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Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by diamondsduke
(Post 11167149)
I don't know if I may be fully answering your question, 'does Canada, do this to UK citizens'?. My experience basically, I went via the megabus from New York to Canada in 2010. Everyone had to come out the bus go inside, line up. They looked at my passport, asked me how long I was staying there, told them. That was it. I cannot really remember if I had the I-94 or not probably took out. lol
I don't know if it has changed since. Thus far (knock wood an old saying) I haven't had any problems with Canada. My thing is exactly what they ask you answer, nothing more, straight to the point. However, I did notice other passengers had a hard time where they, questioned them a lot, or when they feel ready to deal with you they did. I didn't get a good glimpse of their passport to know which country they were from. As I have been told too, it all depends on the officer you get if they had a bad day, I cannot say. |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by gozitanguygoinghome99xx
(Post 11167138)
Typical American power/paranoia struggle / grumpy officers. What happened to the saying "leave your problems at the door when you come into work" ? :confused:
Like I said, does Canada do this to UK citizens? |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
I've been to America with an I94. I've been to America with people who used an I94. I don't know how many times, many hundreds. Once my dog set off a geiger counter and there was a fuss over possible "devices" inside him(!) Otherwise I've had no trouble, evah.
Do I look for trouble? Nope. If the I94 is getting near expiry and there's been no good cause to hand it in we drive to Buffalo buy some stuff and hand it in on the way back. I expect Oakvillian is right, that the chance of there being any sort of bother because you binned the I94 is miniscule but there's no sense inviting grief. And, of course, no excuse to go to Buffalo should be allowed to go to waste. |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon
(Post 11167188)
I've had some right grumpy CBSA s coming back into Canada.
Never know, one of those grumpy CBSAs could have been Former Lancastrian ;) :rofl: I kid, I kid |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
As I said, I used to have a neighbour who worked for CBSA and some of his stories were nearly unbelievable. So yes, guygoinghome, Canada can do anything to visitors from the UK.
All you have to do is watch a few episodes of that tv show 'Border Security' to see what goes on. Most of what they show is about how stupid the people trying to enter the country are but if you watch carefully you will see the CBSA agents making ridiculous statements and drawing conclusions from them. For example, in one episode the agent said, 'no one buys a one way ticket to go somewhere, two days before they fly.' Based on that simple minded belief, he suspected the person of coming to work illegally. They 'profile' people and apply broad generalizations which might fit 90% of travellers, to all 100% of travellers. The bottom line is simple. They have all the power. Any Immigration agent in any country can turn you away for no more reason than suspicion. Anything you do or don't do, like not handing in an I-94 may get you noticed and raise those suspicions. It's foolish to do that when it's so easy to avoid it in the case being talked about here. More than 90% of visitors to Canada or the USA walk right through no problem. But anything that triggers you being taken to a 'secondary inspection' means that now they are looking for a problem. |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by gozitanguygoinghome99xx
(Post 11167194)
I too, I too... But I've never had them do something as silly as, say, ask me to take my shoes off in the airport :rofl:
Never know, one of those grumpy CBSAs could have been Former Lancastrian ;) :rofl: I kid, I kid My experience has always been that CBSA agents at land borders are much friendlier than those at airports. I have also had better experiences with US border agents than Canadians, although I have never encountered US airport security. UK border staff aren't any better. A few have been complete d**ks to my gf. |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by burks
(Post 11167985)
I lost count of how many times I had to take my shoes off at a UK airport, so it isn't just the US. But, when someones tries to blow up a plane with explosives in their shoe who can blame them?
My experience has always been that CBSA agents at land borders are much friendlier than those at airports. I have also had better experiences with US border agents than Canadians, although I have never encountered US airport security. UK border staff aren't any better. A few have been complete d**ks to my gf. Scratch that. I've been to Heathrow once transferring to an Air Malta flight to Malta. So I went through UK airport security. But I was 5, so I don't remember ;) But when going through the Schengen area, Mexico, Dominican, Canada, I have never been asked to take shoes off. Only in US. Are you sure the UK airport security you're talking about wasn't US pre-clearance? I believe they have that at Heathrow so if you were flying to/through the US you would have done pre clearance in Heathrow hence being asked to take shoes off. :) |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by Dulciusexasperis
(Post 11167969)
As I said, I used to have a neighbour who worked for CBSA and some of his stories were nearly unbelievable. So yes, guygoinghome, Canada can do anything to visitors from the UK.
