Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 6963043)

It really wasn’t a very well though out approach to a group based on a fundamentalist religious foundation, in fact in hindsight it looks rather stupid

Originally Posted by dinger24 (Post 6963144)

If Sadam Hussein was left in control would he have launched chemical weapons against his enemies?

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6963136)

He made no difference to my daily life, we are adequately supplied with a variety of drugs. Anyway, I thought they were claimed to be saving us from terrorists, not from recreational drug use.

If he wanted to go charging around in the wilderness at the risk of making his child an orphan then that's his choice but he should not assume that anyone is interested in whether or not he does it. I think it's a bit irresponsible on his part.

The troops of today are not asking for a minute of silence for them. They are seeking to usurp someone else's minute of silence. They seek to cash in politically on the sacrifice of people who did not take up war as a career but as a necessity.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6963136)

He made no difference to my daily life, we are adequately supplied with a variety of drugs. Anyway, I thought they were claimed to be saving us from terrorists, not from recreational drug use.

If he wanted to go charging around in the wilderness at the risk of making his child an orphan then that's his choice but he should not assume that anyone is interested in whether or not he does it. I think it's a bit irresponsible on his part.

The troops of today are not asking for a minute of silence for them. They are seeking to usurp someone else's minute of silence. They seek to cash in politically on the sacrifice of people who did not take up war as a career but as a necessity.

Originally Posted by dinger24 (Post 6963089)

I should show this opinion and your others to the 8 yr old daughter of my close friend who was killed recently in Afghanistan. Whilst out there he made a small difference to your daily life from a long distance. The local dealers where you live and many other towns in the western world are effected by the deterrence of the drug trade from the poppy fields in Afghan to your neighborhood hood - of course you will have an opinion on this, that you have read in a newspaper whilst drinking a hot coffee over your homely comforts. I suggest that my friends opinion was formed when sweating to bring to bear his weapon against the enemy in the arid heat, the constant tension of patrolling in a hostile enviroment only known to a soldier in combat would be somewhat different and still I know that he believed that he was doing this for people just like you, sadly I know he would do it all again for people like you. Yet you can slate this and many other soldiers from all conflicts when all they ask is 1 minutes silence for the freedom they have chosen to allow you to enjoy whether a volunteer or a conscripted man or woman. I hope that the Americans do withdraw from all conflicts and a diplomatic solution is found, if for nothing else just so children can have there parents with them as they grow up!

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6963153)

He already did that. They excuse for starting the war was that he was going to use Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Godwin, btw.

Originally Posted by sarahandshaun (Post 6963260)

Sorry about your mate Dinger, I got back from Basra in April thankfully, but sadly many haven't. My wife works at Selly Oak, a ward that many of these people don't know about, we do. Sadly, I believe your words have fallen on deaf ears. I joined twenty years ago, not to invade another country or go to war but to travel and work hard play hard. WE are just the pawns to carry out the political dirty work even if it's delivering petrol or fire fighting when the civvies decide to cry about their pay. Keep your head down. We will remember...............

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6963153)

He already did that. They excuse for starting the war was that he was going to use Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Godwin, btw.

Originally Posted by sarahandshaun (Post 6963260)

Sorry about your mate Dinger, I got back from Basra in April thankfully, but sadly many haven't. My wife works at Selly Oak, a ward that many of these people don't know about, we do.

Originally Posted by startwin (Post 6963489)

Between my early post on this thread and now, I have been to the ceremony at the cenotaph in my town. Stood in the pouring rain with hundreds of others, including many young people. We remembered and prayed for those who fought in all wars.

I came back and read several pages of postings, and feel ashamed for fellow Brits. The original post was made in good faith. It doesn't surprise me who amongst the regular posters denigrated this thread into a fight over Remembrance Day.

Originally Posted by startwin (Post 6963489)

It doesn't surprise me who amongst the regular posters denigrated this thread into a fight over Remembrance Day.

Originally Posted by dinger24 (Post 6963257)

So where do you live? Must be nice not to be affected by the drugs that are effecting everyone elses lives.
You have a very poor opinion of the armed forces that are employed to defend the nation. You also have a very relaxed opinion of the drug abuse that is effecting your daily life, whether it be known to you or not. The drug dealer that gives small amounts of drugs to children to make a market for his product, the drug addicted criminal breaking into houses and stealing to feed his/her habit, the nurses and doctors employed to look after the innocent person mugged for petty cash by the desperate crack user. Yet you would rather pay them the taxes than the soldiers employed and deployed by the government you vote for?
You are a strange one? Both nieve and opinionated on subjects that you have no idea about. People like your self have the rights and freedom that others have given their life for! Charging around the wilderness? Cashing in politically? Are you for real? Do you have any inclination of your surroundings? How can one be so easily miss lead in the western world is unbelievable!

Originally Posted by sarahandshaun (Post 6963271)

I don't remeber any chemical weapons being launched at me. Maybe I was in bed for that attack