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fireranger4 Jan 15th 2012 5:11 am

Moving To Alberta
 
Hi guys

Im new to the forum so i have a few questions if people dont mind taking the time answer id be very grateful

i have applied and got conformation back of a job offer in alberta(edmonton area)

i have done a lot of research and got plenty of emails from the company mentioned but id like a second opinion

i have applied for my uk police clearance document and got it back,i have applied for a trade certificate in my field of work (pipefitting) from the AIT (alberta's Apprenticeship and Industry Training) and im just waiting on word back

Once i get word back i have to email a copy of the letter to the company then in turn thats when they give me written word and confirmation of a start date for my new job

i know i have to sit a red seal exam in the the trade within 6 months i get 2 chances to pass i think

is there anything else im looking past or think i should need to do before i fly out????

Also on arrival at port of entry i am issued with my work permit i believe,as my wife isnt travelling with me until few months later i was wondering how we go get her on my work permit as she is my spouse and entitled to an open permit to work threw mine.

any people out there with simliar experiences could help me out

cheers
james

Stu_g2004 Jan 15th 2012 6:07 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
im assuming you have an LMO? does your trade require one?
if so your wife needs a copy of it to get her SOWP

fireranger4 Jan 15th 2012 6:18 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
they are running a pilot program until may 31st 2012 in alberta atm that pipefitters do not need an LMO from an employer

i plan to get my workpermit at port of entry in feb when i travel but my wife isnt coming till end of march and travelling alone will she be able to get her open work permit at port of entry with a copy of my permit. If im not there do you know if this will be an issue

Stu_g2004 Jan 15th 2012 7:17 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
I honestly don't know in your case.
I've just received my LMO (hgv mechanic) and I know that my wife can get her work permit with a copy of my LMO when she arrives after me at POE.
I've never heard of this pilot scheme so unfortunately I cant give you any advice.

fireranger4 Jan 15th 2012 7:34 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
no worrys thanks for your input anyway

http://employment.alberta.ca/documen...steam-pipe.pdf

thats the link the employer pointed me towards when was emailing them

stevie_m Jan 16th 2012 6:51 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
Hello James,

By any chance have you been offered a job by Kiewit ?

Only reason I'm asking because I am in exact same boat.

I wouldn't be bringing anyone right now if your going under the TFW and CLAC banner

Former Lancastrian Jan 16th 2012 7:13 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 

Originally Posted by fireranger4 (Post 9843567)
they are running a pilot program until may 31st 2012 in alberta atm that pipefitters do not need an LMO from an employer

i plan to get my workpermit at port of entry in feb when i travel but my wife isnt coming till end of march and travelling alone will she be able to get her open work permit at port of entry with a copy of my permit. If im not there do you know if this will be an issue

It wont be an issue for her to get a TWP later on providing she is eligible to apply for one. Just send her a copy of your WP and she can show that the BSO on entry. I also suggest you supply her with the pertinent info where it states she is eligible for a TWP as this is a pilot project and not all BSO's at all POE's might be aware of this. She can pay the $150 fee with any major credit card.

stevie_m Jan 16th 2012 7:26 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
The TFW is a very shaky nail.

If your going to work under CLAC and the TFW permit, the company you will be working for only need to give you 48hrs notice of being paid off and because your not allowed to transfer jobs you would need to go back home to apply for a new job.

fireranger4 Jan 16th 2012 8:43 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 9846133)
It wont be an issue for her to get a TWP later on providing she is eligible to apply for one. Just send her a copy of your WP and she can show that the BSO on entry. I also suggest you supply her with the pertinent info where it states she is eligible for a TWP as this is a pilot project and not all BSO's at all POE's might be aware of this. She can pay the $150 fee with any major credit card.

Do you think it will be better for her to apply for her work permit here and go through the canadian embasy in london....ill be able to email all details and forms home so she can send of with her application.it wold save any hassle at POE me thinks


stevie_m



Hello James,

By any chance have you been offered a job by Kiewit ?

Only reason I'm asking because I am in exact same boat.