All you have to do is watch a few episodes of that tv show 'Border Security' to see what goes on. Most of what they show is about how stupid the people trying to enter the country are but if you watch carefully you will see the CBSA agents making ridiculous statements and drawing conclusions from them. For example, in one episode the agent said, 'no one buys a one way ticket to go somewhere, two days before they fly.' Based on that simple minded belief, he suspected the person of coming to work illegally. They 'profile' people and apply broad generalizations which might fit 90% of travellers, to all 100% of travellers. The bottom line is simple. They have all the power. Any Immigration agent in any country can turn you away for no more reason than suspicion. Anything you do or don't do, like not handing in an I-94 may get you noticed and raise those suspicions. It's foolish to do that when it's so easy to avoid it in the case being talked about here. More than 90% of visitors to Canada or the USA walk right through no problem. But anything that triggers you being taken to a 'secondary inspection' means that now they are looking for a problem. Oh, and I hate to say it, but most border guards are racist. Just throwing it out there. Being Maltese I look very arab, and I am always scrutinized, as is my Mum. My Dad, (who is not Maltese) and my brother and sister (who didn't inherit the awesome Maltese genes like I did :p) do not. Even when we are all traveling on Canadian passports. Don't even try taking my Lebanese friend across the border. She is a Canadian citizen too. Always is scrutinized, poor people they always get their car taken apart so they dont go across shopping anymore! |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by gozitanguygoinghome99xx
(Post 11168878)
I can't comment on my own UK experiences as I haven't been to the UK. :)
Scratch that. I've been to Heathrow once transferring to an Air Malta flight to Malta. So I went through UK airport security. But I was 5, so I don't remember ;) But when going through the Schengen area, Mexico, Dominican, Canada, I have never been asked to take shoes off. Only in US. Are you sure the UK airport security you're talking about wasn't US pre-clearance? I believe they have that at Heathrow so if you were flying to/through the US you would have done pre clearance in Heathrow hence being asked to take shoes off. :) They have that at all airports in the UK. |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 11168889)
UK airport authorities security can ask any passenger at any terminal at any point to remove shoes, belts etc., regardless of where they are travelling to.
They have that at all airports in the UK. |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by gozitanguygoinghome99xx
(Post 11168908)
Ah. But is it a requirement? As in do you have to remove it every time you go through security as in the US, or only on occasions where the officer feels like asking you. I think its like that here in Canada too. Ive been asked a few times to take off my belt in Canada, but not always.
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Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by gozitanguygoinghome99xx
(Post 11168878)
I can't comment on my own UK experiences as I haven't been to the UK. :)
Scratch that. I've been to Heathrow once transferring to an Air Malta flight to Malta. So I went through UK airport security. But I was 5, so I don't remember ;) But when going through the Schengen area, Mexico, Dominican, Canada, I have never been asked to take shoes off. Only in US. Are you sure the UK airport security you're talking about wasn't US pre-clearance? I believe they have that at Heathrow so if you were flying to/through the US you would have done pre clearance in Heathrow hence being asked to take shoes off. :) At Heathrow, you only have to remove your shoes if asked: http://www.heathrowairport.com/heath...ity/faqs#shoes |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by gozitanguygoinghome99xx
(Post 11168878)
I can't comment on my own UK experiences as I haven't been to the UK. :)
Scratch that. I've been to Heathrow once transferring to an Air Malta flight to Malta. So I went through UK airport security. But I was 5, so I don't remember ;) But when going through the Schengen area, Mexico, Dominican, Canada, I have never been asked to take shoes off. Only in US. Are you sure the UK airport security you're talking about wasn't US pre-clearance? I believe they have that at Heathrow so if you were flying to/through the US you would have done pre clearance in Heathrow hence being asked to take shoes off. :) The Canadians used to request shoe removal in the aftermath of the shoe bomber but they changed their guidelines a few years ago according to CBC. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/air-tr...es-on-1.856361 Honestly, my opinion is that of if you have nothing to hide then what is there to moan about? Security can already look through all of your belongings and you already have to empty your pockets etc. What's wrong with the extra 2 seconds it takes to kick off your shoes? |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11169281)
At an tangent, there's nothing so irksome as a person who travels by air wearing a belt and lace up shoes. Passengers know they are going to have to take their clothes off while hundreds of other people wait behind them. Considerate passengers dress as if they were Americans remanded in custody, in jump suits, or as if they were Canadians going to the mall, in pyjamas and slippers.
Originally Posted by MarylandNed
(Post 11169297)
There is no US pre-clearance at Heathrow or anywhere else in the UK. US pre-clearance is currently limited to locations in Canada, Ireland, Aruba, The Bahamas and Bermuda. Plans are in place to open another one in Abu Dhabi (UAE).
At Heathrow, you only have to remove your shoes if asked: http://www.heathrowairport.com/heath...ity/faqs#shoes
Originally Posted by burks
(Post 11169992)
No it wasn't a US pre-clearance as I don't think there are any in the UK, and anyways, I have never flown into or through the US. I have been asked to remove shoes when flying to Canada and to other EU destinations.
The Canadians used to request shoe removal in the aftermath of the shoe bomber but they changed their guidelines a few years ago according to CBC. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/air-tr...es-on-1.856361 Honestly, my opinion is that of if you have nothing to hide then what is there to moan about? Security can already look through all of your belongings and you already have to empty your pockets etc. What's wrong with the extra 2 seconds it takes to kick off your shoes? |
Re: Land border crossing to the US
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11169281)
....or as if they were Canadians going to the mall, in pyjamas and slippers.
Originally Posted by gozitanguygoinghome99xx
(Post 11170297)
Its annoying, and I have to walk on the dirty airport floor without shoes. What if I am wearing sandals? (without socks of course) :D
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