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YYZlover Feb 12th 2007 1:35 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by Groo (Post 4393017)
I stayed in Days Inn on Carlton St, downtown Toronto last October. I think I paid a little extra for one of the top floors where I had wifi in the room.


Stayed there 3 years ago. Had wifi in my room. can't remember what floor I was on.

thought the hotel was horrible though. It smelled really bad. I hope they have done some renovations.

YYZlover Feb 12th 2007 1:46 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 4393004)
Internet in the park? Don't be silly. Toronto doesn't have internet in the airport (at least I can't work the payphone dial out connection there).

Are you sure you live in/near Toronto? We seem to have completely different experiences.

Internet at the airport is available. Been using wifi from the AC lounge there.

The press conference that was broadcasted live on the news channels in March last year were about covering all of GTA in wifi internet. A long term project that will take a few years to implement so it is covering all of GTA.



I'm staying in a hotel (Days Inn) in Toronto where there's only dial up. I certainly wouldn't travel without the bits to be able to get email using only a phone line.

As me and Madmac already stated, Days In on Carlton (if that is the one you're staying at) has internet.

Note also that mobile phones don't work once you go any distance away from the 401 corridor. I've been able to get around the shortage of phone lines in some hotels by dialing up to the internet using a laptop and a mobile phone but only in big cities.

Eh? My Rogers works fine. Even in US and over here in UK.


I have stayed at various different hotels in Toronto. Anything from the grottiest budget hotel to semi luxurious. All had phone lines.

Canada's a big place, eh? It just doesn't have European type infrastructure as most of the country doesn't have the population to justify it.
Indeed it is. Have never had any problems with their infrastructure.

dbd33 Feb 12th 2007 2:04 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by YYZlover (Post 4393278)
Are you sure you live in/near Toronto? We seem to have completely different experiences..

Yes. I'm actually in Toronto.


Originally Posted by YYZlover (Post 4393278)
Internet at the airport is available. Been using wifi from the AC lounge there..

In an airline lounge, sure. There's also internet in lounges overlooking parks.


Originally Posted by YYZlover (Post 4393278)
As me and Madmac already stated, Days In on Carlton (if that is the one you're staying at) has internet.

I'm not staying there but at the one in the Beach. Were I in the one on Carlton I could run a wire from the office LAN to the room. I know that hotel in passing, btw, because it, like the one opposite, is overflow accomodation for the UofT; one of my daughters dated a guy who lived there, the running joke being that she only wanted him for the location; her high school was on that block.


Originally Posted by YYZlover (Post 4393278)
I have stayed at various different hotels in Toronto. Anything from the grottiest budget hotel to semi luxurious. All had phone lines.

Yes, hotels in Canada have telephones. The problem is that there are a limited number of lines into a hotel and so the management tend to object to them being used for internet as it ties up a facility intended to be shared.

Shit, how much is a phone line adaptor? I say get one, you may very need it and, if you don't, it's maybe five bucks wasted. More generally, Canada doesn't consist only of people living in trailers and igloos but, because of the size of the place and the low population, one should not assume that there will be a European level of sophistication everywhere. Take the phone jack, put cat litter and warm clothes in the car, you're not in Islington no more.

daft batty Feb 12th 2007 2:13 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by YYZlover (Post 4392841)
Weird, very weird. Have friends living north of 401. There is broadband in their house. Don't know if they have installed wifi as that is up to them but broadband there is. Evene further out in places like George Town (between Toronto and Guelph and north of 401, for those who donät know) there is also broadband. My buddy out there has installed wifi in his house. Another one as far north as Orillia - broadband.

Can't answer if hotels north of 401 have it though.

However, how is Toronto getting on with covering the city with wifi so you can sit in a park if you want? I saw the news cast from the press conference when I was over last year.

We are north of the 401, on the 7 in Peterborough. We have cable broadband from Cogeco, Bell dont have broadband in our part of town. You can get Wifi in the city but not outside in the surrounding villages. I think if you go futher north and have$$$ you can get satellite connections.

Its patchy definitely and I agree that the cellphone connections are duff, you need a good phone sometimes to connect. ie at my friends house in the countryside i can get a rogers signal on my LAZr bluetooth phone, MOH cant get one one his cheaper phone.

dbd33 Feb 12th 2007 2:18 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by batty-x-ray (Post 4393361)
We are north of the 401, on the 7 in Peterborough. We have cable broadband from Cogeco, Bell dont have broadband in our part of town. You can get Wifi in the city but not outside in the surrounding villages. I think if you go futher north and have$$$ you can get satellite connections.

