Millstone of United Canada
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by kingfisher241049
If any province were to cecede, given the history of Quebec and its threats to do so, it is likely that that province would be Quebec.
Originally Posted by kingfisher241049
A French Canadian may have been Prime Minister of Canada, so what?
Originally Posted by kingfisher241049
Most French Canadians would consider themselves allied with France than they would with Belgium.
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by Daedra
I notice you didn't tell kingfisher that he was in error in thinking you were a stalker though hee hee hee
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by kingfisher241049
If any province were to cecede, given the history of Quebec and its threats to do so, it is likely that that province would be Quebec. A French Canadian may have been Prime Minister of Canada, so what? Means diddly squat. Most French Canadians would consider themselves allied with France than they would with Belgium.
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by Souvenir
Most French Canadians couldn't find find France on a map and have little or no interest in trying to.
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by dbd33
I didn't bother with it because it was a personal attack irrelevant to the issue.
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Well I didn't think he was attacking you DB, thought it was a funny remark if you re-read your post with the insinuated inflections on your opening statement, it did sound like you'd been hunting for Kingfisher... oh pah, once explained it's not as funny anymore CHEERS
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by dbd33
but could they find Belgium?
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
I've just up to page one on this thread but had to pass it on to my Canadian husband. Looking forward to his joining in your little discussion. I'm not qualified to but as a Canadian, he is. He's also already a member of BE.
Originally Posted by windward
Leading on from what I just read in the dual citizenship thread...
I didn't realise the Newfies wanted out too (know all about the Quebecois urge to escape.) What is it so many Canadians dislike that much about being together in a Federal Canada?
AFAIK Ontario is the fiscal powerhouse of the country (maybe Alberta close behind or maybe now ahead with commodity prices being the way they are) and I understood that from a provincial point of view Ontarian taxpayers 'subsidise' the other provinces to a certain extent...
Surely then they should be the ones wanting out?!?!
Makes no sense to me... Maybe someone will enlighten me?
I didn't realise the Newfies wanted out too (know all about the Quebecois urge to escape.) What is it so many Canadians dislike that much about being together in a Federal Canada?
AFAIK Ontario is the fiscal powerhouse of the country (maybe Alberta close behind or maybe now ahead with commodity prices being the way they are) and I understood that from a provincial point of view Ontarian taxpayers 'subsidise' the other provinces to a certain extent...
Surely then they should be the ones wanting out?!?!
Makes no sense to me... Maybe someone will enlighten me?
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by Daedra
A bit off topic but.. I don't know if this was in jest or not but I'd heard something about south west England (cant recall where exactly) wanting to become its own country independent of England?
John 'Two Jags/Philandering/Wingbag/Paid a Gross Wage to Play Croquet' Prescott also put forward a serious referendum on Yorkshire seceding from the UK (or being given it's own regional assembly, which as that's the level Wales has devolved to amounts to almost the same thing) but the people said no.
I guess the fact much smaller, even less important regions of my own country are thinking the same thing means I shouldn't be surprised by the sabre rattling coming from nation-sized segments of Canada.. but I can't help it... Federalism seems alien enough to me...
Have you heard of Republic of Cascadia? Aboriginal Nation States/Nationalism? Alberta, USA? The Nine Nations of North America?
Canada will stay as is until any changes to Canadian Tire money force people to reconsider.
Canada will stay as is until any changes to Canadian Tire money force people to reconsider.
.. on a lighter note - have tried to convince numerous compatriots that Canadian Tire money is the national currency over there, but none of my friends are that stupid... One did want to know why there was a Scottish person on the - 5c note I think? - .. she had a valid point.
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by windward
John 'Two Jags/Philandering/Wingbag/Paid a Gross Wage to Play Croquet' Prescott also put forward a serious referendum on Yorkshire seceding from the UK (or being given it's own regional assembly, which as that's the level Wales has devolved to amounts to almost the same thing) but the people said no..
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by Souvenir
Why would they want to? I spent a month there one afternoon.
