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Old Aug 7th 2024 | 7:03 am
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Originally Posted by rubble123
sorry but it is factually wrong - it isnt the case that you have to disclose everything in Canada - there is a pardon and purge process that has legal bearing, correct not saying what they are for because its irrelvant
So you've been pardoned? You haven't mentioned that before so not sure why you're being so defensive about an answer that was given without that info. You haven't told us what your convictions are for, how old you were at the time of them, or if you have been pardoned, etc, so any answers have only been in the context of the info given so far. Which is why I said it's best to just be honest, as we have no idea what you're actually asking about.

If you don't want to disclose details then that's fine, but perhaps it's best to disclose them to a lawyer to check your assumptions about Canadian laws.

Good luck.
 
Old Aug 7th 2024 | 7:58 am
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There is no such thing in the UK as a "Pardon" but correct all my discretions have been "stepped down" in the UK and no longer show on any level of criminal record check.

Canada has a pardon process, it also has a "deemed rehabilitation" process during immigration, which is why I "think" it maybe the case that the Immigration officer told me to tick "No" to the question
 
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For Immigration purposes on the application forms it normally asks an applicant have you ever been arrested, charged or convicted of any offence and if Yes supply details. Certainly for PR you have to send in a Police Certificate for all countries where you have lived for over 6 months. The UK one is commonly known as an ACPO certificate. Background checks are done and if not inadmissible then a COPR form is issued and the applicant does the landing. On the COPR form the question asked when landing as clearly shown on the form is charged/convicted of any crime or offence in any country.

The fact that you were arrested at 14 then this offence would be equated to the Youth and Criminal Justice Act and as such would not be taken into consideration for PR purposes.

Now you are applying for a job with PR being granted so the Immigration process is finished and would only become relevant for Immigration purposes if there was an investigation into how you obtained PR status via Misrepresentation. Of course you also still have to meet the residency requirement every rolling 5 years.

The job you are applying for appears to be also asking questions and to provide a Police Certificate and you are asking how to answer the question. Without knowing word by word what the question is I will give you my thoughts.

The job application has nothing to do with Immigration and is between you and the employer. I would simply submit the Police Certificate along with a covering letter indicating that during the Immigration process to emigrate to Canada you provided the certificate to Immigration which they checked and came to the conclusion you were not inadmissible for criminality. Although you had an incident when 14 years old this was relevant but not material as it is considered an offence when committed as a young person.
 
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I love it. Asking for advice and then stating the advice is wrong. To the OP - do what you want to do and live with the consequences of that choice - good or bad.
 
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I love it. Asking for advice and then stating the advice is wrong. To the OP - do what you want to do and live with the consequences of that choice - good or bad.
Happy to accept logical advice aside from the one post there hasn't been much logic.

For the fifth time. I haven't mis represented any facts at any point during my immigration and have obtained the PR card. Now when applying for a job the question is how does information from the UK traverse across.

A vulnerable sector check in Canada, checks if someone has received a sexual conviction for which they have received a Pardon. By a process of deduction, this means if a Canadian has received a Pardon they dont disclose anything for a vulnerable sector check. I haven't received anything nearly as serious, but I also haven't received a Pardon as my indiscretions were not in Canada. My assumption is that the Immigration officer assessed my case as deemed rehabilitated as it's minor, in fact the words he used was "everything was dismissed." This isn't to say that immigration don't have a record of what I disclosed, or that there is the potential to show that I miss represented any facts during my landing.

The question therefore is does deemed rehabilitated equate to "a pardon" and hence the ability, just like a Canadian would who had received a Pardon, answer NO to the question have I been arrested or charged with an offence. There is probably Canadian law somewhere that states parsons don't count unless they are for specified offences. Just to add as there seems to be a trend on wondering what I have done. I have never been convicted of any crime in any court of law, or in fact pled guilty to any crime.
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Old Aug 8th 2024 | 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by rubble123
For the fifth time. I haven't mis represented any facts at any point during my immigration and have obtained the PR card. Now when applying for a job the question is how does information from the UK traverse across.
It doesn't. Your immigration history also has absolutely nothing to do with any employment based checks, other than you being work authorised.

Originally Posted by rubble123
The question therefore is does deemed rehabilitated equate to "a pardon" and hence the ability, just like a Canadian would who had received a Pardon, answer NO to the question have I been arrested or charged with an offence.
No, of course not. Being admissible to Canada doesn't mean any past crimes are pardoned, just that they aren't deemed serious enough to mean you can't enter Canada.

We're going round in circles - as above, best to contact an employment lawyer to see if your past crimes may cause you issues or not. Thread closed and good luck.

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