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Old Jun 28th 2006, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Buchan6
"So, now the question is: Is £143 extra worth it for the convenience and peace of mind of a door to door service"

ABSOLUTELY - It will cost you at least 100pounds for van hire, gas, insurance, etc then as you say theres the hassle of getting it from the warehouse to yourself.

Whoever you use be prepared for a price increase as you will likely exceed the weight that you originally quoted your shipper.
Best of luck !!!

My thoughts exactly!

I think I am going to aim for 75 cubic feet, but budget for up to 100. I hope this will work out.

Thanks again.

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Originally Posted by cancov
Please excuse my total thickness, but is a shipping agent a company like the ones I have been mentioning (such as Anglo Pacific, Cargobookers,Excess Baggage)?

I think I will be packing myself but using one of those companies-if I can get my head around this maze of cubic feet, cubic meters, quotes, extra charges....

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We'll be taking just 'stuff' too and I already had boxes similar in size to Cargobookers ones (I gave them the dimensions) ans estimated about 30 such boxes. They quoted about £600 door to port (Toronto), which seems good to me. I don't think we'll need 30 boxes though...
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This is the qoute i just received from AMJ Cambell in Toronto. I use them as they were the second half of the journey for my goods coming in.
I used the Withiam brothers of bexhill and it cost 350 pounds to send out 20 boxes door to door.
AMJ Cambell have quoted:

OUR RESIDENCE TO RESIDENCE QUOTE…………….. CDN $1,110.00
FOR 60CUFT NET

CDN $ 1,410.00
FOR 100CUFT NET
Excludes insurance (2.5% of valuation of shipment)

Transit time between terminals approx 3-4 weeks

not too bad but it is still a struggle trying to decide what to take home and what to sell!
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I went to my local bike store and for £15 they will box it up for me. Apparently they do this sort of thing quite a lot.

Information worth sharing me thinks!

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I went to my local bike store and for £15 they will box it up for me. Apparently they do this sort of thing quite a lot.

Information worth sharing me thinks!

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You didn't mention earlier if you have decided on a shipping company, but some do supply the boxes for bikes I think. Not sure if it worth looking into?

Have you had any quotes yet from the companies?

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You didn't mention earlier if you have decided on a shipping company, but some do supply the boxes for bikes I think. Not sure if it worth looking into?

Have you had any quotes yet from the companies?

Kellie
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Sorry, I haven't got that far yet. I was going to jump on that bandwagon at the start of August, but I wont be using Pickford's as I've read unhappy experiences from other members, though goods were not lost. They seemed a little absent on the tracking.

How are you getting on with the shipping forms? I assume that we will need to complete the B4A and B4E forms? I'm also assuming that I will need 3 copies in total, one for me, one set to go with boxes (I'll attach of the documents to the actual boxes with in a clear plastic cover) and one for customs upon arrival.

This is good communication, you're giving me confidence!

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Kellie

Sorry, I haven't got that far yet. I was going to jump on that bandwagon at the start of August, but I wont be using Pickford's as I've read unhappy experiences from other members, though goods were not lost. They seemed a little absent on the tracking.

How are you getting on with the shipping forms? I assume that we will need to complete the B4A and B4E forms? I'm also assuming that I will need 3 copies in total, one for me, one set to go with boxes (I'll attach of the documents to the actual boxes with in a clear plastic cover) and one for customs upon arrival.

This is good communication, you're giving me confidence!

Thank you
I think I have decided to go with my local Britannia mover. if you read through this thread you will see all of my reasoning.

I think what we are going to do is go and buy the boxes from them (which will be deducted from the final bill) very soon.

I am going to pack up and label all of my 'stuff' and do the inventory forms, goods to follow etc at that time.

Then when I arrive at Canada I will explain to customs that I have this list but I am not 100% sure that I am staying yet. I will explain about my Mum dying etc.

Then after a couple of weeks in Canada if I do decide to stay for absolute sure, I will give the go ahead to my hubby (who is staying behind in Uk for a few months at least) to book the shippers and send my stuff.

