Had enough of UK now...Starting process ASAP!!!!
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Had enough of UK now...Starting process ASAP!!!!
We were determined before but after this week-end it is now set in stone.
OH went to meet friends after work on Sat for a few pints(was installing heating in a friends house). At approx 11pm a little no-mark to-rag decided to cause trouble.OH decided to leave as he could not be bothered arguing with a 17/18 year old KID! and as his back was turned the little ***** smashed a bottle and threw it at him. As he turned to face the lad he threw another bottle which hit him on the head and smashed(Hope the police get hold of the lad before OH does!!) -Was in hospital from 1am Sat morning till 8pm last night...X-Rays/CT scans and a specialist later he has a fractured skull and possible damage in his right ear due to the blow. I don't understand why in this day and age somebody would do that...It has confirmed what we originally wanted, a nicer area to live and work and where we can bring (future) children up. I know there's trouble in all areas but we don't want to be scared to go out with friends for a drink incase some mindeless yob takes it upon himself to cause trouble!
Sorry rant over!!!!!
P.S We're not packing up because of this-Been looking seriously into things for 1.5 years!!!
OH went to meet friends after work on Sat for a few pints(was installing heating in a friends house). At approx 11pm a little no-mark to-rag decided to cause trouble.OH decided to leave as he could not be bothered arguing with a 17/18 year old KID! and as his back was turned the little ***** smashed a bottle and threw it at him. As he turned to face the lad he threw another bottle which hit him on the head and smashed(Hope the police get hold of the lad before OH does!!) -Was in hospital from 1am Sat morning till 8pm last night...X-Rays/CT scans and a specialist later he has a fractured skull and possible damage in his right ear due to the blow. I don't understand why in this day and age somebody would do that...It has confirmed what we originally wanted, a nicer area to live and work and where we can bring (future) children up. I know there's trouble in all areas but we don't want to be scared to go out with friends for a drink incase some mindeless yob takes it upon himself to cause trouble!
Sorry rant over!!!!!
P.S We're not packing up because of this-Been looking seriously into things for 1.5 years!!!
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Re: Had enough of UK now...Starting process ASAP!!!!
That's awful! Hope your husband is OK. We already had kids when we moved over and that was one of the many reasons we decided to make the move.
Our kids go off on their own here to play and meet up with friends which I wouldn't have let them do in the UK although the concept took a bit of getting used to!
Whereabouts are you hoping to move to? Best of luck with it all and fingers crossed that your husband is OK and that all your plans work out for you.
Our kids go off on their own here to play and meet up with friends which I wouldn't have let them do in the UK although the concept took a bit of getting used to!
Whereabouts are you hoping to move to? Best of luck with it all and fingers crossed that your husband is OK and that all your plans work out for you.
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Re: Had enough of UK now...Starting process ASAP!!!!
*reads Vancouver shooting thread, puts head back in sand*
Vancouver is consistently rated one of the best cities to live. I'm sure the people shot this weekend would disagree. Wherever you are sounds like a craphole and is probably a world apart from omagh(ireland),Richmond, norwich, Cambridge princes risborough, gerrards cross, st albans, oxford, berkhamsted in fact any of the five counties.
I have a friend who lives in peterborough, Ontario who I talk to on a daily basis and the picture she has painted in finding a guy that isn't popping percoset/cocaine is unsettling for a town that is spacious(UK standards) and has a population less than the average English town.
Emigrate by all means but expect chavs saying innit and wearing jogging bottoms off to deal an eighth of weed to be replaced by a gun toting 50 cent inspired drug dealers. It'll be a lot more frustrating if you get robbed at gun point and your family are 3000 miles away and a different time zone.
Vancouver is consistently rated one of the best cities to live. I'm sure the people shot this weekend would disagree. Wherever you are sounds like a craphole and is probably a world apart from omagh(ireland),Richmond, norwich, Cambridge princes risborough, gerrards cross, st albans, oxford, berkhamsted in fact any of the five counties.
