GB Pound Vs CAD Dollar - HOW LOW CAN IT GO?
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Re: GB Pound Vs CAD Dollar - HOW LOW CAN IT GO?
In your final return you can usually claim unused capital losses, but as you are dead by then you probably won't care.
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Re: GB Pound Vs CAD Dollar - HOW LOW CAN IT GO?
With countries running massive deficits current debt levels are only relevant as a starting point for where debt will be in 3-5 years. What's your take on UK vs Canada deficits? I think Canada is a clear winner there.
One can also debate about what is included in the 64% and 57%. Provincial debt? Unfunded pension liabilities? PFI?
Small difference in unemployment and central bank rates? In the current, very unstable economic environment who cares? I'm pretty sure Canada has always had a higher unemployment rate than the UK by some measures.
Of course speculation plays a role FX. And speculation is normally rooted in some reality.
One can also debate about what is included in the 64% and 57%. Provincial debt? Unfunded pension liabilities? PFI?
Small difference in unemployment and central bank rates? In the current, very unstable economic environment who cares? I'm pretty sure Canada has always had a higher unemployment rate than the UK by some measures.
Of course speculation plays a role FX. And speculation is normally rooted in some reality.
To me national debt is national debt- it is the money that a country owes. I am sure the two countries owe money on different things but they still owe money of which Canada owes more.
The point with unemployment is that it continues to rise in both countries at around the same rate. Job security is not any greater than in Canada and I doubt business confidence is either.
Speculation plays a big part in all markets and is reknowned for distorting reality largely due to human beings and "herd behaviour".
I appreciate Canada has oil but I have several freinds who work for BP and they have told me that the Calgary Oil Sands has not been the golden goose they thought it was and the extraction of the oil has been far more difficult and expensive than they ever anticipated.
Apologies for not multi-quoting I have just come in from Wembley watching England- Belarus. I am very tired and I have a long day tomorrow.
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Complete section 5 of schedule 3 and file this with your tax return.
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Do we think it will go back up any time soon? Rough guess of course.
I am skeptical we'll see 1:2 again for a very long time if at all.
I am skeptical we'll see 1:2 again for a very long time if at all.
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I am not quite understanding the deficit question. I do believe that in Canada they have started to take measures to cut spending already where as in the UK this is clearly not going to happen till after the next election (mid next year I suspect).
To me national debt is national debt- it is the money that a country owes. I am sure the two countries owe money on different things but they still owe money of which Canada owes more.
To me national debt is national debt- it is the money that a country owes. I am sure the two countries owe money on different things but they still owe money of which Canada owes more.
Canada's deficit this year should be around $60 billion. This is a much smaller percentage of GDP. Canada ran surpluses during the boom years and I think tackling the deficit is seen as a political priority.
The result? National debt is growing at a much faster rate in the UK than in Canada. If the UK's debt % does not already exceed Canada's it will soon and the gap will widen dramatically in the coming years in Canada's favour.
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wow, $1.63 I haven't checked the rate for ages. I feel sorry for the poor bastards moving over here this month...hopefully it gets better.
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The UK deficit is likely to be in the £175-200 billion range for the current year and could prove very difficult to get under control. The UK had deficits during the boom years and it is yet to be seen if any UK political party has the strength to bring the fiscal situation under control.
Canada's deficit this year should be around $60 billion. This is a much smaller percentage of GDP. Canada ran surpluses during the boom years and I think tackling the deficit is seen as a political priority.
The result? National debt is growing at a much faster rate in the UK than in Canada. If the UK's debt % does not already exceed Canada's it will soon and the gap will widen dramatically in the coming years in Canada's favour.
Canada's deficit this year should be around $60 billion. This is a much smaller percentage of GDP. Canada ran surpluses during the boom years and I think tackling the deficit is seen as a political priority.
The result? National debt is growing at a much faster rate in the UK than in Canada. If the UK's debt % does not already exceed Canada's it will soon and the gap will widen dramatically in the coming years in Canada's favour.
You have to remember that in the UK you are likely to get a majority government who will have 5 years to execute their plan. In Canada there seems to be an election every two years- never a majority and policey implementation problems.
