Laval Quebec
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Laval Quebec
Hi, interested in moving to Laval with hubby, 3 kids and we hardly speak any french. Can anyone give me advice as to how people are generally in Laval, will we have problems being non-french speakers? Any advice will be welcome. Thxs.
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Only been there for a week for a soccer tournament met a few English speaking people and they said they have lived there all their life and couldn't speak french and really enjoyed it.
Why are you moving to Laval?
Why are you moving to Laval?
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Originally Posted by Grah
Only been there for a week for a soccer tournament met a few English speaking people and they said they have lived there all their life and couldn't speak french and really enjoyed it.
Why are you moving to Laval?
Why are you moving to Laval?
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Bonjour,
Laval, on the island just north of Montreal, is about 75% francophone. The days of being able to function just in English in the Montreal area are fading and most people are at least partly bilingual. Finding employment if you do not speak any French is difficult as most businesses prefer francophones, preferably bilingual, over anglophones irrespective of other qualifications. If you want to move to Quebec you should be prepared to learn French. This will not be a problem for your kids, but maybe more difficult as an adult. Even a little French will ensure politer treatment in many circumstances. The bilingual recognise you as anglophone and switch to English. The West Island, Westmount, Cote St Luc and Notre Dame de Grasse areas on Montreal island are more anglophone and have more ex-pat residents, but the housing is more expensive than off-island.
Laval itself has some nice neighbourhoods, some still quite rural, and a few dodgy ones where there's been some nasty drug-related crime recently. There's a lot of development there, most of it ugly in my opinion, but it depends what you are looking for.
Laval, on the island just north of Montreal, is about 75% francophone. The days of being able to function just in English in the Montreal area are fading and most people are at least partly bilingual. Finding employment if you do not speak any French is difficult as most businesses prefer francophones, preferably bilingual, over anglophones irrespective of other qualifications. If you want to move to Quebec you should be prepared to learn French. This will not be a problem for your kids, but maybe more difficult as an adult. Even a little French will ensure politer treatment in many circumstances. The bilingual recognise you as anglophone and switch to English. The West Island, Westmount, Cote St Luc and Notre Dame de Grasse areas on Montreal island are more anglophone and have more ex-pat residents, but the housing is more expensive than off-island.
Laval itself has some nice neighbourhoods, some still quite rural, and a few dodgy ones where there's been some nasty drug-related crime recently. There's a lot of development there, most of it ugly in my opinion, but it depends what you are looking for.
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Originally Posted by gules
Thought about moving to west island montreal, but house prices are too high, so thought either brossard,longeuil or laval. Going to Montreal soon to do more research on places I would like to live in. Is laval as beautiful as described in tourism guide?
It is fugly.
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Have you considered this?....
Vaudreuil-Dorion is a new conurbation off the west side of Montreal. The traffic isn't too bad going onto the island on most regular days. House prices start at around $150k for a 2-bed detached with no garage. It's not a soulless dormitory community either, also there are some good restaurants in the area and all the big-box retailers are locating in Vaudreuil now.
The area is about 25% english 75% french.... I have one free weekly newspaper delivered which interestingly enough is an englsh publication.
There are no less than 8 housing developers in the area right now.
Just thought i would throw that one into the mix.
Vaudreuil-Dorion is a new conurbation off the west side of Montreal. The traffic isn't too bad going onto the island on most regular days. House prices start at around $150k for a 2-bed detached with no garage. It's not a soulless dormitory community either, also there are some good restaurants in the area and all the big-box retailers are locating in Vaudreuil now.
The area is about 25% english 75% french.... I have one free weekly newspaper delivered which interestingly enough is an englsh publication.
There are no less than 8 housing developers in the area right now.
Just thought i would throw that one into the mix.
Originally Posted by Souvenir
My missus come from Longeuil; the St. Hubert part of it anyway.
It is fugly.
It is fugly.
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[QUOTE=neill]Have you considered this?....
Vaudreuil-Dorion is a new conurbation off the west side of Montreal. The traffic isn't too bad going onto the island on most regular days. House prices start at around $150k for a 2-bed detached with no garage. QUOTE]
Thanks, this is an area I havent even heard of. I will look into it on my next visit. How is rental like in Vaudreuil? I intend to rent for at least 6 months before I buy a property. How are taxes and schools in that area?
In response to Haggis statement, I am more than willing to learn french. I have always loved french and feel that I will learn faster in a french environment. Jobwise, I will be studying to start with, hubby works mostly in the US and I intend to volunteer for a while when my verbal french improves. Thanks for your response guys, anymore info will be appreciated.