I have a friend who lives in peterborough, Ontario who I talk to on a daily basis and the picture she has painted in finding a guy that isn't popping percoset/cocaine is unsettling for a town that is spacious(UK standards) and has a population less than the average English town.
Emigrate by all means but expect chavs saying innit and wearing jogging bottoms off to deal an eighth of weed to be replaced by a gun toting 50 cent inspired drug dealers. It'll be a lot more frustrating if you get robbed at gun point and your family are 3000 miles away and a different time zone.
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Re: Had enough of UK now...Starting process ASAP!!!!
Hiya
Thank you , Yeah he should be ok, Thought he may have to have surgery but thankfully the specialst advised that it should heal naturally (after removing a shard of bone from the gash above his eye-I seriously went a bit grey even stuff like that doesn't usually bother me!!)
Something of similar ilk happened a year or so ago whereby we were abused for not giving a 14 or so year old a cigarette (even though we don't smoke) something that that lad as a 14/15 year old said shocked me and to this day i haven't forgot it which has added onto this incident...We moved from a not so fantastic area where nothing in the time i had lived there (practically all my life!) to the area we live in now which is considered a "good" area and stuff like this occurrs!!!
We have been looking into the Calgary area, I spoke to you a while ago i think (OH is heating engineer...was asking about areas, recce and what not???) although I know those type of question get asked alot!!!!
Thank you , Yeah he should be ok, Thought he may have to have surgery but thankfully the specialst advised that it should heal naturally (after removing a shard of bone from the gash above his eye-I seriously went a bit grey even stuff like that doesn't usually bother me!!)
Something of similar ilk happened a year or so ago whereby we were abused for not giving a 14 or so year old a cigarette (even though we don't smoke) something that that lad as a 14/15 year old said shocked me and to this day i haven't forgot it which has added onto this incident...We moved from a not so fantastic area where nothing in the time i had lived there (practically all my life!) to the area we live in now which is considered a "good" area and stuff like this occurrs!!!
We have been looking into the Calgary area, I spoke to you a while ago i think (OH is heating engineer...was asking about areas, recce and what not???) although I know those type of question get asked alot!!!!
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Re: Had enough of UK now...Starting process ASAP!!!!
*reads Vancouver shooting thread, puts head back in sand*
Vancouver is consistently rated one of the best cities to live. I'm sure the people shot this weekend would disagree. Wherever you are sounds like a craphole and is probably a world apart from omagh(ireland),Richmond, norwich, Cambridge princes risborough, gerrards cross, st albans, oxford, berkhamsted in fact any of the five counties.
I have a friend who lives in peterborough, Ontario who I talk to on a daily basis and the picture she has painted in finding a guy that isn't popping percoset/cocaine is unsettling for a town that is spacious(UK standards) and has a population less than the average English town.
Emigrate by all means but expect chavs saying innit and wearing jogging bottoms off to deal an eighth of weed to be replaced by a gun toting 50 cent inspired drug dealers. It'll be a lot more frustrating if you get robbed at gun point and your family are 3000 miles away and a different time zone.
Vancouver is consistently rated one of the best cities to live. I'm sure the people shot this weekend would disagree. Wherever you are sounds like a craphole and is probably a world apart from omagh(ireland),Richmond, norwich, Cambridge princes risborough, gerrards cross, st albans, oxford, berkhamsted in fact any of the five counties.
I have a friend who lives in peterborough, Ontario who I talk to on a daily basis and the picture she has painted in finding a guy that isn't popping percoset/cocaine is unsettling for a town that is spacious(UK standards) and has a population less than the average English town.
Emigrate by all means but expect chavs saying innit and wearing jogging bottoms off to deal an eighth of weed to be replaced by a gun toting 50 cent inspired drug dealers. It'll be a lot more frustrating if you get robbed at gun point and your family are 3000 miles away and a different time zone.
I know i know, however we were emigrating anyway so as i said this just confirmed what we already were looking into doing. Hmmm so may some it's a craphole but some may say it's a booming city full of opportunity depends on that person! I'm not going to say which area it is just that it was capital of culture 2008 (that is seriously not a boast just a hint ha ha!!!)