Also even if Canada does cut their deficit marginally quicker does this explain a 30% shift in exchange rate in the last 12 months???? As mentioned both countries are in recession, have low interest rates and rising unemployment.
It has been around 2 dollars for every pound for the last 30 years according to recent stats published by another wise poster on here. It is inevitable that soon Canadian exporters will start to struggle forcing the Canadian government to act on the strength of their currency.
The other big factor swings back to the fact that anyone holding any currency other than the pound would be wise now to consider buying pounds while things are low and everyone else appears to be selling. In the next 2 or 3 months everyone else will cotton on to the undervaluation of the pound and start buying it shifing it upward again (Herd Behaviour).
I stand by my belief that this time next year we will see the pound back towards the 1.85-1.95 level.
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Currently at 1.676 - up 4c or 2.5% today!
I guess 'volatile' is the word.
I guess 'volatile' is the word.
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If they can, I think it is more of a case of the US dollar falling than the Canadian dollar rising. Most economists are saying get used to the high C$ dollar.
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We will see.
The other big factor swings back to the fact that anyone holding any currency other than the pound would be wise now to consider buying pounds while things are low and everyone else appears to be selling. In the next 2 or 3 months everyone else will cotton on to the undervaluation of the pound and start buying it shifing it upward again (Herd Behaviour).
I stand by my belief that this time next year we will see the pound back towards the 1.85-1.95 level.
The other big factor swings back to the fact that anyone holding any currency other than the pound would be wise now to consider buying pounds while things are low and everyone else appears to be selling. In the next 2 or 3 months everyone else will cotton on to the undervaluation of the pound and start buying it shifing it upward again (Herd Behaviour).
I stand by my belief that this time next year we will see the pound back towards the 1.85-1.95 level.
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We will see.
You have to remember that in the UK you are likely to get a majority government who will have 5 years to execute their plan. In Canada there seems to be an election every two years- never a majority and policey implementation problems.
Also even if Canada does cut their deficit marginally quicker does this explain a 30% shift in exchange rate in the last 12 months???? As mentioned both countries are in recession, have low interest rates and rising unemployment.
It has been around 2 dollars for every pound for the last 30 years according to recent stats published by another wise poster on here. It is inevitable that soon Canadian exporters will start to struggle forcing the Canadian government to act on the strength of their currency.
The other big factor swings back to the fact that anyone holding any currency other than the pound would be wise now to consider buying pounds while things are low and everyone else appears to be selling. In the next 2 or 3 months everyone else will cotton on to the undervaluation of the pound and start buying it shifing it upward again (Herd Behaviour).
I stand by my belief that this time next year we will see the pound back towards the 1.85-1.95 level.
You have to remember that in the UK you are likely to get a majority government who will have 5 years to execute their plan. In Canada there seems to be an election every two years- never a majority and policey implementation problems.
Also even if Canada does cut their deficit marginally quicker does this explain a 30% shift in exchange rate in the last 12 months???? As mentioned both countries are in recession, have low interest rates and rising unemployment.
It has been around 2 dollars for every pound for the last 30 years according to recent stats published by another wise poster on here. It is inevitable that soon Canadian exporters will start to struggle forcing the Canadian government to act on the strength of their currency.
The other big factor swings back to the fact that anyone holding any currency other than the pound would be wise now to consider buying pounds while things are low and everyone else appears to be selling. In the next 2 or 3 months everyone else will cotton on to the undervaluation of the pound and start buying it shifing it upward again (Herd Behaviour).
I stand by my belief that this time next year we will see the pound back towards the 1.85-1.95 level.
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It has been around 2 dollars for every pound for the last 30 years according to recent stats published by another wise poster on here. It is inevitable that soon Canadian exporters will start to struggle forcing the Canadian government to act on the strength of their currency.
What can the Canadian government do to weaken the dollar? The FX market is so massive it is difficult for anyone to influence it.
Anyhow, enough boring economics stuff. I'm off to Florida to enjoy the exchange rate. Packing awaits.