I wouldn't be bringing anyone right now if your going under the TFW and CLAC banner
I am still waiting on the trade certificate to come back from the AAIT, the company i have been in contact with is called flint energy services

just wondering what CLAC is. Dont think i heard of it to be honest

stevie_m Jan 16th 2012 8:47 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
Christian Labour almost like a union.

Was it directly with Flint ?

My papers took a while to come back pretty sure it was a month

Former Lancastrian Jan 16th 2012 8:48 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 

Originally Posted by fireranger4 (Post 9846376)
Do you think it will be better for her to apply for her work permit here and go through the canadian embasy in london....ill be able to email all details and forms home so she can send of with her application.it wold save any hassle at POE me thinks



I am still waiting on the trade certificate to come back from the AAIT, the company i have been in contact with is called flint energy services

just wondering what CLAC is. Dont think i heard of it to be honest

Personally I would suggest the TWP at the POE is easier as no sending off applications, documents etc that could get lost in the mail and waiting for the mailman. Book a flight, she gets off and asks for a TWP pretty straightforward in my books.

fireranger4 Jan 16th 2012 9:03 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
@former lancastrain.....thats great any people i have been in contact with have also told me thats the best way to do things but i want to make sure i cover all angles

@stevie_m......i have no idea about unions and stuff at the minute, i have been in direct contact with flints TFW co-ordinator and once i get the approval letter i need to contact her again, then thats when she can talk to me about start dates etc so i can book flight's then

stevie_m Jan 16th 2012 9:06 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
I've been offered a job with Kiewit but I'm keeping my options open. Supposed to be away at the end of Feb.

Any chance you could pass on the email address to the lady ?

fireranger4 Jan 16th 2012 9:12 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
yeah most certainly, there mostly based northern alberta in fort mcmurray i believe

<Snipped by mod, perhaps you could send the details by Private message, to save her getting aton of spam>


also check out www.jobbank.gc.ca they have advertised loads of jobs,loads of work coming up

are you traveling yourself or you got the girl/wife in tow aswell?

fireranger4 Jan 16th 2012 9:37 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
sent by PM to stevie there

stevie_m Jan 16th 2012 9:42 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
I would love to bring my wife n kids but I'd only bring them once I have my Red Seal and know the job is safe. The bad thing about TFW is once your job is finished or they no longer need you, you NEED to leave asap.

I'd def bring my wife and kids once I have the Red Seal. The company I'm going with Kiewit are supposed to be putting my through the PR which is a massive plus.

Thanks for the PM

fireranger4 Jan 16th 2012 1:06 pm

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
i have read that if you do not pass the red seal within the 6months that they offer you a chance to go to school to learn the trade in a class when your on your down days

dont know how true this is but im tryin to find out about it atm

christmasoompa Jan 16th 2012 10:14 pm

Re: Moving To Alberta
 

Originally Posted by stevie_m (Post 9846501)
I would love to bring my wife n kids but I'd only bring them once I have my Red Seal and know the job is safe. The bad thing about TFW is once your job is finished or they no longer need you, you NEED to leave asap.

Just to correct this, you don't have to leave Canada until your TWP expires, which may be a year or two after losing your job. However, you cannot work at all unless you got a new LMO/TWP.

HTH.

:)

fireranger4 Jan 16th 2012 11:05 pm

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
you have a year permit originally i think and u have a year to pass the test...its a theroy test i got a test paper's if you need me to send the link to it

imoutofhere Jan 17th 2012 7:28 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
Hi guys, I'm living in Alberta after going through the immigration process. I was just curious to find out about this new pilot scheme as I know a friend that would like to come over. I am also a pipefitter and done my red seal... If there is anything I can help you with, Just give me a shout... Cheers

stevie_m Jan 17th 2012 7:30 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
What you could do is tell me if you came on the TFW permit ?

