Guarantor for PR card
 

Hi
What have other people done about a guarantor on their PR card application? I am finding it difficult to find someone and I need to leave Canada in May on business.

Re: Guarantor for PR card
 

Sorry I don't understand what you mean as we weren't asked for one. We completed our landing and the PR cards were sent to us a few weeks later (without having to fill in any separate forms).

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MMmmmm, we have received zip! I was a returning resident, maybe that was the problem as I travelled on a returning residents permit

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Yes, people who were already PRs (not new ones landing) have to apply for the card themselves. If you don't have a guarantor, go to a lawyer and pay him to do the "declaration in lieu of guarantor" instead. It cost me about $60 to have that done when I applied. No idea about how long it will take, but it shouldn't be that bad now that the big crush is over.

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Hi Sysclp
Thanks for that, that is what I wanted to know. At least I'll be able to get a guarantor and get the application sent off

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Why bother and worry? According to Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink, the moderator, you don't need a PR card. They're a waste of time. Air Canada says so!

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So you agree with me now? Ah good :)

Re: Guarantor for PR card
 

Absolutely not. Always check out the source of your information .... and yours was???

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To enter Canada from a visa free country, you need a valid passport of that country - nothing more, regardless of your status in Canada. You can declare yourself as a PR to Canadian immigration when you reach there. The source for that would be CIC.

We discussed last time that it'd be rather discriminatory for CIC to effectively create a 2 tier PR system and flaunt the fact that visa waiver nationals do not need a PR card for entering Canada by commercial carrier, so they don't. Air Canada are honest about it in their policy as quoted to you last time.

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I think I argued that there would not be a two-tier system and you argued the opposite. It is irrelevant where you come from once you are a PR of Canada - you should have a PR card when returning from a trip outside of Canada - that is very specifically stated on the CIC site. Forget visa waiver, it's irrelevant.

Re: Guarantor for PR card
 

Permanent residents have a right to be admitted to Canada whether they have a PR Card or not - section 19(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) is your reference.

IRPA overrides whatever is said on the CIC site.



But it is relevant as if you have a visa waiver passport an airline has no basis to ask you for a PR Card. How are they going to know in the first place? - people don't go around with "PERMANENT RESIDENT" stamped on their foreheads.



Jeremy

Re: Guarantor for PR card
 

Who are you? You fly an Australian flag and try to be authoritative on a Canadian site? If all you say is true please explain to me and others why the Canadian government bothered to bring out the PR card - was it to use surplus plastic?

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It's not irrelevant, visa waiver nationals can board commercial craft to Canada on the strength of that alone, others cannot.

There is a two tier system, what I said was I don't think CIC like to shout about it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Edit: why did they introduce the cards? -I never saw an IMM1000 but I gather it was a piece of paper and easily forged. The cards have a ton of security features.

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I think I remember you saying something like this before. So, for you, and that guy in Australia, this is your version of how it is:
People from all over the world apply to become permanent residents of Canada. However, there are already two distinct 'groups': those from countries where visas to visit Canada is necessary and those from countries where visas are not necessary.
Becoming Permanent Residents of Canada does not equalise these two groups. Their status remains: those from countries which did not need a visa to visit Canada are blessed with a total no need for PR cards when returning to Canada by commercial carrier. However, those from nations who needed a visa to visit Canada are subjected to the same requirements and must have a PR card!
This is Canada. Are you pulling my plonker?

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True, and they don't go around with "IDIOT" stamped on their forehead either, or "second class permanent resident of Canada".