Hiya

Currently in a state of high excitement and want to know if I have interpreted something correctly or not...

Let me describe my current job first of all, then tell you which NOC Code I think that I'm in and where I found the definition. Could you confirm or deny that I'm right in thinking that I am on THE LIST?

Current Job:

Communications Manager (Local Government).

Responsibilities:

• Marketing the work of the Partnership through on/offline channels. Designing, maintaining and evaluation of campaigns undertaken by the Team.
• This includes all advertising campaigns, marketing collateral (leaflets / giveaways etc), online advertising, social media, events/experiential marketing
• Designing, developing and delivering a strategy to achieve the above
• Advising all of the partners on the best use of their advertising budgets, audience segmentation etc
• Development, protection and implementation of the brand and brand values
• Developing a strategy for the whole partnership (not just the Communications Team) to achieve higher casulaty reduction rates, audience penetration and adherance to government guidelines.
• Whipping boy!!! (Well I am the team manager so am the first line of flack-attack!)

Background is in full spectrum communications and strategic communications (advertising/marketing etc - not telephony!)


THE LIST

Now, I've had a look at the list and thinkthat I come under NOC 1122.

I have found a list of the definitions here (although when I click on 1122 it gives me the same job title but is prefixed with 0811 (see here to see what I mean)).

My absolute love is agency side full spectrum communications (from building a brand to promoting product via clearly defined creative strategies), and I think that this is 1122 down to a T.

So, the question is... Am I right? Is 1122 me (based on the information above) or have I managed to misinterpret something in my state of gob-smacked excitement?

Thanks!

Oh and one supplementary question...

If I am on the list but my partner isn't, can he come with me OK or will htat be a barrier to his entry?
(am assuming I get pre-arranged employment as well - can't afford to move and not have any work coming in!)

If you are on the list, your partner could come with you, with you being the principal applicant.

However, in relation to your comment about assuming you'd get pre-arranged employment, I think you're being a little naive to be honest. Very few people come here with work already arranged- some do, but the vast majority dont.
This is because most employers dont want to even discuss jobs with you until you're already here.

Check the proper NOC description (not the one on Visa Bureau website) to see if you would be eligible. You need to look at the 'Main Duties' under 1122, and prove you do at least half of them.

If you can do that, plus meet the points requirement, have proof of funds, pass the medical, etc, then you should be eligible as a SW. Your partner would be able to go with you on the same visa application, assuming that he is your common-law partner (i.e. you've lived together for a year or more).

Hiya

Eek now I'm even more confuzzled...

I thought that if you were on the List, the points system didn't matter too much (source: BE Wiki)?

And in regards to employment, if you weren't on the list, I thought that you had to have arranged employment to get a look in. Or is it so difficult to get that few people manage it that way?

And I've had a look at the HRSDC website and I think that 1122 covers me perfectly and that I currently fulfil/can fulfil all of the bullet points for job scope. Is the HRSDC website the best place to be looking?

Thank you!

No, it still matters - you need both a job on 'the list' and at least 67 points to qualify as Skilled Worker category 1 (plus proof of funds, passing medical etc of course). The Wiki article just means that points are useless unless you have a job on 'the list' or a job offer approved by HRSDC.


Exactly. It's very difficult, not only to find a job plus AEO/LMO, but also to go that route an employer has to be prepared to wait a year or so, which is unlikely unless you have specialist skills. Most people that apply under Skilled Worker category 2 (arranged employment) are already in Canada on a Temp Work Permit.

Yes, that's the website you need and the criteria for the job to check. If you do the duties and have enough points, then you are eligible as SW.

Hi, my family and I came here on a Temp Res. My husband had a job arranged while we were still in the Uk and he got a pos LMO. We didn't need the points for the Temp Res, but will need them for the Perm Res application.
In regards to your question about employment. You can do it like we did and get a pos LMO (it is a bit tricky, I agree) and come on a Temp work permit and apply for Perm Res in Canada or like most do apply for Perm Res in the UK and then go and find a job here. Thats when you need the points and the funds etc.
As far as I know, if you are on the list of the jobs that are "in demand" you can apply for a job from the UK, already but won't need a LMO to come.Check that with the HRSDC. The list and the procedure for Perm Res have changed lately. Married partners, common law partners and children can come on your visa.
good luck

That's not true unfortunately - even if somebody has a job on 'the list' of 29 eligible Skilled Worker occupations, they'd still require a LMO to get a Temporary Work Permit.

Of course, if they are on 'the list' then it does mean that they can apply for PR straight away without arranged employment, so that's going to be an easier and better route for them anyway.

Are you sure about that? I'm sure there was a section on the TWP application form where you could explain why you didn't think an LMO was necessary for your job... why have that option if it's never possible to do?

There are times when a LMO isn't required, such as if you are an intra-company transfer, or working in one of the LMO exempt occupations (IT), but not in the case of just having a job on 'the list'.

Oh my poor brain...

What's an LMO? I think that I knew once upon a time...

I haven't got enough points on a straight test (61) but with a job offer would have.
However when I was looking before an immigration guy on here thought that my 8 solid years experience might sway things...

Just found Canada Magazine (issue 1) here - lots of info in there as well!!!

Worked that one out.. knew it was in the brain somewhere!!!