Or I might just make a firm decsion that I am going for good and send my stuff ASAP, so it gets there ASAP.

Not quite sure yet.
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Old Jun 29th 2006, 5:48 pm
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There is a new development on the quotes-front that I thought may be of interest.....

The other day I had a quote from "Excess Baggage" for £1, 185 for approx 100 cubic feet. I thought this was really high and questioned it, but the guy said it was correct. The insurance was quoted at 5% and it was pack myself, door to door. There was also another fee, which I can't remember (and stupidly didn't write down because by that point in the conversation I had thought 'forget it').

Well today I had an email quote from "Mini-moves at Excess International", which I think was on the very same website, and it was for £678 with them packing/unpacking etc etc. The insurance was 3%. It then said 'this quote is based on us having a vehicle in your area'. So I have emailed back to ask them to clarify what they mean.

Seems weird that the same website has two totally different quotes dependant on me ringing them or emailing them.

Probably won't use them based on that alone.

But thought I would share this to help others when they come to ask the same questions that I am.

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Hi Kellie

We have just finished packing up all our boxes today - leaving next week.

We are using Excess Baggage and have 14 boxes - 8 are 51x41x61 and 6 are 51x41x27. You can fill each to a max of 35kg. In total we have packed clothing, photos, books, footware, Cd's ornaments etc. Total approx 400kg.

We are going to be paying around £1200 I believe - this will be confirmed either tomorrow or Thursday once they receive the boxes and weigh them. Then there is the additional insurance at 5% of the declared value.

We have been told to expect additional charges at the airport (Toronto) of around $150.

Once we get confirmed costs and exact weights I will post for info.

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Just thought I would let you know we just got confirmation of our shipping costs.

We are using Excess Baggage and had 15 boxes in total which weighed 440 kg.

We are using airfreight and the cost came in at £1,268, so my estimate was not too far out. We are also paying for insurance coverage at 5% of the actual value, so an additional £400 on top of that.

As I mentioned before we will also have to pay an additional $150 (approx) when we collect the stuff from Toronto airport.

Fingers crossed now that it all arrives safely.

Flying on Friday, sooooo excited!

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Just thought I would let you know we just got confirmation of our shipping costs.

We are using Excess Baggage and had 15 boxes in total which weighed 440 kg.

We are using airfreight and the cost came in at £1,268, so my estimate was not too far out. We are also paying for insurance coverage at 5% of the actual value, so an additional £400 on top of that.

As I mentioned before we will also have to pay an additional $150 (approx) when we collect the stuff from Toronto airport.

Fingers crossed now that it all arrives safely.

Flying on Friday, sooooo excited!

Jane

Thanks for that Jane. That price is over my budget, but I guess you have the advantage of it getting there more quickly by air.

You had 15 boxes- do you know what dimensions the boxes were and can you tell me did you find 15 boxes enough space for all your 'stuff'. How many people's stuff did you ship? I have mine and two children's stuff. I am planning to get the boxes this week I hope so I can start packing and get a better idea if I can afford to send all that I want to, or if i am going to have to make some sacrifices.

Good luck for Friday!! Where are you going to live?

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Thanks for that Jane. That price is over my budget, but I guess you have the advantage of it getting there more quickly by air.

You had 15 boxes- do you know what dimensions the boxes were and can you tell me did you find 15 boxes enough space for all your 'stuff'. How many people's stuff did you ship? I have mine and two children's stuff. I am planning to get the boxes this week I hope so I can start packing and get a better idea if I can afford to send all that I want to, or if i am going to have to make some sacrifices.

Good luck for Friday!! Where are you going to live?

Kellie
Hi Kellie

We had the following box dimensions 8 were 51x41x61 and 6 were 51x41x27, we also had one which was a combi of two boxes to fit some pictures in.

We only packed for the two of us and only packed things like books, CD's, clothing, footware, photos, camera, video camera, computer equip, ornaments and some tools.