And if so when and how long did it take for you to get your PR ?

fireranger4 Jan 17th 2012 8:38 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 

Originally Posted by imoutofhere (Post 9848529)
Hi guys, I'm living in Alberta after going through the immigration process. I was just curious to find out about this new pilot scheme as I know a friend that would like to come over. I am also a pipefitter and done my red seal... If there is anything I can help you with, Just give me a shout... Cheers

is the test for the red seal hard??

also was there any text books or resource material you used to help you study...im kinda panicing incase i dont pass and end up having to come home after a year :(

stevie_m Jan 17th 2012 8:40 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
There is a thing called the pipefitters handbook that is pretty much a good heads up.

fireranger4 Jan 17th 2012 8:44 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
yeah i have an 1980 one of them lol and i got a new one few months back,i wrote to the red seal people and they sent me out some info on what is involved in the test also and the break down of it

but they said there is an actual book that follows the test so i was thinking along them lines to get it and make sure

the only thing i never had much experience is steam work and it is the biggest part of the test.....17% of the marks is on steam.....u need 70% to pass

stevie_m Jan 17th 2012 8:59 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
I'm not sweating it because you'll learn a lot on site anyways and if you knuckle down and do an hour or two when you get back to the room it will be made a lot easier

imoutofhere Jan 17th 2012 12:06 pm

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
Hi, Yeah I went through the twp about 6 years a go. It was Flint that employed me and helped me get my red seal... I have been bouncing back and forward between UK and Canada ever since on twp's for various companies. It was a couple of years a go when I got laid off and had to go home that I appied for immigration which took around 20 months from start to finnish... Been here about 10 months now as a resident. Loads of work here and money seems to be better. Cheers

fireranger4 Jan 20th 2012 4:57 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
just got AIT approvel letter :)

off to contact the company now :):):):):):):)

stevie_m Jan 21st 2012 6:15 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 

Originally Posted by fireranger4 (Post 9854913)
just got AIT approvel letter :)

off to contact the company now :):):):):):):)


I have the TFW liaison officers email for Kiewit if you fancy it buddy.

fireranger4 Jan 21st 2012 6:58 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
yeah pass it on surely

no harm in keeping the options open

thanks

fireranger4 Jan 24th 2012 9:45 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
just wondering if anyone can let me know how they got on this matter

i got AIT letter today in the post,i contacted the employer i have been in contact with

she said she is gonna draw me up a letter of employment,i emailed her a copy of the AIT letter

she said she will get back to me soon...

how long has anyone had to wait for this employment letter to be sorted....is it posted out or do u just get it emailed to you then you print it off for your work permit

thanks

stevie_m Jan 24th 2012 7:23 pm

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
Well I got my letter way back in October mate and I'm still here, I hope your still in work or they hurry up the process to get you there.

fireranger4 Jan 24th 2012 8:38 pm

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
i have been stitting on the sofa scratching since end of november

only good thing my good is fat as hell now lol

fireranger4 Jan 25th 2012 10:52 pm

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
job offer recieved :)

have to sit a CSTS safety test and do a drug and alcohol test when arrived

also have to get my SIN number and sign up for a health card thingy and open a bank account

anyone have any suggestions for anything else i might need to look into?

Former Lancastrian Jan 26th 2012 1:03 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
This might be of use
http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/publications/d...d2-1-1-eng.pdf

BTW the drug and alcohol test isnt designed to see how much you can drink or smoke up;)

fireranger4 Jan 26th 2012 1:12 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 9866587)
This might be of use
http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/publications/d...d2-1-1-eng.pdf

BTW the drug and alcohol test isnt designed to see how much you can drink or smoke up;)

dam :(

thanks for that link good job so it is

Former Lancastrian Jan 26th 2012 1:18 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 

Originally Posted by fireranger4 (Post 9866603)
dam :(

thanks for that link good job so it is

God is that you Jim McDonald ?
p.s. someone might suggest that you are missing London at the beginning :lol:

fireranger4 Jan 26th 2012 2:51 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
mmmmmmm

depends what foot you kick the ball with :p

fireranger4 Jan 26th 2012 9:03 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
hey guys dont know if anyone can answer this for me

every flight i have priced and looked at seems to be landing in edmonton international from maybe 5pm local time till 1-2am

if i land there and im looking for my work permit will this be problem or will it be better to try land office hrs to make it easier to get the permit

anyone with experience in this matter ur input will be very gratefull

Former Lancastrian Jan 26th 2012 11:13 am

Re: Moving To Alberta
 
As far as Im aware Edmonton is 24/7 for CBSA operations.
Landing before midnight should not be a problem for issuance of a TWP.


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