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Wearsider May 26th 2006 1:16 pm

"The French"
 
Are French Canadians as "Friendly" as THE French?

If you have ever queued up in a lift queue in a French ski resort you will know what I mean? :confused:

dbd33 May 26th 2006 2:55 pm

Re: "The French"
 

Originally Posted by Wearsider
Are French Canadians as "Friendly" as THE French?

If you have ever queued up in a lift queue in a French ski resort you will know what I mean? :confused:


I don't really know what you mean but trust you will be grateful to the French Canadians who put in place the policies that made you eligible to immigrate.

Rich_007 May 26th 2006 3:03 pm

Re: "The French"
 

Originally Posted by Wearsider
Are French Canadians as "Friendly" as THE French?

If you have ever queued up in a lift queue in a French ski resort you will know what I mean? :confused:

I met one F-C dude, he was fine, had good banter, the 'deep' drawn out F-C accent can take a bit of getting used to, and maybe it is that which causes the communiction problem, puts you on the back foot and may give the wrong impression, both ways.

Course, this is in BC outside of QC so maybe a more neutral environment helps foster happier discourse between the Anglos and the Francophones.

The dude was perfectly pleasant but spat and smoked a lot. Not spitting into garbage bins though. Perhaps he needed coaching from dbd33 in the finer arts of hacking and harking into assorted depositories ?

Rich.

Wearsider May 26th 2006 3:05 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33
I don't really know what you mean but trust you will be grateful to the French Canadians who put in place the policies that made you eligible to immigrate.


In the same way the French show their gratitude to the British for their liberation during the second world war? :confused:

dbd33 May 26th 2006 3:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Wearsider
In the same way the French show their gratitude to the British for their liberation during the second world war? :confused:

I don't think we really need your racism in Canada. Please stay where you are.

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 3:08 pm

Re: "The French"
 

Originally Posted by Wearsider
Are French Canadians as "Friendly" as THE French?

If you have ever queued up in a lift queue in a French ski resort you will know what I mean? :confused:

I hear a few "Onion Seller's" around the shops....But I think you'll find them a different breed to the yellow livered Alp inhabitants.

dbd33 May 26th 2006 3:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Rich_007
The dude was perfectly pleasant but spat and smoked a lot. Not spitting into garbage bins though. Perhaps he needed coaching from dbd33 in the finer arts of hacking and harking into assorted depositories ?

I'm certainly willing to help with the etiquette and, accordingly, I'd advise him to aim at Wearsider.

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 3:14 pm

Re: "The French"
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
I don't think we really need your racism in Canada. Please stay where you are.

Racism...and having a pop at the French, are completely different ...Any self respecting British Person, has even before the battle of waterloo, had a parting comment to make about the Froggies.....and some other european neighbours.

dbd33 May 26th 2006 3:16 pm

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Originally Posted by frankieforehead
Racism...and having a pop at the French, are completely different ...

How?

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 3:19 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33
How?

"How".....did'nt know you were a french indian...How

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 3:22 pm

Re: "The French"
 

Originally Posted by frankieforehead
"How".....did'nt know you were a french indian...How

oops..I meant "Native"

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 3:23 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33
How?

Fishing...are we?????

Novocastrian May 26th 2006 3:29 pm

Re: "The French"
 

Originally Posted by frankieforehead
Racism...and having a pop at the French, are completely different ...Any self respecting British Person, has even before the battle of waterloo, had a parting comment to make about the Froggies.....and some other european neighbours.

dbd, je crois que Monsieur Mackem (Wearsider) avait eu un peut trop buvez ce soir. Aussi, Monsieur Frankieforehead a plus en avance qu'iil a dans sa tete.

How you doing? Shouldn't you be in bed by now?

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 3:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
dbd, je crois que Monsieur Mackem (Wearsider) avait eu un peut trop buvez ce soir. Aussi, Monsieur Frankieforehead a plus en avance qu'iil a dans sa tete.

How you doing? Shouldn't you be in bed by now?

I wish....I've had a hard week, and My OH is watching a film, and won't oblige......yet :D

Alberta_Rose May 26th 2006 3:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
dbd, je crois que Monsieur Mackem (Wearsider) avait eu un peut trop buvez ce soir. Aussi, Monsieur Frankieforehead a plus en avance qu'iil a dans sa tete.

How you doing? Shouldn't you be in bed by now?

Novocastrian, quite the liguist! :D

I agree FWIW :rolleyes: ..... and with your German post too.

There should be rules about posting under the influence .... or with raging toothache (my dentist is a Basket!!! :mad: )

Novocastrian May 26th 2006 3:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Morwenna
Novocastrian, quite the liguist! :D

I agree FWIW :rolleyes: ..... and with your German post too.