We phoned Excess Baggage several weeks ago and got them to drop off a selection of boxes, they also include packing tape, bubble wrap etc. You can then request further boxes if you need them or return boxes you don't use. By some fluke, we used exactly the number we were sent and this was right for us.

Each box, regardless of size can only weigh a max of 35kg. We ended up having my hubby stand on the bathroom scales with boxes in order to make sure we were not over the limit. Some of this was very guess based, but the amount we guessed and the weight it actually was was pretty accurate.

Best idea is to do what we did and get some boxes delivered, perhaps more than you think you need and start filling and weighing.

Hope this helps, best of luck
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Hi Kellie

We had the following box dimensions 8 were 51x41x61 and 6 were 51x41x27, we also had one which was a combi of two boxes to fit some pictures in.

We only packed for the two of us and only packed things like books, CD's, clothing, footware, photos, camera, video camera, computer equip, ornaments and some tools.

We phoned Excess Baggage several weeks ago and got them to drop off a selection of boxes, they also include packing tape, bubble wrap etc. You can then request further boxes if you need them or return boxes you don't use. By some fluke, we used exactly the number we were sent and this was right for us.

Each box, regardless of size can only weigh a max of 35kg. We ended up having my hubby stand on the bathroom scales with boxes in order to make sure we were not over the limit. Some of this was very guess based, but the amount we guessed and the weight it actually was was pretty accurate.

Best idea is to do what we did and get some boxes delivered, perhaps more than you think you need and start filling and weighing.

Hope this helps, best of luck
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Thanks again

I think I will be doing what you suggest and just getting the boxes to start packing. Its the only way I am going to know how much stuff I actually need to take. I can pack up the stuff I am not going to need to hand, like photo albums etc and I can 'test pack' our clothes etc, to see how much space it takes up. I am going to have a big sort out whilst doing this and get rid of loads of stuff.

I'm thinking that shipping a whole bunch of kids clothes is pretty pointless because by the time they reach Canada they will have probably grown out of it. They are at that stage where they are due a load of new clothes, so I will just hold off until I get to Canada and get them some new stuff at Walmart. By the same token, I would say that like 80% of my clothes is crap I never wear, so I may as well get rid of it.

Do people think if I said to the kids they get one box each to pack their most favorite/sentimental toys, that would be enough? I don't want to be cruel but at the same time I am on a really tight budget (ie I will be arriving in Canada with no job, no home, and $2000 max!!-the more money I can save on shipping, the more money I will have for when we get there).

Also, I am thinking of spreading my photo albums out in all the boxes. That way if a box goes missing, then I've only lost a couple albums, rather than if one box goes missing and it happensd to be the box with all the photo albums. Alaso if I spread them out, it should help spread the weight around.

Anyways, i am rambling on with my ideas here.....so much to do, so little time, don't know where to start....

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I think I will be doing what you suggest and just getting the boxes to start packing. Its the only way I am going to know how much stuff I actually need to take. I can pack up the stuff I am not going to need to hand, like photo albums etc and I can 'test pack' our clothes etc, to see how much space it takes up. I am going to have a big sort out whilst doing this and get rid of loads of stuff.

I'm thinking that shipping a whole bunch of kids clothes is pretty pointless because by the time they reach Canada they will have probably grown out of it. They are at that stage where they are due a load of new clothes, so I will just hold off until I get to Canada and get them some new stuff at Walmart. By the same token, I would say that like 80% of my clothes is crap I never wear, so I may as well get rid of it.

Do people think if I said to the kids they get one box each to pack their most favorite/sentimental toys, that would be enough? I don't want to be cruel but at the same time I am on a really tight budget (ie I will be arriving in Canada with no job, no home, and $2000 max!!-the more money I can save on shipping, the more money I will have for when we get there).

Also, I am thinking of spreading my photo albums out in all the boxes. That way if a box goes missing, then I've only lost a couple albums, rather than if one box goes missing and it happensd to be the box with all the photo albums. Alaso if I spread them out, it should help spread the weight around.

