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dboy Jan 15th 2010 5:56 am

Re: Vancouver (a few personal pros and cons)
 

Originally Posted by ork (Post 8251935)
It would be lovely to have a watering hole within walking distance of the house - sadly, there is not even a Cactus Club close-by. We are between Marpole and Kerrisdale (closer to Marpole), so there are restaurants within striking distance but it is not the same as having a neighbourhood bar/pub.

*grin* Apologies, I didn't intend to make myself sound like a fashion afficionado! I am really not. I think that I might be the kind of person who has a tendancy to make most fashionable outfits look, well...frumpy? So I guess that I've learned to stick with some basic things that do not make me feel awkward. I have found that quite a lot of the fashion here, at least in the shops near us, is Asian influenced. I think that the fashions are really cool but they do not suit me at all.

Btw, it has not helped that I've truly blimped since my arrival in Vancouver and I needed wardrobe basics in bigger sizes. I looked, tried things on, winced and fled - in the end, it was just easier to wait until I got home and was able to shop exactly where I knew I would find what I needed. It took me about an hour to sort myself out.

Marpole is an odd place, I'm trying to think of something good to say.... close to the airport? Kerrisdale is ok, nice (pricey) houses, a few good restaurants and that, but not much going on. I lived there for a year or so.

ExKiwilass Jan 15th 2010 5:59 am

Re: Vancouver (a few personal pros and cons)
 

Originally Posted by ork (Post 8252052)


I am definitely stuck in the 'burbs. Of the souless variety. I did meet some of my neighbours when we were digging our cars out of the snow last winter and almost gave them heart attacks when I introduced myself. Unfortunately, most sightings of neighbours melted pretty much away with the snow.

If downtown is too expensive to live, what do people think of Strathcona? I've walked around there a few times and went to the Eastside Cultural Crawl and it feels like it has a sense of community and is a mix of young families, shared houses, students etc.



Yeah, honestly, I would not recommend southwest or southeast Van to anyone. We looked in that area at one point and I found it exactly as you did - eerily quiet, like everyone was sleeping in coffins indoors and not much in the way of shops etc. walking distance.

Which goes to show even Van has it's soul-less aspects.

I LOVE strathcona but you need to be willing to live with bleed-over from the downtown eastside. $$$ though. I would live there in a heartbeat but OH was opposed :(

If you're looking within 20 mins drive of DT my neighbourhood is good too. (Vancouver/Burnaby Heights) *shameless plug*

dboy Jan 15th 2010 6:05 am

Re: Vancouver (a few personal pros and cons)
 

Originally Posted by ork (Post 8252052)
Only over 3 months - are you sure?! It feels like it rains here pretty much everyday between October and March! ;)

I thought that I was ready for the rain (my husband, then bf, told me how much it rains here but I thought he was exaggerating) but I just wasn't prepared (it turns out that he did not exagerate). I have never suffered from SAD in the past but after last/this autumn-spring period, I am thinking of getting one of those bloomin' lamps!



I am definitely stuck in the 'burbs. Of the souless variety. I did meet some of my neighbours when we were digging our cars out of the snow last winter and almost gave them heart attacks when I introduced myself. Unfortunately, most sightings of neighbours melted pretty much away with the snow.

If downtown is too expensive to live, what do people think of Strathcona? I've walked around there a few times and went to the Eastside Cultural Crawl and it feels like it has a sense of community and is a mix of young families, shared houses, students etc.



I think that it is possible to find what you need but I find it more of a treasure hunt. I am not saying that this is a bad thing, it is just different. I do not find it a one-stop shop experience at Safeway, in the way that I used to hit Sainsburys/Tesco for a weekly shop. Instead, depending on what's going on - we pick up things from a variety of different places to ensure that we have everything we need.

Also, it seems to me that availability of fruit and veg is more strongly linked to what's in season locally/California - I do not think that's a bad thing at all. E.g. sweetcorn in sweetcorn season. In the UK, we've got used to everything being available all year around because it's been zoomed in from somewhere else.