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Actually, unless you intend to make a living by importing and exporting class A/B drugs Vancouver is a very peaceful and safe city. I imagine Calgary to be the same.
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Hiya
Thank you , Yeah he should be ok, Thought he may have to have surgery but thankfully the specialst advised that it should heal naturally (after removing a shard of bone from the gash above his eye-I seriously went a bit grey even stuff like that doesn't usually bother me!!)
Something of similar ilk happened a year or so ago whereby we were abused for not giving a 14 or so year old a cigarette (even though we don't smoke) something that that lad as a 14/15 year old said shocked me and to this day i haven't forgot it which has added onto this incident...We moved from a not so fantastic area where nothing in the time i had lived there (practically all my life!) to the area we live in now which is considered a "good" area and stuff like this occurrs!!!
We have been looking into the Calgary area, I spoke to you a while ago i think (OH is heating engineer...was asking about areas, recce and what not???) although I know those type of question get asked alot!!!!
Thank you , Yeah he should be ok, Thought he may have to have surgery but thankfully the specialst advised that it should heal naturally (after removing a shard of bone from the gash above his eye-I seriously went a bit grey even stuff like that doesn't usually bother me!!)
Something of similar ilk happened a year or so ago whereby we were abused for not giving a 14 or so year old a cigarette (even though we don't smoke) something that that lad as a 14/15 year old said shocked me and to this day i haven't forgot it which has added onto this incident...We moved from a not so fantastic area where nothing in the time i had lived there (practically all my life!) to the area we live in now which is considered a "good" area and stuff like this occurrs!!!
We have been looking into the Calgary area, I spoke to you a while ago i think (OH is heating engineer...was asking about areas, recce and what not???) although I know those type of question get asked alot!!!!
We may well have spoken before - sorry, head like a sieve sometimes! Anyway, always happy to help if I can so feel free to fire away if you do have any questions that I may be able to help with.
All the best
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Re: Had enough of UK now...Starting process ASAP!!!!
We were determined before but after this week-end it is now set in stone.
OH went to meet friends after work on Sat for a few pints(was installing heating in a friends house). At approx 11pm a little no-mark to-rag decided to cause trouble.OH decided to leave as he could not be bothered arguing with a 17/18 year old KID! and as his back was turned the little ***** smashed a bottle and threw it at him. As he turned to face the lad he threw another bottle which hit him on the head and smashed(Hope the police get hold of the lad before OH does!!) -Was in hospital from 1am Sat morning till 8pm last night...X-Rays/CT scans and a specialist later he has a fractured skull and possible damage in his right ear due to the blow. I don't understand why in this day and age somebody would do that...It has confirmed what we originally wanted, a nicer area to live and work and where we can bring (future) children up. I know there's trouble in all areas but we don't want to be scared to go out with friends for a drink incase some mindeless yob takes it upon himself to cause trouble!
Sorry rant over!!!!!
P.S We're not packing up because of this-Been looking seriously into things for 1.5 years!!!
OH went to meet friends after work on Sat for a few pints(was installing heating in a friends house). At approx 11pm a little no-mark to-rag decided to cause trouble.OH decided to leave as he could not be bothered arguing with a 17/18 year old KID! and as his back was turned the little ***** smashed a bottle and threw it at him. As he turned to face the lad he threw another bottle which hit him on the head and smashed(Hope the police get hold of the lad before OH does!!) -Was in hospital from 1am Sat morning till 8pm last night...X-Rays/CT scans and a specialist later he has a fractured skull and possible damage in his right ear due to the blow. I don't understand why in this day and age somebody would do that...It has confirmed what we originally wanted, a nicer area to live and work and where we can bring (future) children up. I know there's trouble in all areas but we don't want to be scared to go out with friends for a drink incase some mindeless yob takes it upon himself to cause trouble!
Sorry rant over!!!!!
P.S We're not packing up because of this-Been looking seriously into things for 1.5 years!!!
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The only violence/crime I've ever experienced was when I lived in Canada! Both countries have their good and bad places, and it just depends on where you are I guess.
