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jimf Feb 11th 2010 6:59 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8333812)
It's directly relevant to me. Child wanders over to Vancouver, presents French language resume at likely places, working the same week. She might otherwise having been looking at me for funding.

Out of curiousity what were the types of jobs for which French was required or preferred in Vancouver?

dbd33 Feb 11th 2010 7:07 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 8333828)
Out of curiousity what were the types of jobs for which French was required or preferred in Vancouver?

Waitress at French restaurant (though probably the accent without the language would do), receptionist at French cultural centre, Olympic guide, several other games related positions.

Curiously, her previous position was as a French language radio host. In Alaska.

jimf Feb 11th 2010 7:22 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 8333774)
That's nuts, but doesn't seem to have stopped them leaving.

re: separation, one of my issues is how quebec, that great millstone, has distorted education policy in provinces like mine where french really isn't that useful except for jobs with the feds. You can't argue that french is that relevant in bc. If we weren't shackled to quebec maybe a few people might need it for business, but that's it. It's ridculous that they require bilingualism for government jobs in this province. For what? The microscopic francophone community?

Why would the attention seeker leave the party especially when someone else is buying the drinks?

dbd33 Feb 11th 2010 7:26 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 8333877)
Why would the attention seeker leave the party especially when someone else is buying the drinks?

It's hardly our place as immigrants to get involved in domestic racism. If we chose to move to a country where francophones or Catholics are favoured minority we have the choice to join that minority or not to, but it's not for us to dabble in cradle politics. This is a rare case where I've opted into Canadiana.

Steve_P Feb 11th 2010 7:28 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8333880)
It's hardly our place as immigrants to get involved in domestic racism. If we chose to move to a country where francophones or Catholics are favoured minority we have the choice to join that minority or not to, but it's not for us to dabble in cradle politics.

What an absolute load of rubbish.

dbd33 Feb 11th 2010 7:31 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 8333885)
What an absolute load of rubbish.

Not sure which bit is rubbish.

Canada isn't our country, we shouldn't mess with the way it's run.

Canada has discrimination in favour of francophones and Ontario has discrimination in favour of Catholics. Since those are groups one can choose to join I think the immigrant should consider joining them; not ask that the country change the rules to suit the immigrant.

Steve_P Feb 11th 2010 7:36 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8333893)
Not sure which bit is rubbish.

Canada isn't our country, we shouldn't mess with the way it's run.

Why do you feel this way?

It's my adopted country and I have every right to "mess with the way it's run".

iaink Feb 11th 2010 7:36 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8333893)
Not sure which bit is rubbish.

Canada isn't our country, we shouldn't mess with the way it's run.
.

I think statistically speaking the immigrants and their kids far outnumber the cradle canadians by now, so technically it is our country...

jimf Feb 11th 2010 8:19 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8333893)
Not sure which bit is rubbish.

Canada isn't our country, we shouldn't mess with the way it's run.

Canada has discrimination in favour of francophones and Ontario has discrimination in favour of Catholics. Since those are groups one can choose to join I think the immigrant should consider joining them; not ask that the country change the rules to suit the immigrant.

So you've never expressed a view on mr harper or the oil sands for example?

jimf Feb 11th 2010 8:23 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 8333877)
Why would the attention seeker leave the party especially when someone else is buying the drinks?

They keep on saying "its time to go I'm just not appreciated here", get their coat on, open the door but it's a bit dark and scary out there..........

dbd33 Feb 11th 2010 9:54 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 8333902)
Why do you feel this way?

Why? I can't answer that. It just seems inappropriate to mess with the internal affairs of another nation, especially over something like that nation's choice of language, it's hardly a glaring human rights violation. In the same way, I think it's fair comment to attack the US over its policy of invading other nations, less so to fret over the semi-official status of Spanish as a national language.

dbd33 Feb 11th 2010 9:58 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 8333985)
So you've never expressed a view on mr harper or the oil sands for example?

Harper's a religious nutcase and a homophobe, I don't care for him. However he's not a defining feature of Canada, the use of the French language is.

Oil sands, environmentally and probably economically unsound but not something I can recall getting strident about. No more a defining feature of Canada than the tar ponds in Nova Scotia.

Steve_P Feb 11th 2010 10:08 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8334181)
Why? I can't answer that. It just seems inappropriate to mess with the internal affairs of another nation, especially over something like that nation's choice of language, it's hardly a glaring human rights violation. In the same way, I think it's fair comment to attack the US over its policy of invading other nations, less so to fret over the semi-official status of Spanish as a national language.

I'm curious to know why after all these years you still consider Canada "another nation"?

Do you feel no attachment to the place?

Is it merely a means to an end?

dbd33 Feb 11th 2010 10:28 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 8334220)
I'm curious to know why after all these years you still consider Canada "another nation"?

Do you feel no attachment to the place?

Is it merely a means to an end?

I don't feel any attachment, no. I've a business here but it doesn't do any trading to speak of within Canada. I don't have a lot of dealings with cradle Canadians, the immigrant populace I know is the same mix as one would find in any large city. Overall Canada hasn't really made much of an impression on me one way or the other. The education system has been good though, it was very handy to have support for bilingualism.

jimf Feb 11th 2010 10:51 am

Re: French Emersion
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8333893)
Not sure which bit is rubbish.

Canada isn't our country, we shouldn't mess with the way it's run.

Canada has discrimination in favour of francophones and Ontario has discrimination in favour of Catholics. Since those are groups one can choose to join I think the immigrant should consider joining them; not ask that the country change the rules to suit the immigrant.

No one is suggesting changing any rules to suit any immigrant. All I have done is make an observation as to why the present situation exists.


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