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Old Jul 17th 2014 | 2:59 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
If historical architecture and/or older houses are important to you, then I'd respectfully suggest that you forget North America and look elsewhere!
Or choose wisely in North America...

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Old Jul 17th 2014 | 3:05 am
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Originally Posted by Howefamily
There are IT jobs here, theres a big IT company:
Information technology and business process outsourcing | CGI IT services
Sweat. Shop.

A bad employer in Toronto, I imagine they're awful in locations where they're the only game in town.
 
Old Jul 17th 2014 | 3:52 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
I'm confused, where's 'home'? I thought you were Canadian?
I am... I'm Maltese also, I have dual nationality. Malta is 'home' for me.... There are some on here and elsewhere that although they were born and raised in the UK they would never think of living there again... Of course they visit, but they'd never live there again... They consider their 'adopted' country 'home'. When I look at myself I think that's how I will be. I'll probably never want to live in Canada ever again after I leave, but due to family circumstances will always be back regularly for visits (which may be coincidentally planned round BE meetups )


Originally Posted by Partially discharged
The poster, a very young poster on this board, has parents and/or grandparents who are from Malta and he has been there twice on summer holidays. He believes that is his 'home' and he is being held captive in an upper middle class pergury in canadian suburbia.

He reminds me of an italian/canadian friend of mine in toronto whose father moved to canada at age 16 with literally one suitcase. He always talked fondly of his 'home' in italy. When he retired at age 65 he moved back 'home' and within 6 months was back in canada as 'home' wasn't what he remembered.
I don't know if this was a jab or just a remark, but the difference between him and I is I won't be waiting til i'm 65 to go home. And besides, 6 months isn't really giving it a real go. That's more like an extended vacation. 1-2 years is more like it.

Originally Posted by sajohnstone
Thank you everyone for their input. Its certainly given me a lot more options to look at! Some like Halifax, Edmonton, St John's which I hadn't even considered. I've also taken on iaink's comments so not just restricted my search to the east coast.
Here is my summary....I'm sure you guys will put me right.

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Montreal/Quebec - Ok as a tourist, but would need fluent French to live there.
Winnipeg, Regina and Saskatoon,Edmonton - Too cold?
Agree.
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Calgary - Cold, yet sunny. This maybe a bit controversial, but it seems (based on my very brief research) modern e.g. a lack of older houses?
Ottawa - No one has mentioned it? Is it a possibility?
Tbh Calgary should be put on the "too cold" list. I have a cousin who lived there up til now; they had snow till about mid-may. Officially winter is supposed to be done at the end of march.


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Toronto - Expensive to live? Milder climate.
Vancouver - Wet, expensive to live?

Quick question about mosquito's are they everywhere in Canada (here I'm talking cities here - I'd expect them by a rural lake)?

Jobs, Anywhere especially good for software jobs at the moment?
Yeah there's meskeeters everywhere.... For Toronto/Vancouver, just read what Schnooks said as I agree with that whole post

Software jobs? You can find those anywhere AFAIK
 
Old Jul 17th 2014 | 3:57 am
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They're positively modern. The barn we use for storage is 100 years older than the most 'historic' of them!

Canada may be many wonderful things, but known for historic architecture it ain't.
 
Old Jul 17th 2014 | 3:58 am
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Oh, and Ottawa? From what I found bilingualism is a bit more important there compared to the rest of Ontario, whilst not as important as Quebec. It is a beautiful city too, I was there on my trip as well. But overall would recommend the GTA over Ottawa.
 
Old Jul 17th 2014 | 4:03 am
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I am... I'm Maltese also, I have dual nationality. Malta is 'home' for me.... There are some on here and elsewhere that although they were born and raised in the UK they would never think of living there again... Of course they visit, but they'd never live there again... They consider their 'adopted' country 'home'.
Well, yes, but that's after they've moved and settled there, not just after a vacation. I've just never heard of anyone referring to somewhere they've been to a couple of times as 'home', regardless of family ties.

My grandmother was French, and I've been to France around 20 times and love it. It would never occur to me to call it home though!

Anyway, thanks for explaining, I was wondering if I'd missed your location somewhere along the line.
 
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Originally Posted by SchnookoLoly
Ottawa - spent 7 months there on a project with work in 2008. I really like the city. I went for a visit with my husband in December 2012 as well. It's really pretty - lots of stone buildings, almost has a bit more of a 'european' feel too it - more interesting and more pretty architecture than a lot of other cities. Modern, but doesn't feel as modern. Population I believe is about 500k, so it's a good size. Has a good bus system, lots of touristy stuff since it's the capital, the canal is gorgeous - very pretty and quaint. I don't think cost of living is too bad there either, particularly if you're in the surrounding suburbs (Kanata, etc). I know quite a few who are from Ottawa or who are currently living in Ottawa, and very much like it. As you might imagine, buckets of public sector jobs, which may or may not be a bad thing. It's about a 2.5h drive to Montreal, and a 5 hour drive to Toronto, so certainly striking distance for both. Has a reasonably-sized airport. Unlikely you'll get many direct flights, particularly for overseas, but if you aren't fussed about a connection, then you're set. Worth a visit and worth considering. Very nice summers, definitely winters a bit on the colder side. Probably not too much different to Toronto in terms of temperature, but certainly more snow. (Which is a plus in my book, I'd personally have the snow AND the temperatures, at least the snow makes it interesting and fun. The cold is just, well, cold.)
Is speaking French a necessity in Ottawa? Wikipedia says around 70% of people consider English as their native language...but would we be outcasts if we couldn't speak French (we could learn, but that takes time).
 