No I wasn't suggeting it only rains for three months, I was explaining the nature of the rain. with nov through feb being the wettest months, outside of those months, the rain's not bad. I'd sum it up something like this:

4 months crap (winter and late fall)
2 months not bad at all (early spring)
1 month very nice (late spring)
5 months outstanding (summer and early fall)

I personally don't care much for the rainy season here and try to get away. Skiing seems to give some a different perspective. It really is no different than Manchester through the winter. Summer makes up for the rainy season. You get used to it.

brizzle Jan 15th 2010 6:14 am

Re: Vancouver (a few personal pros and cons)
 

Originally Posted by dboy (Post 8252167)
5 months outstanding (summer and early fall)

Maybe last year, as it was outstanding. Previously year it was bloody miserable, cold and rainy up to and including June. Jul & Aug were better.

Last summer was possibly the best summer on record here, I don't think you could rely on 5 outstanding months during summer/fall here every year.

ExKiwilass Jan 15th 2010 6:19 am

Re: Vancouver (a few personal pros and cons)
 

Originally Posted by brizzle (Post 8252195)
Maybe last year, as it was outstanding. Previously year it was bloody miserable, cold and rainy up to and including June. Jul & Aug were better.

Last summer was possibly the best summer on record here, I don't think you could rely on 5 outstanding months during summer/fall here every year.

that's the thing about the weather. you can never rely on it ;)

dboy Jan 15th 2010 6:22 am

Re: Vancouver (a few personal pros and cons)
 

Originally Posted by brizzle (Post 8252195)
Maybe last year, as it was outstanding. Previously year it was bloody miserable, cold and rainy up to and including June. Jul & Aug were better.

Last summer was possibly the best summer on record here, I don't think you could rely on 5 outstanding months during summer/fall here every year.

These are of course generalizations, and yes vancouver is a rainly place. Rain during the summer though, is the exception. I;m basing my views on 17 years here, not the last 2. A bit of rain here and there doesn't bother me, its the kind we are getting now that I hate.

I do find that summer is a bit out of sync, with sept being one of the more dependable months and october sometimes being nice. Nov 1 though its like a garden hose is turned on - never fails it seems.

I'm not suggesting that Vancouver has great weather, but outside of late fall and winter, it doesn't bother me at all. I can't think of a particularly bad summer since I've been here, but yes, last year was exceptional.

Either way - major improvement over manchester.

ork Jan 15th 2010 8:06 am

Re: Vancouver (a few personal pros and cons)
 

Originally Posted by dboy (Post 8252167)
Skiing seems to give some a different perspective. It really is no different than Manchester through the winter. Summer makes up for the rainy season. You get used to it.

I was being lighthearted about the weather - apologies. Dead on though November 1st - hosepipe! I hope that I will get used to it as I think that I am going to have to stay in Vancouver for at least the next 5 years.

I ski but my husband doesn't. Neither does his son - they are not interested at all. My husband loves sailing and my stepson is glued to his PS3. Oddly, that seems to have made it impossible to get anywhere near the mountains so far. I haven't taken off to ski on my own as it seems quite expensive. I have not worked for over a year now (my PR did not come through until Christmas) so I have been trying to conserve my funds until I am working again. Maybe it will be more possible in the next ski season.

ork Jan 15th 2010 8:19 am

Re: Vancouver (a few personal pros and cons)
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 8252139)
If you're looking within 20 mins drive of DT my neighbourhood is good too. (Vancouver/Burnaby Heights) *shameless plug*

Yep, Strathcona was the first place I went to that felt like places I have lived in the past. Not affluent, a feeling of community and a real mixture of different people. I like it over there.

I doubt we'll be moving though - my husband has had this house for about 20 years and his mother's house (where he grew up) is about 2 blocks away. I need to make the best of where we are now.

Kerrisdale is okay but I'm not sure that I'd want to spend a whole evening in the Cheshire Cheese Inn..? There's a neighbourhood pub over on Dunbar but that's a drive. As mentioned, about the only thing that you can say about Marpole is that it is convenient for the airport.

That is, unless we fancy hanging out in the Fraser Arms, which - from the leaflets that the police distributed - was one of the places that a drug dependent prostitute used to hang out before she was found floating in the Fraser River back in July. It is not necessarily my first choice of nightspot!

dboy Jan 15th 2010 11:00 am

Re: Vancouver (a few personal pros and cons)
 

Originally Posted by ork (Post 8252475)
I was being lighthearted about the weather - apologies. Dead on though November 1st - hosepipe! I hope that I will get used to it as I think that I am going to have to stay in Vancouver for at least the next 5 years.

