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Old Aug 23rd 2007, 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Boulder
It is mother nature's territory, these bears and deer were actually there before the farmer.

I live in the part of the world that is all farming and the sensible ones border their land with intelligent system rather than a few hedges etc. and then get surprised when animals come on the land.

The short term solution you are talking about is what lead us here today.
With all due respect you cant really compare the deer situation in compact overpopulated britain with Canada. How often do you see deer on you commute? Ive had at least 4 near misses on my daily drive, and I mean "whites of the eyes" near misses, hoof print on the bonnet stuff. Have you had a bear in your backyard? Do racoons routinely cause millions of dollars worth of property damage there? Prey tell, apart from the F150 pickup truck, what is a natural preditor for a racoon anyway?

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Old Aug 23rd 2007, 8:03 pm
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Originally Posted by iaink
With all due respect you cant really compare the deer situation in compact overpopulated britain with Canada. How often do you see deer on you commute? Ive had at least 4 near misses on my daily drive, and I mean "whites of the eyes" near misses, hoof print on the bonnet stuff. Have you had a bear in your backyard? Do racoons routinely cause millions of dollars worth of property damage there? Prey tell, apart from the F150 pickup truck, what is a natural preditor for a racoon anyway?
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You think dbd33 is natural
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Originally Posted by Boulder
The animal populations in mother nature don't need 'control'. It is called ecology. The size of pupulations are affected by the amount of food,the natural food chain and the environment.

If controlling populations was necessary then we should start with the human population.

Mother nature has taken care of the world long before humans came along and it only takes a wider persective to appreciate all the worlds ecological problems we are facing today is because man thinks he knows how to control.
ecology includes humans, hunting to preserve your way of life is part of ecology
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You think dbd33 is natural
I dont think he'd lose any sleep over it
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Such as what?
That is the point if you have to ask. That is why some farmers are pro hunting and some are against it.
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I dont think he'd lose any sleep over it
I do hate them but, touch wood, I think the local ones have been exterminated.
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Originally Posted by iaink
With all due respect you cant really compare the deer situation in compact overpopulated britain with Canada. How often do you see deer on you commute? Ive had at least 4 near misses on my daily drive, and I mean "whites of the eyes" near misses, hoof print on the bonnet stuff. Have you had a bear in your backyard? Do racoons routinely cause millions of dollars worth of property damage there? Prey tell, apart from the F150 pickup truck, what is a natural preditor for a racoon anyway?
With all due respect, I wasn't. Britain is not the only country and nor is Canada.
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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray
ecology includes humans, hunting to preserve your way of life is part of ecology
Oh dear!!
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Originally Posted by Boulder
That is the point if you have to ask. That is why some farmers are pro hunting and some are against it.
Huh? Farmers very much like to hunt; coyotes, foxes, deer, every animal is a threat to something on the farm. The question though was what sort of barrier is intelligent, are you think of those WiFi robot fences that move with the cattle?
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Originally Posted by Boulder
With all due respect, I wasn't. Britain is not the only country and nor is Canada.
So what the hell were you talking about? no one else seems to know and you dont seem to want to explain! Given that its a thread partly about hunting in Canada, and its on a british expat website and your location is "England" its seemed a reasonable supposition.

I too live in the part of the world that is all farming, and the deer are a dangerous nuisance at times!

Please, tell us about your near misses, bear encounters, raccoon restraint alternatives and what these "intelligent systems" are.

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Oh dear!!
What can the matter be??
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Old Aug 23rd 2007, 8:27 pm
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Now the menace is the groundhog. Much shooting of groundhogs goes on around us.
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Now the menace is the groundhog. Much shooting of groundhogs goes on around us.
In these days of tractors, its not really justified, but if you have cows, or still plough with horses the holes can cause broken legs, and you dont often see cows or horses with casts
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Now the menace is the groundhog. Much shooting of groundhogs goes on around us.
I am pretty annoyed with whatever is eating the tomatoes and peppers i am growing, so if i were a farmer I would be incandescent. Not that that would help when hunting as the animals would see you

Do skunks eat tomatoes??? or maybe groundhog?
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