Its patchy definitely and I agree that the cellphone connections are duff, you need a good phone sometimes to connect. ie at my friends house in the countryside i can get a rogers signal on my LAZr bluetooth phone, MOH cant get one one his cheaper phone.

My Bell phone doesn't work in Mississauga. No mobile phones work at the farm in Schomberg. Patchy is a good word.

Satellite internet is about $800 to set up then about $100/month. I haven't tried it yet but the supplier describes it as "not an ideal implementation" and "usually faster than dial up" so I'm rather nervous about it.

daft batty Feb 12th 2007 3:03 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 4393383)
My Bell phone doesn't work in Mississauga. No mobile phones work at the farm in Schomberg. Patchy is a good word.

Satellite internet is about $800 to set up then about $100/month. I haven't tried it yet but the supplier describes it as "not an ideal implementation" and "usually faster than dial up" so I'm rather nervous about it.

I will ask if anyone i know uses it and see what they say. all that $$ for 'usually' isnt a good option

dbd33 Feb 12th 2007 3:09 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by batty-x-ray (Post 4393552)
I will ask if anyone i know uses it and see what they say. all that $$ for 'usually' isnt a good option

I don't think I have any choice but to have it. It'll be a while though as the installer is on holiday for a couple of weeks; perhaps that's the ideal job for Brits who don't like the lack of vacation in Canada.

YYZlover Feb 12th 2007 6:42 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 4393383)
My Bell phone doesn't work in Mississauga. No mobile phones work at the farm in Schomberg. Patchy is a good word.

Hmmmm.... A friend of mine works for a company that until recently belonged to the Bell corporation and use Bell for mobile. No problem at all getting signal in Mississauga around Mavis, Burnamthorp, Dixon etc. And his phone was very old. He just recently got a new phone, still on Bell and still no problem.

YYZlover Feb 12th 2007 6:44 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 4393334)
I'm not staying there but at the one in the Beach. Were I in the one on Carlton I could run a wire from the office LAN to the room.

Where do you work? I'm getting curious now.

:-)

dbd33 Feb 12th 2007 6:48 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by YYZlover (Post 4394226)
Hmmmm.... A friend of mine works for a company that until recently belonged to the Bell corporation and use Bell for mobile. No problem at all getting signal in Mississauga around Mavis, Burnamthorp, Dixon etc. And his phone was very old. He just recently got a new phone, still on Bell and still no problem.

I haven't been able to get a signal on my street since cell phones were invented. Every now and then I complain to Bell and they ask me to bring in the phone(s). When I get to the shop, in the Eaton Centre, they show me that they work fine and I chuckle at that and leave it for another year or so.

dbd33 Feb 12th 2007 6:49 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 

Originally Posted by YYZlover (Post 4394237)
Where do you work? I'm getting curious now.

:-)

Very near to that hotel.

iaink Feb 12th 2007 7:20 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 
My experience of cell coverage is that the phone sensitivity is often more important than the network, A different phone with good recepion may work where another one doesnt. My house used to be a zero reception area, which was nice... I used to be able to say with a clear concience to work that if they needed to get hold of me, my cell would be on. Now with the new phone it rings occasionally:(

Its not north of the 401 you want to be scared off, its north of 7:eek:

Grah Feb 12th 2007 9:32 am

Re: Laptop use in Canada
 
look here for bell
http://www.canadaphones.ca/network-c...add959a3823602

and remember

"A number of factors can prevent the commencement or completion of a call from a wireless phone. Even when a carrier publishes maps showing coverage in a certain geographic area, a subscriber may not be able to complete a call due to limitations in topography (the surroundings), capacity (how many callers are communicating with the same cell site at a given time), and network architecture (where antennas are located). A dropped call usually occurs when you are on the move and there are too few (or no) cell sites in the area where you are traveling. A dropped call also could result from a weakening of the signal from the cell site that carries your call and/or the failure of the call in progress to be handed off to another cell site. For example, the communication signal between your wireless phone and the cell site could fade significantly and end your call as you drive into a tunnel or walk into a building. The structure blocks the signal. The locations where you cannot make or receive calls due to these limitations are sometimes referred to as “dead zones,” “coverage holes,” “dead spots,” or “obstructed areas.”

When many people use a wireless service provider’s network at the same time and its capacity is strained, other customers trying to connect may hear a “busy signal” instead of being able to complete their calls. "


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