Good Points, Bad Points
#48
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Re: Good Points, Bad Points
I'm getting completely confused here.
Myself and my wife are planning to move to Canada next year but by the looks of it, it seems to be a higher percentage of bad points rather then good points.
I do realise that Canada have taxes on most things which can work out expensive and car insurance is expensive etc etc, but I was under the impression that housing was cheaper but then they're people saying it's the same cost as the UK which means it's bloody expensive.
So my question is whats the point of going through all the hassle of trying to get a job offer then sorting your visa out if people are saying "yeah it's sort of ok here in Canada"
We were getting so excited about starting a nice life in Canada but now were just thinking why do so many English move there if it's only kind of ok?
I'm not having ago it's just frustrating when your so looking forward to starting a new life in such a beautiful country and you see something like this thread and it can completely put you off the idea.
Please someone prove me wrong.
Myself and my wife are planning to move to Canada next year but by the looks of it, it seems to be a higher percentage of bad points rather then good points.
I do realise that Canada have taxes on most things which can work out expensive and car insurance is expensive etc etc, but I was under the impression that housing was cheaper but then they're people saying it's the same cost as the UK which means it's bloody expensive.
So my question is whats the point of going through all the hassle of trying to get a job offer then sorting your visa out if people are saying "yeah it's sort of ok here in Canada"
We were getting so excited about starting a nice life in Canada but now were just thinking why do so many English move there if it's only kind of ok?
I'm not having ago it's just frustrating when your so looking forward to starting a new life in such a beautiful country and you see something like this thread and it can completely put you off the idea.
Please someone prove me wrong.
This link should show you what there is in Alberta.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThFCg0tBDck
If link doesn't work - type in "remember to breathe Alberta" into google.
#49
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Re: Good Points, Bad Points
It's the daily mail. Where my mum and sister live the litter, rabble, and unemployment is not really different to vancouver.
So unfortunately your list is flawed if your Canada cons are based on reality, and your UK cons are based on media perception
So with that in mind, move to Vancouver. It's ace here. I took the dog out for a shit this morning and we ran back inside pretty shaprish after we bumped into a black bear. Last night it was deer. Just bring a nice pair of wellies.
So unfortunately your list is flawed if your Canada cons are based on reality, and your UK cons are based on media perception
So with that in mind, move to Vancouver. It's ace here. I took the dog out for a shit this morning and we ran back inside pretty shaprish after we bumped into a black bear. Last night it was deer. Just bring a nice pair of wellies.
#50
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Re: Good Points, Bad Points
vancouver
pros
on day to day basis, life is easier and much more pleasant.
wages more than twice as high...better working conditions
nice climate, beautiful surroundings
decent, safe city, with lots to do, less drunken knobs, less dog crap, litter and vandalisim
progressive ever changing city...
lots of outdoor pursuits year round, easily accessible from the city
my mrs
great range of restaurants and street food
pleasant locals
much less street level anti social behaviour (police better equiped to deal with such issues)
not pre-judged, told what you cant do/be
can retire in 8 years!
no football everywhere you turn....hate the game...
Cons
has become a firmly upper middle class place to make a go of it
rising cost of living (although tempered by higher wages)
family not here
housing too spendy and not as well built
traffic getting worse
winter rains
pubs are mostly crap
no chinese take aways (i miss that curry sauce on me chips)
harder to get away for short trips
access to europe
transit not as good
pros
on day to day basis, life is easier and much more pleasant.
wages more than twice as high...better working conditions
nice climate, beautiful surroundings
decent, safe city, with lots to do, less drunken knobs, less dog crap, litter and vandalisim
progressive ever changing city...
lots of outdoor pursuits year round, easily accessible from the city
my mrs
great range of restaurants and street food
pleasant locals
much less street level anti social behaviour (police better equiped to deal with such issues)
not pre-judged, told what you cant do/be
can retire in 8 years!
no football everywhere you turn....hate the game...
Cons
has become a firmly upper middle class place to make a go of it
rising cost of living (although tempered by higher wages)
family not here
housing too spendy and not as well built
traffic getting worse
winter rains
pubs are mostly crap
no chinese take aways (i miss that curry sauce on me chips)
harder to get away for short trips
access to europe
transit not as good
Last edited by Boy d; Aug 23rd 2012 at 2:41 pm.
#51
Re: Good Points, Bad Points
Surely Didsbury has some cleaner areas and less rabble than areas of East Vancouver or DTES or areas of Surrey or areas of Maple Ridge or...
Either way, the vast majority of areas in the UK aren't full of litter, rabble, or unemployment in the same way as Canada isn't.
#52
Re: Good Points, Bad Points
Bottom line. Canada in general is analogous to Michael McIntyre. Pleasant enough on the surface, not funny, boring as hell and eventually bloody irritating.
#57
Re: Good Points, Bad Points
Pros
Very friendly locals
Easy access to the ocean
Fantastic summer weather (feels like a summer should do)
Fantastic winter weather (Feels like a winter should do)
Fantastic Fall (Autumn) Picture postcard stuff
Very cheap land prices and hence very cheap property prices
Easy access to UK if you want to visit (Less than a 6 hour flight)
Courteous Drivers everywhere (unless visitors arrive from Ontario !)
Free school buses from the end of your drive to the kids school
Fantastic clear night skies
Cheap gas (petrol)
Easy access to New England and a couple of decent US cities (NYC and Boston)
Staying in the house is seen as weird...outside life is the norm
Cons
Insurance is expensive across the board
Hiring/Recruiting techniques Slow, Old Fashioned and mostly garbage.
Price of Heating Oil (if you have an oil furnace)
Cell Phone plans are expensive
A lot of foods are more expensive, few cheaper.
Flight prices to virtually anywhere are expensive
Online purchasing is not at an advanced stage yet
TV, Internet and Phone packages are more expensive
+virtually nothing of any quality on TV (which helps my last Pro)
Humidity levels in depth of summer can be high
Very friendly locals
Easy access to the ocean
Fantastic summer weather (feels like a summer should do)
Fantastic winter weather (Feels like a winter should do)
Fantastic Fall (Autumn) Picture postcard stuff
Very cheap land prices and hence very cheap property prices
Easy access to UK if you want to visit (Less than a 6 hour flight)
Courteous Drivers everywhere (unless visitors arrive from Ontario !)
Free school buses from the end of your drive to the kids school
Fantastic clear night skies
Cheap gas (petrol)
Easy access to New England and a couple of decent US cities (NYC and Boston)
Staying in the house is seen as weird...outside life is the norm
Cons
Insurance is expensive across the board
Hiring/Recruiting techniques Slow, Old Fashioned and mostly garbage.
Price of Heating Oil (if you have an oil furnace)
Cell Phone plans are expensive
A lot of foods are more expensive, few cheaper.
Flight prices to virtually anywhere are expensive
Online purchasing is not at an advanced stage yet
TV, Internet and Phone packages are more expensive
+virtually nothing of any quality on TV (which helps my last Pro)
Humidity levels in depth of summer can be high
Last edited by jimmydean; Aug 23rd 2012 at 9:02 pm.
#59
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: Good Points, Bad Points
I agree.
Oink, enough with the tired cliché's. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Oink, enough with the tired cliché's. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
#60
Re: Good Points, Bad Points
Id be sick as a parrot if I had to give up my tired old cliches.
YMMV. YNWA... er.... AFLA?
YMMV. YNWA... er.... AFLA?
Last edited by iaink; Aug 23rd 2012 at 9:03 pm.