Anyways, i am rambling on with my ideas here.....so much to do, so little time, don't know where to start....

Kellie
Hi Kellie

We had a lot of photo albums (pre digital days) and we spread them out over several boxes, mainly to distribute the weight. Although we also have albums with digital pics in, we also have all these on our computers and CD etc, so not so crucial.

We also took this chance to sort through all our belongings. Clothing got put into 3 piles - one to keep, one to bin and one to go to charity. We got rid of loads and the local charity shop loves us.

We also had over 200 CD's to take, so I ordered a load of thin plastic cases, which weigh next to nothing and we spent a couple of hours transferring all our CD's into the new cases. It saved about half the weight in total.

Paperwork was another thing we found we had kept, usually for no apparent reason. We had pay slips going back to the early 90's. WHY? The only trouble is, my hubby has his own business, so we have to keep all associated paperwork going back 6 years.

I'm sure that in months to come, we will be regretting getting rid of some things, but at the end of the day, most things can be replaced. With some items, like kitchen goods, I wrote down everything I threw away, so I have a list of things to re-buy when in Canada.

I have to say that I am quite excited at the prospect of buying all this new household stuff. We have been in out current house for nine years, so haven't really bought things like crockery, cutlery, utensils etc for years. How sad am I?

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Well, we went and picked up 15 boxes this evening! I plan to start packing tomorrow.

I can't wait to see how much space this stuff actually takes up. Its weird, one minute I am convinced that I will need less than 15 boxes and then the next minute I am panicking that 20 won't even be enough!!! I guess there really is only one way to find out and that will be by packing.

Some more questions:

When I type out all the items in each box, do I then tape this onto the actual box itself? If so, do I literally just tape the 4 sides of the page to the box?

In my 'master list' of all the items I am shipping, can I just type this out on an ordinary peice of paper and then fill in the official 'goods to accompany/goods to follow form' when I am at the airport? Am I right in thinking I would have 3 copies of my list-one for me, one for the shippers, and one for customs?

I will be entering Canada as a former resident (a Canadian Citizen who has lived in UK for 12 years). My kids will be entering Canada as Canadian citizens, but they are not returning residents because they never lived there. Is their property (ie toys, clothes etc) classed as my property for this purpose?

Will there be any other formalities for us at the airport that anyone can think of?

Thanks so much in advance

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I am trying to figure out the best and cheapest way to have my 'stuff' sent to Canada. By stuff I mean: photo albums,paperwork, sentimental nic nacs, toys we can't part with, clothes, and general belongings. I do not plan to send any furniture or kitchen supplies, or anything that can be replaced easily when there.

I have searched this forum and just called a couple of the companies reccomended (Anglo Pacific and Cargobookers) to try and get an idea of where to start with this. I have got off the phone feeling even more confused!

What I can't get my head around is what I need to tell them with regards to the amount of stuff I want to send. I just cannot seem to visualise in my head how many boxes I will need in order to get a quote. Anglo pacific said their boxes are 48x43x61 cm and cargobookers said their's are 50x50x50 cm.

The stuff will be going from the Midlands to London, Ontario. I'm a Canadian citizen, if that makes any difference.

Can anyone please help me on this? I would like to hear from the people who just shipped over 'stuff'. How many boxes did you need in order to accomodate your stuff? How should I go about getting a good quote. i am afraid that because I feel so thick about all of this, they are going to try to rip me off. Already I had conflicting info. AP told me door to door service is no problem, whereas CB told me that I would have to pick the stuff up in Toronto.

Anyways, I just need to get quotes at this stage but I can't seem to figure out what to say to them. I explained I was having trouble imagining how many boxes to the girl on the phone. I asked if she had any idea of the average amount of boxes people in my situation used and she said she had no idea and I must give her a figure in order for her to work out a quote.

I feel so thick! Any help would be gratefully received.

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