Vaudreuil-Dorion is a new conurbation off the west side of Montreal. The traffic isn't too bad going onto the island on most regular days. House prices start at around $150k for a 2-bed detached with no garage. QUOTE]
Thanks, this is an area I havent even heard of. I will look into it on my next visit. How is rental like in Vaudreuil? I intend to rent for at least 6 months before I buy a property. How are taxes and schools in that area?
In response to Haggis statement, I am more than willing to learn french. I have always loved french and feel that I will learn faster in a french environment. Jobwise, I will be studying to start with, hubby works mostly in the US and I intend to volunteer for a while when my verbal french improves. Thanks for your response guys, anymore info will be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by gules
Thought about moving to west island montreal, but house prices are too high, so thought either brossard,longeuil or laval. Going to Montreal soon to do more research on places I would like to live in. Is laval as beautiful as described in tourism guide?
Nope couldn't tell you, we drove there direct from Winnipeg 27 hours so missed it on the way in and on the way out was settling down for a nap ready for my part driving sorry.
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Originally Posted by gules
Thought about moving to west island montreal, but house prices are too high, so thought either brossard,longeuil or laval. Going to Montreal soon to do more research on places I would like to live in. Is laval as beautiful as described in tourism guide?
I am curious; are you going to be studying at McGill or Concordia? I guess I am a bit mythed as to why you would want to move to Quebec in general if you haven't any ties there. I guess there are worst places to live than Laval but I would definitely say you would more than likely be subjected the charming separatists than you would in Montreal.
Did you know that if your children weren't born in Quebec, they will have no choice but to attend french school?
Laval is handy though if you plan on skiing a lot in the winter or camp a lot in the summer as you would be halfway to what Montrealers call "up north". It does sound as though you have a great attitude to make the move work.
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Originally Posted by yorkiebar99
The tourism guides describe Laval as beautiful? Hee hee hee. I have never heard it called that before. I grew up just 10 minutes north of Laval and that isn't a word I would use to describe it.
I am curious; are you going to be studying at McGill or Concordia? I guess I am a bit mythed as to why you would want to move to Quebec in general if you haven't any ties there. I guess there are worst places to live than Laval but I would definitely say you would more than likely be subjected the charming separatists than you would in Montreal.
Did you know that if your children weren't born in Quebec, they will have no choice but to attend french school?
Laval is handy though if you plan on skiing a lot in the winter or camp a lot in the summer as you would be halfway to what Montrealers call "up north". It does sound as though you have a great attitude to make the move work.
I am curious; are you going to be studying at McGill or Concordia? I guess I am a bit mythed as to why you would want to move to Quebec in general if you haven't any ties there. I guess there are worst places to live than Laval but I would definitely say you would more than likely be subjected the charming separatists than you would in Montreal.
Did you know that if your children weren't born in Quebec, they will have no choice but to attend french school?
Laval is handy though if you plan on skiing a lot in the winter or camp a lot in the summer as you would be halfway to what Montrealers call "up north". It does sound as though you have a great attitude to make the move work.
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Originally Posted by gules
... dont get me wrong I know I will hit some rough patches, but it depends on ones attitude towards change.
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
Just wait until you file your tax return.
hee hee hee. So true.
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Originally Posted by yorkiebar99
hee hee hee. So true.
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
Just wait until you file your tax return.
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Originally Posted by gules
I will be studying at Concordia. I wanted to move to Quebec because I have visited there a couple of times and I love the vibe, how laid back everyone is and how children are well behaved in comparison to kids in London. I have visited Vancouver and Toronto as well, but I love how the Montrealers celebrate the seasons with festivals and activities. I am a bit anxious about the winters, but i have been told the first 2 years are the hardest, then it becomes easier. Regarding the kids education, because I'm moving there as a student, they can go to English schools. Even if they went to french immersion, i have been adviced that the welcome class they have for non-french students is very effective. All and all I have a positive outlook for our move to Quebec, dont get me wrong I know I will hit some rough patches, but it depends on ones attitude towards change.
That is great that your kids will be able to attend English school. Not that there is anything wrong with having to enroll in French emmersion, i just feel bitter when the government tries to take away options from people.
As for the winters, at least you are practically guaranteed a genuine winter every year. Its bloody cold but if your kids are young, they will love the amount of snow received each year.
What will you be studying at Concordia?