Hehehe ..... not heard that one before.
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by dbd33
I think the Western Separatists a greater threat, though both are negligible.
11 years ago Canada came within a fraction of being torn apart. I'd hardly equate the PQ with a bunch of 'what if' merchants from Alberta.
Quebecers were pretty p'd off with the whole Sponsorship scandal and talk of another referendum after the next provincial election was everywhere.
http://www.legermarketing.com/eng/in...sp?prov=QC&l=1
If the recent polls are to be believed, that talk has abated somewhat but who knows what the next soverignty issue could be.
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Originally Posted by NewWorldMan
"Negligible"?
11 years ago Canada came within a fraction of being torn apart. I'd hardly equate the PQ with a bunch of 'what if' merchants from Alberta.
Quebecers were pretty p'd off with the whole Sponsorship scandal and talk of another referendum after the next provincial election was everywhere.
http://www.legermarketing.com/eng/in...sp?prov=QC&l=1
If the recent polls are to be believed, that talk has abated somewhat but who knows what the next soverignty issue could be.
11 years ago Canada came within a fraction of being torn apart. I'd hardly equate the PQ with a bunch of 'what if' merchants from Alberta.
Quebecers were pretty p'd off with the whole Sponsorship scandal and talk of another referendum after the next provincial election was everywhere.
http://www.legermarketing.com/eng/in...sp?prov=QC&l=1
If the recent polls are to be believed, that talk has abated somewhat but who knows what the next soverignty issue could be.
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
Nah, my reasons:-
1) quebeckers are too comfortable now. They haven't the belly for it.
2) PQ might do well just as a p*ss off to the liberals but won't do well when it comes to the referendum question.
3) The english that were frightened away have already gone. We're left with the rest who have already survived 2 referendums, why wouldn't they survive another?
4) Quebec is French enough, Francophones championed business a while back, they are no longer the underclass. What exactly would they be 'fighting for'? A bunch of feckless politicians-would-be royal family of the Sovereign state of Quebec? Yuk!
5) The allophone immigrants making up a large % of the annual intake won't vote for seperation.
1) quebeckers are too comfortable now. They haven't the belly for it.
2) PQ might do well just as a p*ss off to the liberals but won't do well when it comes to the referendum question.
3) The english that were frightened away have already gone. We're left with the rest who have already survived 2 referendums, why wouldn't they survive another?
4) Quebec is French enough, Francophones championed business a while back, they are no longer the underclass. What exactly would they be 'fighting for'? A bunch of feckless politicians-would-be royal family of the Sovereign state of Quebec? Yuk!
5) The allophone immigrants making up a large % of the annual intake won't vote for seperation.
Originally Posted by NewWorldMan
"Negligible"?
11 years ago Canada came within a fraction of being torn apart. I'd hardly equate the PQ with a bunch of 'what if' merchants from Alberta.
Quebecers were pretty p'd off with the whole Sponsorship scandal and talk of another referendum after the next provincial election was everywhere.
http://www.legermarketing.com/eng/in...sp?prov=QC&l=1
If the recent polls are to be believed, that talk has abated somewhat but who knows what the next soverignty issue could be.
11 years ago Canada came within a fraction of being torn apart. I'd hardly equate the PQ with a bunch of 'what if' merchants from Alberta.
Quebecers were pretty p'd off with the whole Sponsorship scandal and talk of another referendum after the next provincial election was everywhere.
http://www.legermarketing.com/eng/in...sp?prov=QC&l=1
If the recent polls are to be believed, that talk has abated somewhat but who knows what the next soverignty issue could be.
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Re: Millstone of United Canada
So whats happening in Canada regarding Sovereignty and the Queen? Are Canadians still eager to dump the Queen and replace her with a President or something? I was hearing about all this a few years ago from the Australians, New Zealanders and the Canadians. Now don't hear about it quite so much.
Are the "kids" finally going there own way and breaking away from the Queen and the UK?
Are the "kids" finally going there own way and breaking away from the Queen and the UK?