There should be rules about posting under the influence .... or with raging toothache (my dentist is a Basket!!! :mad: )

Thanks. But I can only speak in tongues when I'm under the influence too. ;)

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 3:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Morwenna

There should be rules about posting under the influence .... or with raging toothache (my dentist is a Basket!!! :mad: )

Nah...Thats where all the fun comes from

Novocastrian May 26th 2006 3:45 pm

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Originally Posted by frankieforehead
Nah...Thats where all the fun comes from

Nice avatar Frankie. But what did you win? (or is that ad only running in Ontario?)

Alberta_Rose May 26th 2006 3:48 pm

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So does that come under the heading of Canadian lifestyle? .... don't think it's culture :rolleyes:

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 3:51 pm

Re: "The French"
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian
But what did you win? (or is that ad only running in Ontario?)

Humour me....I'm a bit slow

Novocastrian May 26th 2006 4:04 pm

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Originally Posted by frankieforehead
Humour me....I'm a bit slow

Das wueste ich schon.

Je sais ca deja.

Slow isn't all bad.

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 4:08 pm

Re: "The French"
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Das wueste ich schon.

Je sais ca deja.

Slow isn't all bad.

Flippin eck mate...fluent in both sausage and onion...the most i can manage is ...Ich habe ein grosse pimmel :D

Novocastrian May 26th 2006 4:14 pm

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Originally Posted by frankieforehead
Flippin eck mate...fluent in both sausage and onion...the most i can manage is ...Ich habe ein grosse pimmel :D

OK mate, you got me there. What's a pimmel?

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 4:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
OK mate, you got me there. What's a pimmel?

C'mon....a large Kokanee :eek:

Novocastrian May 26th 2006 4:23 pm

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Originally Posted by frankieforehead
C'mon....a large Kokanee :eek:

Dear God. G'night Frankie. Sleep well. Very well. :beer:

frankieforehead May 26th 2006 4:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Dear God. G'night Frankie. Sleep well. Very well. :beer:

night :p

Butch Cassidy May 26th 2006 5:59 pm

Re: "The French"
 

Originally Posted by Wearsider
In the same way the French show their gratitude to the British for their liberation during the second world war? :confused:

I've heard the French showed immense gratitude to the Yanks (rather like are fair maidens in the British Isles did)

hot wasabi peas May 26th 2006 7:25 pm

Re: "The French"
 

Originally Posted by Wearsider
Are French Canadians as "Friendly" as THE French?

If you have ever queued up in a lift queue in a French ski resort you will know what I mean? :confused:

I don't think I've ever really had a negative experience with a French Canadian... even in Montreal!

1066 May 26th 2006 7:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Morwenna
.. There should be rules about posting under the influence ....


Blimey, that's a bit harsh .. 99% of my posts would be deleted at that rate.

Oh! I see what you mean, now ... :D

Souvenir May 27th 2006 2:31 am

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I can think of very few similarities between French Canadians and the European French, except perhaps perhaps physical attributes, bits of the language and some culture.

I lived in France for two years in the early 80s and met plenty of deeply rude, unpleasant, racist and violent people. I was once beaten up by three blokes just because I was English.

I've been living in Quebec for almost two years and was around French Canadians for eight years before that. I'm trying hard to think of an incidence of "French" behaviour and I'm struggling to come up with one. In theory, as an Anglo-Canadian and, worse still, a Brit, I should be getting the $hit kicked out of me on a hourly basis.

Rich_007 May 27th 2006 5:07 am

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In a chilled out vibe, I'd recommend any Brits aim to throw away their 'psycho baggage' when/before they get here - life's different, bin your preconceived and long-formed deeply embedded ideas of race culture nationality identity and attributes, all is everything, nothing as it seems.

It'll make for a happier once existence here :D and might help you contribute to a happer country free(er) of prejudices and bitterness.

Rich.

steve of 5-0 May 27th 2006 11:23 pm

Re: "The French"
 
France is a beautiful country - a shame, that the French live there!

I stand clearly on the side of the US in this one.

They forget that twice the Yanks bled so that they would never have to speak German.

There are TWO countries who produce armoured vehicles with 5 reverse gears and one forward - Italy being the other!!!

As for the persons emerging out of Quebec in the summer months, we love `em!!!

For they speed along Highway 1 at over 120 k, so we drop in behind them, when a "Cruiser" pulls out between us and gives chase - we ease off the gas - as we go by the pulled over "Frenchie", I give them the old favourite - The English Bowman`s salutation - made popular by Churchill in the last war that the French ran from!!!!!!!!!!!!! :beer:

MrGreen May 27th 2006 11:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Rich_007
In a chilled out vibe, I'd recommend any Brits aim to throw away their 'psycho baggage' when/before they get here - life's different, bin your preconceived and long-formed deeply embedded ideas of race culture nationality identity and attributes, all is everything, nothing as it seems.

