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welshyshelly Dec 4th 2003 7:02 am

mothers!
 
we are still in the process of deciding if canada is for us or not.
just a quick question, myself, my partner and my 2 children would be emmigrating, but as i lost my father early this year i would hate to leave my mum behind, would she be able to come with us as one of our dependants (shes 66years old).

Thanks in advance for any help
shelly

crazydaisy Dec 4th 2003 4:32 pm

I looked at the guidelines at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applica...ides/EG74.html which states that "A family member is a spouse, common-law partner or dependent child included in your application." I think 'mum' may not be classed as a family member at the time of application, but once you've landed and gained your PR status then you'd be able to sponsor her via family class, which only takes a couple of months and meanwhile she can visit on a visit waiver for a few months. The family sponsor details can be found at: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/index.html

Hope that's a help! :)

Spongebob Dec 5th 2003 3:28 pm

Actually in order to sponser your mum, you need to meet a certain income threshold, plus you have to prove that you obtained the correct income 12 months prior to sending in the application, so it takes longer than a couple of months. So basically you will have to wait a year before you can submit the application, assuming that you meet the income threshold.

Phil

Tom Masters Dec 5th 2003 10:28 pm

We are planning on sponsoring my mum from within Canada as she will be there on a student visa. As far as I can tell it is possible to do this although it is a bit unusual!! Any thoughts?

Chris

wizzard Dec 6th 2003 5:11 am

You would do that in the same way as a regular one, she would just happen to be resideing in Canada. So you'd fill in the forms and do all the additional things and file the application with CPC Mississauga and they would then decide whether or not to approve you as a sponsor. Assuming all that went well they would send the files to CHC London. They would then issue an AOR to your mother via her Canadian address and you can basically do everything in Canada including medicals etc. The only thing you cannot do in Canada is an interview. So if an interview was required she would have to go to CHC London for the interview. Other than than that she can correspond with London from Canada and send her passport in from Canada etc. To land she would leave Canada at the border (if convienient) with the US and then simply turn around and reenter Canada, otherwise she'd have to leave and return. Lots of people do this who apply for PR and are already in Canada on work permits or student permits.

What you can't do is apply via the true inland route that spouses use where everything is processed in Canada, only spouses can do that or parents in exceptional humanitarian circumstances etc.

The two hardest parts for parents is aquiring the income in 12 months you need to qualify as you can only include actual earned income in Canada, you can't count potential income or savings etc etc. The other is passing the medical, especially if the parents are more elderly as certain health problems might bar them from being approved.

Drew

Tom Masters Dec 6th 2003 5:37 am

Thanks Drew!

That has put my mind at rest. Her course will last for two years. We will be going over in April and Mum starts her course in September so hopefully we will have enough time to earn the required amount of income and get the application processed before the end of her course.

Thankfully she should pass the medical at the moment. Fingers crossed she will still be in good health when it comes to do the medical!

Chris

Tom Masters Dec 6th 2003 5:50 am

I've just thought of one more question! My mum should have her letter of approval from the CHC before we leave in April and she is planning to come over with us then. Do you think they will give her the student visa then or will she have to 'cross the flagpole' closer to the start of her course in September?

Chris

crazydaisy Dec 6th 2003 10:24 am


Originally posted by Spongebob
Actually in order to sponser your mum, you need to meet a certain income threshold, plus you have to prove that you obtained the correct income 12 months prior to sending in the application, so it takes longer than a couple of months. So basically you will have to wait a year before you can submit the application, assuming that you meet the income threshold.

Phil
By saying it takes a couple of months I meant the visa processing takes a couple of months for family class, according to some others who've done that. Sorry to mislead! :D

Spongebob Dec 6th 2003 10:26 am

No problem :}

crazydaisy Dec 6th 2003 10:40 am


Originally posted by crazydaisy
By saying it takes a couple of months I meant the visa processing takes a couple of months for family class, according to some others who've done that. Sorry to mislead! :D
Addendum - actually I think I'll be in touch with the clinical psychologist soon 'cos where I got a couple of months from I don't know must be getting confused with something else! (Think it's more like 6 months for family class but still quicker than normal PR.) I noticed that the idea of sponsorship is that you would support your family member while they find work hence the need for a certain amount of income before you can apply for family sponsorship. How would that work if you're sponsoring a retired person like Shelly's mum?

Spongebob Dec 6th 2003 11:36 am

No difference. Still have to meet a certain income.

For us which is 2 adults and one child wanting to sponsor two parents reaching retirement is $39000 last time I looked.

The same even if they where retired.

The same even if they had stacks of money.

crazydaisy Dec 6th 2003 1:48 pm


Originally posted by Spongebob
No difference. Still have to meet a certain income.

For us which is 2 adults and one child wanting to sponsor two parents reaching retirement is $39000 last time I looked.

The same even if they where retired.

The same even if they had stacks of money.
Eeeks - that's a fair chunk of cash. :o

Spongebob Dec 6th 2003 3:57 pm

Thats yearly income not a lump sum.

Basically the more people in your family the more income you need, plus the more people you sponsor the more income you need as well.

Although your spouse can contribute to that income as well.

You usually need to sponsor them for 10 years although that is not true for all cases.

welshyshelly Dec 7th 2003 7:09 am

Thanks daisy was just going to ask that

dingbat Dec 8th 2003 6:03 pm


Originally posted by Spongebob
Thats yearly income not a lump sum.

Basically the more people in your family the more income you need, plus the more people you sponsor the more income you need as well.

Although your spouse can contribute to that income as well.

You usually need to sponsor them for 10 years although that is not true for all cases.
It's three years now :cool:


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