to me why I have to sit here with my thumb up my ass for the next ten months unable to work. I had an interview last Friday and was offered the job on a platter - but no, cant have that can we- CIC must have their pound of rotting flesh. Company was denied the LMO and about a dozen foreign workers must leave the company by June/July. Company had over 1500 applications from Canadians and foreign workers alike but HR Managaer has only found 2 that cut the mustard. Then once the Canadians realise they will be getting less than $15 an hour, they scurry back to their sewers, so he could well be closing down the machine shop after the next group of foreign workers are forced to leave the country. So much work but no one to do it - what a country. :banghead: |
Re: Moving back to UK
Originally Posted by R I C H
(Post 8305351)
So, in your opinion, temporary foreign workers should have the same access to work as permanent residents/citizens? I assume you'll take the same opinion back to the UK and apply it to the Eastern Europeans etc etc that would like access to jobs there?
Shouldn't a country offer or preserve opportunities for its citizens first, before temporary foreign workers? You moved here for economic convenience, and now that's dried up you appear to be bitching about it. I understand what you are saying about temporary foreign workers, but cut a little slack will you? If you had moved your entire family here after securing a work permit, got laid off after 7 weeks and have been given the runaround by CIC, I think you're entitled to be a bit miffed off. There is an inherent risk in doing this in the same way as work permit holders in the UK would have to secure a further permit to work for a different employer, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't suck for the person involved. |
Re: Moving back to UK - UPDATE
Originally Posted by brizzle
(Post 8305349)
I think it's a rough deal for anyone whose quals aren't recognised. I understand that comparisons need to be made and additional testing too, but to have to requalify from scratch for anything is completely unacceptable. The UK may have some industries where people may have problems, but they readily recognise quals on a much more frequent basis than here and that is even before you deal with any provinical/union idiosyncrasies. Your brother would be well advised to check out what he needs to do here, otherwise he may be jumping out of the preverbial frying pan into the fire. As to your second statement, I would like some evidence to back that up. That seems to be the widespread belief by some british expats, but my brother has found it to not be the case. It's quite funny actually - he says a lot of the same things BEs do - his foreign experience isn't recognised, he's bottom of the pile, quals not recognised etc. etc. BEs have an easier time in the UK because they come from there. Unless you're an immigrant to the UK I don't think you're in a position to judge whether the UK treats immigrants better than Canada, and even then, it's all anecdotal. |
Re: Moving back to UK
Perhaps you are right Brizzle, but this still doent explain away why the CIC dickheads are making life for us harder than it already is.
If I could obtain an open work permit for 10 months, I could at least work until the time comes where we can vacate this crap place once and for all. Do you think it's right to see your wife got to work in minus 20 and in a foot of snow while their other half can go back to bed? Whats the point of asking for a job that you are qualified to do when you know **** well what the answer is going to be. Duhhh, sorry no LMO. |
Re: Moving back to UK
Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
(Post 8305389)
Okay - I can tell you I have the insight from both the UK and Canada so that gives me the right to express my opinions and if it is bitching, then so be it. The UK have no rules about when and how a foreign worker can work and what type of work he or she can do. They go to England legally or illegally but will always find work. And nobody bats an eyelid. England has its problems as well, go to Norwood - South London and you will be lucky if you see a white man. But I bet my last pound they will all have a job.
If you are so up on everything, then explain to me why I have to sit here with my thumb up my ass for the next ten months unable to work. I had an interview last Friday and was offered the job on a platter - but no, cant have that can we- CIC must have their pound of rotting flesh. Company was denied the LMO and about a dozen foreign workers must leave the company by June/July. Company had over 1500 applications from Canadians and foreign workers alike but HR Managaer has only found 2 that cut the mustard. Then once the Canadians realise they will be getting less than $15 an hour, they scurry back to their sewers, so he could well be closing down the machine shop after the next group of foreign workers are forced to leave the country. So much work but no one to do it - what a country. :banghead: Really? If I rocked into the UK illegally I'd be able to get a job? Is that right? Maybe I should try that. |
Re: Moving back to UK
I'm not going to testify that each and every black person in the Uk is legal or an illegal, what I can say is that if you want to work, nobody - not even government will stop you.
Which is what I am bitching about. GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Here, the stupid pen pushers get off on telling you no, you cannot work MR. |
Re: Moving back to UK
hmm....your comments about not being able to see a single white man in Norwood is untrue, im afraid!
i frequently visit the area and see plenty of "white" people, although what kind and where from i couldnt really say.....! seems to me if your problem is that of people having different colour skins working in the uk, then, friend, you are liable to being labled a racist, for thoughts such as those belong to the right wing fringe, not on a forum such as this. sorry!
Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
(Post 8305389)
Okay - I can tell you I have the insight from both the UK and Canada so that gives me the right to express my opinions and if it is bitching, then so be it. The UK have no rules about when and how a foreign worker can work and what type of work he or she can do. They go to England legally or illegally but will always find work. And nobody bats an eyelid. England has its problems as well, go to Norwood - South London and you will be lucky if you see a white man. But I bet my last pound they will all have a job.
If you are so up on everything, then explain to me why I have to sit here with my thumb up my ass for the next ten months unable to work. I had an interview last Friday and was offered the job on a platter - but no, cant have that can we- CIC must have their pound of rotting flesh. Company was denied the LMO and about a dozen foreign workers must leave the company by June/July. Company had over 1500 applications from Canadians and foreign workers alike but HR Managaer has only found 2 that cut the mustard. Then once the Canadians realise they will be getting less than $15 an hour, they scurry back to their sewers, so he could well be closing down the machine shop after the next group of foreign workers are forced to leave the country. So much work but no one to do it - what a country. :banghead: |
Re: Moving back to UK
Hey Julius
Lets just square this up - firstly I am not racist, at least not until I came to Canada, and then only mildly racist :rofl:- having sat in a seminar two weeks with 63 other people, 61 being Asian, Colombian, Chinese, one has to ask: is Canada suffering an identity chrisis? YES :blink: Not often can we walk down Stephen's avenue and hear a Canadian, always Chinese or Asian. Do we feel like we are the odd ones out, YES Maybe its no wonder the Canadians are leaving Canada at the rate of 150,000 every week. I expect they are pissed off to. And to prove I am not a bad person Julius, check out Trovit for work in the UK. I get inundated with jobs being emailed for new positions. :thumbup: |
Re: Moving back to UK
Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
(Post 8305500)
Maybe its no wonder the Canadians are leaving Canada at the rate of 150,000 every week. I expect they are pissed off to.
Where's the bovine excretia smiley when you need it? |
Re: Moving back to UK
Originally Posted by julius smith
(Post 8305459)
... then, friend, you are liable to being labled a racist, for thoughts such as those belong to the right wing fringe, not on a forum such as this.
Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
(Post 8305500)
I am not racist
Not often can we walk down Stephen's avenue and hear a Canadian, always Chinese or Asian. Do we feel like we are the odd ones out, YES TBH the current UK rules for temporary foreign workers seem more stringent than Canada's. http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/workingintheuk/tier5/ |
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