It'll make for a happier once existence here :D and might help you contribute to a happer country free(er) of prejudices and bitterness.

Rich.

My sentiments exactly! I really am deeply ashamed to be English sometimes when i read the xenophobic and stereotypical bullshit some people constantly come out with. I'm really looking forward to meeting new people from different backgrounds and getting away from morons.

flashman May 28th 2006 3:05 am

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Originally Posted by steve of 5-0
They forget that twice the Yanks bled so that they would never have to speak German.


The "Yanks" always forget that if it wasn't for the French help in the War of Independence, America would still be part of the British Empire.

Madmac May 28th 2006 3:58 am

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Originally Posted by flashman
The "Yanks" always forget that if it wasn't for the French help in the War of Independence, America would still be part of the British Empire.

Yes, but they gave the French MacDonalds, Disnaeland Paris and Lance Armstrong winning their 'Bore de France' in return. Which is more than an adequate payment? ;)

N'est pas? :rolleyes:

jandro May 28th 2006 11:56 am

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Originally Posted by Wearsider
Are French Canadians as "Friendly" as THE French?

If you have ever queued up in a lift queue in a French ski resort you will know what I mean? :confused:

When I lived in Montréal as a student I encountered a few rude people. I was refused service in English in a federal (i.e. bilingual) job centre, ignored in shops, glared at in a restaurant for speaking English too loudly, etc. Store clerks would speak English to me automatically before I could speak French- somehow they knew I spoke English. I was called 'tête carré' (square head) a few times. I left there as soon as I graduated as there were few job opportunities for non-Quebec anglos. I also lived in France for a bit and in comparison I found the Quebecois to be more insistent on speaking French.

dbd33 May 28th 2006 1:05 pm

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Originally Posted by jandro
When I lived in Montréal as a student I encountered a few rude people. I was refused service in English in a federal (i.e. bilingual) job centre, ignored in shops, glared at in a restaurant for speaking English too loudly, etc. Store clerks would speak English to me automatically before I could speak French- somehow they knew I spoke English. I was called 'tête carré' (square head) a few times. I left there as soon as I graduated as there were few job opportunities for non-Quebec anglos. I also lived in France for a bit and in comparison I found the Quebecois to be more insistent on speaking French.


How come, if you lived in Montreal, and in France, people can tell you're an anglo? Can't you do French yet?

jandro May 29th 2006 11:19 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33
How come, if you lived in Montreal, and in France, people can tell you're an anglo? Can't you do French yet?

In Québec some people could tell I was an anglo and spoke English to me regardless if I spoke French - not in France.

Wearsider May 29th 2006 11:57 am

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Originally Posted by greenbwoy
My sentiments exactly! I really am deeply ashamed to be English sometimes when i read the xenophobic and stereotypical bullshit some people constantly come out with. I'm really looking forward to meeting new people from different backgrounds and getting away from morons.

Sorry mate, I stand guilty of being celeryphobic (see earlier post) but my only other crime has been stating facts!

How many times have you visited France? I have been 12 times and love the place. I have spent approximately 3/4 of a year there altogether and have contributed a considerable amount to the French economy during that time.

Xenophobic - "The term is typically used to describe fear or dislike of foreigners or in general of people different from one's self"

I certainly do not fear France or anything French, and I have never stated that I dislike the French. I merely posed the question "Are French Canadians as warm and welcoming to the British as their European counterparts?"

Therefore, if your experience of French Europeans is warm and welcoming and on par with that of Canadian French then the answer would surely be yes.

My personal experience whilst living in France is that the French people that I personally have met have not been warm and welcoming, but rather rude, stand-offish and quite offensive.

Despite this I do not fear or dislike the French, therefore I am not Xenophobic !


I Fuc**ng hate Celery though! :D

Calgal May 29th 2006 12:35 pm

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Originally Posted by flashman
The "Yanks" always forget that if it wasn't for the French help in the War of Independence, America would still be part of the British Empire.


Damn the French ;) JUST JOKING!!

WARNING - DO NOT READ THE FOLLOWING unless your sense of humour is intact!

NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE To the citizens of the United States of America, In the light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.

Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchial duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The rt. hon. Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.

To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how incorrectly you have been pronouncing it. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed".

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf.

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard.

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen",
but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2005.

7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 98.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. ("Merde" is French for "sh*t".)

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean.

10. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

Thank you for your cooperation.


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