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Old Jun 6th 2014, 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Jericho79 View Post
The only thing that America has proven is that more guns = more gun crime. You cannot deny that fact.

Countries with tight gun laws have lower gun crime. Fact.

The problem with America is that they have gone beyond the point of no return- there are simply too many guns, and no amount of gun control imposed now will make a significant difference. Illegal gun owners wont care, and legal gun owners will kick off royally if they are forced to hand them in.

More guns is not the answer.
Prime example,Chicago banned carrying of firearms,crime and gun crime shot up,last year they reversed that law and guess what?
Crime,and gun crimes have DROPPED!

Just because you don't like firearms does NOT mean that you are right,like it or lump it more legal firearms does NOT mean more crime or firearm related crimes!

This falls back to the Education is better than ignorance as EVERYTIME there is a shooting the anti's crawl out of the woodwork screaming for a ban on legally owned firearms,wether those firearms are legal or not.
Look how fast the mass stabbings in Calgary disappeared,or the mass stabbings in those 2 malls.

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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...un-myths-shot/


People have a tendancy to fear what they do not understand(or like),sad but true.
We could say lets ban sports cars as they are designed to go faster than the speed limit which is illegal couldn't we?
Lets ban radar detectors as only a criminal breaking the speed limit law needs a radar detector right?
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Old Jun 6th 2014, 1:27 pm
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This man could easily be as dangerous with a frying pan.
Indeed. He needn't have his own gun and ammo, he could simply whack the bullets back at anyone shooting at him.

And while on the run he could stay nourished from having a nice fry-up.
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Originally Posted by neilg14 View Post
They've arrested the suspect with him apparently saying "I'm done."
Amazingly, no further shoot outs or murders, or a suicide. Criminals these days, - no commitment.

Now the tax payer gets to spend millions of dollars on a court case and keeping him in custody for the rest of his life. An unmarked grave would have been much better value.
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Old Jun 6th 2014, 2:21 pm
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I thought for sure this would end in "suicide by cop". Rather surprised it didn't, in the end, but glad it was a peaceful resolution.
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Old Jun 6th 2014, 2:39 pm
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Let's hope it's a long long time until the next one.
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Originally Posted by SchnookoLoly View Post
I thought for sure this would end in "suicide by cop". Rather surprised it didn't, in the end, but glad it was a peaceful resolution.
If he wanted them to kill him he could have kept shooting at them. Maybe he changed his mind. I hope the stupid asshole has a terrible rest of his life.
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No doubt some inmates will treat him like a "hero"

Perhaps his assigned pysch can prescribe him a full frontal lobe lobotomy?

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I hope the stupid asshole has a terrible rest of his life.
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Originally Posted by caretaker View Post
If he wanted them to kill him he could have kept shooting at them. Maybe he changed his mind. I hope the stupid asshole has a terrible rest of his life.
That's what I meant - when he was on the run, I was assuming that he'd be cornered, would start shooting, and would be killed in the process. And I was pleasantly surprised that that didn't happen because it means no more cops died or were injured.

I hope he rots.
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I hope he rots.
Even if it turns out he has a mental illness?
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Old Jun 6th 2014, 3:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Jericho79 View Post
Even if it turns out he has a mental illness?
If he's actually diagnosed as having an illness then I hope he gets the help he needs. But with everything that's been found on his facebook, and how cold and calculated this whole thing has appeared to be (specifically targeting cops, not just going on a shooting spree, and then successfully hiding for 30 hours) I'm guessing it was all calculated.
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Well, he got thar rihgt at least. If you must go on a killing spree, cops is better than school kids.
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Originally Posted by SchnookoLoly View Post
If he's actually diagnosed as having an illness then I hope he gets the help he needs. But with everything that's been found on his facebook, and how cold and calculated this whole thing has appeared to be (specifically targeting cops, not just going on a shooting spree, and then successfully hiding for 30 hours) I'm guessing it was all calculated.
I dont think anyone is doubting that it was a calculated assault, but that doesnt have anything to do with whether or not he was sick.

PS- i'm not suggesting he was mentally ill- i dont know either way- but in most of these cases, it's a very difficult argument to show that there wasnt some kind of mental deficiency. Rational, sane people, dont usually go on shooting sprees. Crazy people do.
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Really glad this is over and it wasn't a death by cop situation!

Just to add my twopenneth worth into the guns debate- I think the main problem with America is that they don't have free healthcare, specifically mental healthcare, and people simply cannot afford it privately. It's the disturbed people that go into schools and cinemas with guns ablazing, or shoot their mothers because there is a price on mental health that families just cannot afford if they are not blessed with health insurance one way or another.

Of course there are those that should be in institutions or at least seeing a professional who don't in countries with mental healthcare available for all, as is evident in this case, but the same can be said for Raoul Moat, etc, there will be always anomalties but I think this particular problem makes a drastic difference.
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Originally Posted by scootb View Post
Prime example,Chicago banned carrying of firearms,crime and gun crime shot up,last year they reversed that law and guess what?
Crime,and gun crimes have DROPPED!

Just because you don't like firearms does NOT mean that you are right,like it or lump it more legal firearms does NOT mean more crime or firearm related crimes!

This falls back to the Education is better than ignorance as EVERYTIME there is a shooting the anti's crawl out of the woodwork screaming for a ban on legally owned firearms,wether those firearms are legal or not.
Look how fast the mass stabbings in Calgary disappeared,or the mass stabbings in those 2 malls.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/3608104196001

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...un-myths-shot/


People have a tendancy to fear what they do not understand(or like),sad but true.
We could say lets ban sports cars as they are designed to go faster than the speed limit which is illegal couldn't we?
Lets ban radar detectors as only a criminal breaking the speed limit law needs a radar detector right?
Yeah. A year is a really good sample time where statistics are likely to be accurate and conclusive.

I'd say education and ignorance is looking at an inconclusive stat in isolation.

Show concrete data over time from a wider sample before running your mouth and lecturing others.
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Originally Posted by Jericho79 View Post
Even if it turns out he has a mental illness?
Hard to prove he was mentally ill if he singled out "cops only" to kill. That sounds like he had a well thought out plan, and he was also able to set up and use a Facebook account.

But yeh maybe a good lawyer could go for the mental angle and have him out back into society in just a few years. Under a new name of course.
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