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el_richo Nov 19th 2015 4:57 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11798121)
Below, number 1 being the best pick, to 5 (never ever go there) from the top down.

1. Toronto

2. Wellington

3. Sydney

4. London UK & Paris jointly

5. Any place in the Middle East

:rofl:

JonboyE Nov 19th 2015 5:00 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11798125)
Using such logic, are you able to explain why those countries that are participating in the dispute in the Middle East, that are far more proximate to the area of fighting than France is, have not been the subject of attacks such as the one in Paris?

They have, it is just that no one cares.

Novocastrian Nov 19th 2015 5:16 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 11798137)
They have, it is just that no one cares.

This. Dozens of people were killed just today in a bomb attack in the marketplace in Yola, Nigeria. I doubt it'll make the six o'clock news.

not2old Nov 19th 2015 5:24 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11798125)
It isn't only the US, the UK and France that are participating, as I am sure you are aware. If Canada escapes any such attacks, it will be because, on the world stage, Canada is so insignificant that it will not be in the sights of anyone proposing such attacks.

No threats in or to Canada eh!

Its because of that & the fact that Canada may be a refuge for many undesirable types.

When it comes to 'blood & guts' (war or terrorism), IMO, Canada is a fence sitter & a country that depends on the rest of the world to be its guardian.

MarylandNed Nov 19th 2015 5:43 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11798169)
When it comes to 'blood & guts' (war or terrorism), IMO, Canada is a fence sitter & a country that depends on the rest of the world to be its guardian.

Canada's contribution and sacrifice in 2 world wars was immense. Canada has been involved in many other conflicts and peacekeeping missions since.

Almost Canadian Nov 19th 2015 6:19 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11798169)
No threats in or to Canada eh!

Its because of that & the fact that Canada may be a refuge for many undesirable types.

When it comes to 'blood & guts' (war or terrorism), IMO, Canada is a fence sitter & a country that depends on the rest of the world to be its guardian.

Eh?

I was merely commenting that any threat to Canada will not disappear simply because its leader may cease the bombing raids that were insignificant in any event.

Almost Canadian Nov 19th 2015 6:25 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11798161)
This. Dozens of people were killed just today in a bomb attack in the marketplace in Yola, Nigeria. I doubt it'll make the six o'clock news.

CNN reported it. Who is it that is not supposed to care?

not2old Nov 19th 2015 6:58 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 
Modern day events, not the second war - when it comes to Canada having to deal with a full scale war, attack, defending ourselves or dealing with terrorism (Paris & London), can we do it?

Since we have prepared & equipped paranoid neighbours to the south, what the heck do we need to worry about or be concerned with to get involved for, because it'll all be done for us by others. Further support & intelligence from the UK

Canada vs United States Military Stats Compared

Canada vs United Kingdom Military Stats Compared

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not2old Nov 19th 2015 7:17 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11798161)
This. Dozens of people were killed just today in a bomb attack in the marketplace in Yola, Nigeria. I doubt it'll make the six o'clock news.


Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11798233)
CNN reported it. Who is it that is not supposed to care?

As did the CBC, CTV, SkyTV, BBC, ITV, France24, ABC Australia & others.

My guess is the Paris attacks are newsworthy because more Americans (include Brits & Canadians) live or visit the place over Yola & that the advertising dollars that CNN gets makes it newsworthy till the next event worth covering. Other than that its the mug faces of US politicians or the wannabe's

Jimbo2012 Nov 19th 2015 8:59 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by AlexJSmith (Post 11798296)
There's been some murmur in the news about some threats every so often, but not something to worry about. However we are seeing some nasty acts against muslim people in Canada as well. The muslim-phobia is kicking in here as well. Recently they burned down a mosque in a city well outside of Toronto. Peterborough mosque arson is suspected hate crime - Toronto - CBC News

An isolated act committed by an idiot, I would suggest. I haven't witnessed or overheard much in the way of bigotry or intolerance up here in Ptbo.

AlliF Nov 19th 2015 11:32 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11798041)
Last night there was a 17 vehicle pile up on a major route with no serious injuries as once again drivers failed to drive to the conditions as they believe they are somewhat invincible in a 4 x 4 SUV or similar vehicle with or without snow tires.

That was just literally round the corner from us. It's as if everyone in Winnipeg has completely forgotten how to drive on icy roads. Give it a week and this will be business as usual.

Novocastrian Nov 19th 2015 11:39 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 11798233)
CNN reported it. Who is it that is not supposed to care?

I suppose I should have said that it won't be in tomorrow's news. Is hashtag jesuisyola trending tonight?

DandNHill Nov 19th 2015 11:44 pm

Re: How safe is Canada?
 
Although the risk factor is very low I do believe in Canada, my husband and 2nd son are probably in two of the most vulnerable places. One works at Pearson and the other lives in downtown Toronto. But am I going to lose any sleep over it? No because I believe the risk is very low. Think hubby is safer than when he worked at Gatwick!!

not2old Nov 20th 2015 12:24 am

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by AlexJSmith (Post 11798296)
There's been some murmur in the news about some threats every so often, but not something to worry about. However we are seeing some nasty acts against muslim people in Canada as well.

The muslim-phobia is kicking in here as well. Recently they burned down a mosque in a city well outside of Toronto.

Peterborough mosque arson is suspected hate crime - Toronto - CBC News

That is something the OP should be aware of

Related facts for anyone moving to Canada in the linked news piece below

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/hate-cr...eted-1.2413976

Ten facts you need to know from Statistics Canada’s new report detailing hate crimes in 2013 | National Post

Pine Cone Nov 20th 2015 5:40 am

Re: How safe is Canada?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 11798089)
In the context or terrorism, it shouldn't even be on your list of things to worry about in Canada, UK, Paris, US, etc.

It shouldn't be, but it is something we worry about as we've been directly affected by situations in the past.

As a student, I've been evacuated from Birmingham International train station while travelling through during rush hour on more than one occasion due to bomb alerts. I worked in London at the end of the IRA era and on more than one occasion I was faced with being evacuated from a main train stations on my way home from work, and stranded alone, amongst crowds of panicking people, in the dark at night for some considerable time until I could find an alternative way to get home. My husband luckily wasn't on the underground trains that got blown up a few years ago, but could so easily have been if he was running 10-15 minutes later. Even here in Sydney, my husband occasionally works across the road from the Lindt cafe (and ocassionally bought me yummy chocolates from) where the nutter held people at gunpoint late last year. I've spent quite some time frequenting that area of the city with my kids, while off visiting parks/museums etc.

With all of this in mind, I'd rather not live somewhere under constant fear of something kicking off. I know nowhere is 100% safe, and there are all kinds of nutters out there. I'd just prefer it wasn't something we need to get used to again.


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