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Of course, that's also achievable in the UK. Certainly my children play out on the street and I have no worries about it at all.
The only violence/crime I've ever experienced was when I lived in Canada! Both countries have their good and bad places, and it just depends on where you are I guess.
The only violence/crime I've ever experienced was when I lived in Canada! Both countries have their good and bad places, and it just depends on where you are I guess.
There isn't really any violence near us, but the chav culture of hanging around street corners, spitting, chucking fag ends down etc is what I don't like! But you get that everywhere really don't you? My 2 older boys were approached when we were in Nova Scotia and were asked where you could buy weed!!
That's life!
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Re: Had enough of UK now...Starting process ASAP!!!!
Of course, that's also achievable in the UK. Certainly my children play out on the street and I have no worries about it at all.
The only violence/crime I've ever experienced was when I lived in Canada! Both countries have their good and bad places, and it just depends on where you are I guess.
The only violence/crime I've ever experienced was when I lived in Canada! Both countries have their good and bad places, and it just depends on where you are I guess.
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Re: Had enough of UK now...Starting process ASAP!!!!
Of course, that's also achievable in the UK. Certainly my children play out on the street and I have no worries about it at all.
The only violence/crime I've ever experienced was when I lived in Canada! Both countries have their good and bad places, and it just depends on where you are I guess.
The only violence/crime I've ever experienced was when I lived in Canada! Both countries have their good and bad places, and it just depends on where you are I guess.
I am not saying that the whole of UK is a no go zone but if you live in an area that is increasing in crime which wasn`t before can make you feel apprenhensive and a little more overprotective.
We just feel that our move to Canada has been very beneficial to us but we do still miss our little village as it was steeped in history and looking forward to our visit back next year as it will have been 3 years since being back.
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Hi All
It's very interesting getting people's views, Myself and OH are a young(ish) couple who work hard for what we've got and where we are now which is why i find it hard to believe that mindless yobs are basically taking over...taking over to the point which makes you not want to walk your dog in the park or go for a drink with friends.
I know incidents like what has happened to us can happen anywhere but from looking into the area and from peoples own experiences then it is far less likely that a 17/18 year old kid will think it is "the norm" to pick up and throw not 1 but 2 bottles at a person and seriously injure them.I don't want to bring children up in that environment which is why we are holding off now until we make the move, I hate to think that I am actually not surprised by this and have come to consider that this is normal and happens to people every week-end which in it's own right is quite disturbing! Our city personally i think it is great and particulary now with Christmas is full of things to do and see however these kids that have been dragged up rather than brought up are putting the older generation on edge to the point where you don't want to venture anywhere and get nervous if you see a gang of youths together!
Don't get me wrong we're not a shy retiring couple wereby we would let kids like that walk all over us but it has literally got to the point where even we are questioning everything...OH is now not going on his works Christmas night out and I'm just having the meal then going home-It's just not worth the possible bother!
It's very interesting getting people's views, Myself and OH are a young(ish) couple who work hard for what we've got and where we are now which is why i find it hard to believe that mindless yobs are basically taking over...taking over to the point which makes you not want to walk your dog in the park or go for a drink with friends.
I know incidents like what has happened to us can happen anywhere but from looking into the area and from peoples own experiences then it is far less likely that a 17/18 year old kid will think it is "the norm" to pick up and throw not 1 but 2 bottles at a person and seriously injure them.I don't want to bring children up in that environment which is why we are holding off now until we make the move, I hate to think that I am actually not surprised by this and have come to consider that this is normal and happens to people every week-end which in it's own right is quite disturbing! Our city personally i think it is great and particulary now with Christmas is full of things to do and see however these kids that have been dragged up rather than brought up are putting the older generation on edge to the point where you don't want to venture anywhere and get nervous if you see a gang of youths together!
Don't get me wrong we're not a shy retiring couple wereby we would let kids like that walk all over us but it has literally got to the point where even we are questioning everything...OH is now not going on his works Christmas night out and I'm just having the meal then going home-It's just not worth the possible bother!