I ski but my husband doesn't. Neither does his son - they are not interested at all. My husband loves sailing and my stepson is glued to his PS3. Oddly, that seems to have made it impossible to get anywhere near the mountains so far. I haven't taken off to ski on my own as it seems quite expensive. I have not worked for over a year now (my PR did not come through until Christmas) so I have been trying to conserve my funds until I am working again. Maybe it will be more possible in the next ski season.

No need to apologise, I wasn;t offended. It's hard moving somewhere, making new friends, finding new haunts etc, and its very different to the UK. I've found that people tend to go out for dinner and then back to someone' gaff, rather than hanging out in the local.

Too bad you are not closer into town. My friend bought the old Campoverde social in Kits (forget the new name), which is a great place to meet people. Its very much like a pub in that regard.

On the north shore, where there are tons of Brits it seems, i've found a couple of spots that are very British - teh rusty gull and the queens. Funny thing is that i've gotten out of the habit, I rarely go for a pint anymore, although i never really was much of a drinker.

I dated a girl who lived on marine drive and we never did anything down there, always came down my end. Can't think of a single pub around there.

You and your hubby should try popping out for a social through this:

http://www.meetup.com/BritishExpat/

Vancouver is an odd place and can be tough to break into, an you are right it's just an average city with a nice garden as brizzle rightly put it in the past.

sarah75 Jan 17th 2010 2:31 am

Re: Moving back to UK
 

Originally Posted by canadiangrape (Post 8188263)
Me and my family have decided to move back, Canada is way too expensive and I can get twice the wage I get here back in the UK. I have had enough of paying 20 dollars for a bad bottle of wine and 10 dollars for very small piece of cheese. I also find that the Canadians are very two faced and really cant be trusted. After moving here I think that life is better in the UK.

Whereabouts in Canada are you ? and where in the UK are you going back to ?

DigitalGhost Jan 17th 2010 8:27 pm

Re: Moving back to UK
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8251666)
If you're looking to travel BC while you're there, lack of driving ability could limit you a tad.

How expensive are local public transport systems and long distance bus/train trips over there?

I remember using Amtrak in the US a few times and that was quite expensive, although I did go from Providence to NYC for around $35 by train which wasn't too bad, but I was always told that the greyhound buses were much cheaper.

el_richo Jan 17th 2010 10:51 pm

Re: Moving back to UK
 

Originally Posted by DigitalGhost (Post 8258377)
How expensive are local public transport systems and long distance bus/train trips over there?

I remember using Amtrak in the US a few times and that was quite expensive, although I did go from Providence to NYC for around $35 by train which wasn't too bad, but I was always told that the greyhound buses were much cheaper.

I've never used public transport other than BC Ferries and Aquabus so couldn't tell you i'm afraid.

As far as i'm aware, other than the West Coast Express (with very very restricted service) i don't know of any other train service that could be used as public transport.

DigitalGhost Jan 17th 2010 10:55 pm

Re: Moving back to UK
 
No worries, thanks anyway :)

I actually got my Bunac welcome pack yesterday, they had sent it to my family's address by mistake so I was reading through their handbook, it all seems a little more daunting now to be honest.

smgwh01 Jan 17th 2010 10:56 pm

Re: Moving back to UK
 

Originally Posted by sarah.lazell (Post 8256446)
Whereabouts in Canada are you ? and where in the UK are you going back to ?

We have been in Nova Scotia for 6 months now. the companies in the Uk now too busy employing cheap labour from the old eastern bloc countries they are laying off British workers and employing people from the Eastern bloc my wife and I have first hand knowlrdge of this.nearly everybody you talk to over 40 now wants to get out, Yes it is very expensive in Nova scotia even for day to day things like food etc but we have a house on the ocean about 45 mins out from Halifax. It hasn't been easy but overall we are happier in Canada than the UK

el_richo Jan 17th 2010 11:02 pm

Re: Moving back to UK
 

Originally Posted by smgwh01 (Post 8258794)
We have been in Nova Scotia for 6 months now. the companies in the Uk now too busy employing cheap labour from the old eastern bloc countries they are laying off British workers and employing people from the Eastern bloc my wife and I have first hand knowlrdge of this.nearly everybody you talk to over 40 now wants to get out, Yes it is very expensive in Nova scotia even for day to day things like food etc but we have a house on the ocean about 45 mins out from Halifax. It hasn't been easy but overall we are happier in Canada than the UK

That's weird, i've just been hired for a new contract in the UK and i'm English.


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