Old Jul 17th 2014 | 4:11 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Well, yes, but that's after they've moved and settled there, not just after a vacation. I've just never heard of anyone referring to somewhere they've been to a couple of times as 'home', regardless of family ties.
The Canadian born children of Swiss nationals think of themselves as "Swiss Etranger" and, indeed, receive a government sponsored magazine of that name. Upon reaching age they go home each year to do their national service and, even before that, they gather each year on the first of August to clatter their cow bells and endure guggelmusik. Switzerland is "home" to them even if they've never been.

I imagine the same is true of the children of the nationals of any country with a seize mentality and strong sense of superiority; Israel and South Africa spring to mind.
 
Old Jul 17th 2014 | 4:27 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Well, yes, but that's after they've moved and settled there, not just after a vacation. I've just never heard of anyone referring to somewhere they've been to a couple of times as 'home', regardless of family ties.

My grandmother was French, and I've been to France around 20 times and love it. It would never occur to me to call it home though!

Anyway, thanks for explaining, I was wondering if I'd missed your location somewhere along the line.
Meh. I dunno... Don't want to derail this thread but to put it short - its the only place I cry getting on the plane when its time to leave it.... Everywhere else i'm ready to get back to life in Canada. Leaving there - Canada is the place I least want to be. I just connected with the place when I was there.

 
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Is speaking French a necessity in Ottawa? Wikipedia says around 70% of people consider English as their native language...but would we be outcasts if we couldn't speak French (we could learn, but that takes time).
If you want to work in government, then depending on the branch French is an asset but not a requirement. A friend of mine works for the TRade Dept, and she went through 9 months of French lessons before she could start working. Another friend works for the Canadian International Council (I think - I know it's CIC but is NOT immigration, lol) and French isn't a problem for her, she doesn't speak it.

Day-to-day in Ottawa you don't need it. I certainly didn't, nor did anyone else on the team I was working with (70ish people). Another friend was in Ottawa for 2 years, she doesn't speak French either.

So I'd say you are fine if you don't speak French in Ottawa.
 
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The Canadian born children of Swiss nationals think of themselves as "Swiss Etranger" and, indeed, receive a government sponsored magazine of that name. Upon reaching age they go home each year to do their national service and, even before that, they gather each year on the first of August to clatter their cow bells and endure guggelmusik. Switzerland is "home" to them even if they've never been.

I imagine the same is true of the children of the nationals of any country with a seize mentality and strong sense of superiority; Israel and South Africa spring to mind.
Funny, I know a kid who is both Swiss and South African. His dad was born in SA to a Swiss father and SA mum. He then moved to Switzerland where he met his Canadian wife and now they are back here.

The kid in question wants to live in Switzerland. Not SA though. Has his Swiss passport but not SA. His dad lost SA citizenship when he moved to Switzerland somehow.
 
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Sweat. Shop.

A bad employer in Toronto, I imagine they're awful in locations where they're the only game in town.
oh really. I didn't realize. A friends husband worked there and he was pretty happy. Maybe its different in the Halifax location.
 
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Toronto - Expensive to live? Milder climate.
Vancouver - Wet, expensive to live?
To further elaborate on Vancouver's climate...

Vancouver's rain is seasonal. Many forget this or don't understand this. It is wet in the winter (November-January are the rainiest months) but winter is when the rest of the country has snow, ice, and sub-zero temperatures for months on end. However, the first spring blossoms appear in Vancouver in late February and with that wetness brings greenery, greenery that expats living elsewhere moan about missing. Vancouver has a proper spring, with flowers from February until May. June, July, August, September, October = beautiful sunny dry weather. The rain in Vancouver is seasonal. Elsewhere in Canada, the rainiest months are often the summer months!

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Old Jul 17th 2014 | 9:16 am
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To further elaborate on Vancouver's climate...

Vancouver's rain is seasonal. Many forget this or don't understand this. It is wet in the winter (November-January are the rainiest months) but winter is when the rest of the country has snow, ice, and sub-zero temperatures for months on end. However, the first spring blossoms appear in Vancouver in late February and with that wetness brings greenery, greenery that expats living elsewhere moan about missing. Vancouver has a proper spring, with flowers from February until May. June, July, August, September, October = beautiful sunny dry weather. The rain in Vancouver is seasonal. Elsewhere in Canada, the rainiest months are often the summer months!
 
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