How does this country survive?
Dec 4th 2006, 1:13 pm
#376
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by printer
I've been on the M25 on a Friday aftenoon completely stationary due to major accident, the whole motorway was closed. It took 2 hours to do about 2 miles and then we all had to be diverted off the next junction. 3 lanes of motorway traffic going off onto a normal A road, it was hell.
On two occasions this year I have taken the bus from Brighton to Heathrow. Much of the trip is on the M25. Even with stops, including two at Gatwick, and drivers that don't break the speed limit, the trip only takes two hours.
Dec 4th 2006, 1:18 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by dbd33
I'm sure it was but that's an example of an incident with a cause. The 401 is 16 lanes of vehicles going at 11mph when nothing goes wrong. Many of those vehicles are trucks which, I suppose, may account for the dreadful air quality here.
As it goes, we sat in a jam on a motorway in the UK recently while an accident was cleaned up, three lanes had to merge to one, it was watching that that prompted my comment above about UK drivers being more polite than those here.
As it goes, we sat in a jam on a motorway in the UK recently while an accident was cleaned up, three lanes had to merge to one, it was watching that that prompted my comment above about UK drivers being more polite than those here.
Dec 4th 2006, 1:24 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by Souvenir
OK, you're talking about a major accident. The 401 around TO is a nightmare all of the time.
On two occasions this year I have taken the bus from Brighton to Heathrow. Much of the trip is on the M25. Even with stops, including two at Gatwick, and drivers that don't break the speed limit, the trip only takes two hours.
On two occasions this year I have taken the bus from Brighton to Heathrow. Much of the trip is on the M25. Even with stops, including two at Gatwick, and drivers that don't break the speed limit, the trip only takes two hours.
We often go to Brighton for a day out on a Sunday and there is usually no problems.
Dec 4th 2006, 1:32 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by printer
That's my point. You have been on it twice this year. Try going on it every day and then working out how many good days you have had. It would be highly unusual for a day to go by without an accident or a breakdown in one lane and then of course there are the roadworks. You see the sign that says "roadworks, repairing carriageway" or similar from today for 48 weeks!!
We often go to Brighton for a day out on a Sunday and there is usually no problems.
We often go to Brighton for a day out on a Sunday and there is usually no problems.
Dec 4th 2006, 2:07 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by dbd33
In the UK, perhaps, expressing some unfashionable opinions in Canada is an offense.
But the main point I was trying to make was, whatever the opinion, expressing it in a positive way - that gives room for the possibility of being wrong - always goes down way better.
I'm eating chocolate right now - there, something positive
Dec 4th 2006, 2:10 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by Suzie
I've found unfashionable opinions are equally unwelcome anywhere - that's why they're unfashionable
But the main point I was trying to make was, whatever the opinion, expressing it in a positive way - that gives room for the possibility of being wrong - always goes down way better.
I'm eating chocolate right now - there, something positive
But the main point I was trying to make was, whatever the opinion, expressing it in a positive way - that gives room for the possibility of being wrong - always goes down way better.
I'm eating chocolate right now - there, something positive
I thought fruit was the way to go these days.
Dec 4th 2006, 2:23 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by printer
You're eating chocolate? How unfashionable.
I thought fruit was the way to go these days.
I thought fruit was the way to go these days.
But thanks for reminding me, I have a nice pineapple that needs eating...mmm...pineapple...
Dec 4th 2006, 2:30 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by Suzie
It is, but fruit in an advent calendar doesn't really keep too well
But thanks for reminding me, I have a nice pineapple that needs eating...mmm...pineapple...
But thanks for reminding me, I have a nice pineapple that needs eating...mmm...pineapple...
It's funny how you rarely see normal advent calendars these days, they all seem to contain sweets/chocolates of some kind. My kids have one each and my OH as well. When the dog was still alive she got one too!!!!
Dec 4th 2006, 2:32 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by printer
Ah you didn't mention the advent calendar bit.
It's funny how you rarely see normal advent calendars these days, they all seem to contain sweets/chocolates of some kind. My kids have one each and my OH as well. When the dog was still alive she got one too!!!!
It's funny how you rarely see normal advent calendars these days, they all seem to contain sweets/chocolates of some kind. My kids have one each and my OH as well. When the dog was still alive she got one too!!!!
What is a 'normal' advent calendar to you then printer? Never heard of anything BUT sweets/chocolates in them.
Dec 4th 2006, 2:38 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by Daedra
Uhhh... dunno if I should ask, but dying to know now
What is a 'normal' advent calendar to you then printer? Never heard of anything BUT sweets/chocolates in them.
What is a 'normal' advent calendar to you then printer? Never heard of anything BUT sweets/chocolates in them.
Least that was it in my day, unless my mum had removed all the chocolates before giving it to me.
Dec 4th 2006, 2:42 pm
#386
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by printer
You open the door and there is a picture behind it. That's it.
Least that was it in my day, unless my mum had removed all the chocolates before giving it to me.
Least that was it in my day, unless my mum had removed all the chocolates before giving it to me.
Dec 4th 2006, 2:45 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by Bleech
What a boring advent calendar that would be
Now i could get used to that.
Dec 4th 2006, 2:48 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by printer
I've been on the M25 on a Friday aftenoon completely stationary due to major accident, the whole motorway was closed. It took 2 hours to do about 2 miles and then we all had to be diverted off the next junction. 3 lanes of motorway traffic going off onto a normal A road, it was hell.
Back in 2000-2001 I drove from Gaydon, Warks to Essex via M40-M25-A12 every Friday for 18mths or so. I generally left Gaydon around 1-3pm and pretty much every time spent 2 hrs on the M25 either stationary or crawling along. And that was 6 years ago.
I imagine from what little I've seen of it the GTA is as bad or worse. Hence I have as little desire to live there as I do in the South East of England!
Dec 4th 2006, 3:24 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by kt0157
I wonder how much that is caused by the media reports of casual violence. It's certainly creating an atmosphere of "everybody's at it". It's a much smaller step from that to "I can do it too".
K.
K.
You seem to be infatuated with media encitement but it seems to me that you have made that an issue, believing only whaqt you want to. Speak to those at the coalface.
J
Dec 4th 2006, 3:48 pm
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Re: How does this country survive?
Originally Posted by Sorbz62
You seem to be infatuated with media encitement but it seems to me that you have made that an issue, believing only whaqt you want to. Speak to those at the coalface.
K.