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Maple Leaf May 22nd 2008 2:06 am

Fraud squads chase down marriages of convenience
 
interesting reading...hmmm...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...Story/National

i heard about this on the radio yesterday. it was interesting to listen to, as they said it doesn't happen everyday..but it does happen...and the focus was more so on the Canadian Cit..who is doing the sponsoring for the new spouse....getting caught out in a fraudalent marraige by their new partner to gain entry to Canada.

and then in some cases having to pay out money as per the agreed spouse sponsorship if they become a user of the welfare system.

how devastating the whole scenario must be for anyone who does get caught up in this kind of nightmare!

mandymoochops May 22nd 2008 6:55 am

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I just can't imagine how cold hearted someone would have to be to pretend to love someone just to get into a country - and they have to carry this pretence on for months even years.

I couldn't pretend to save my life - if I love someone they know it, in the same vein that if I don't I can't pretend I do - heart on a sleeve typr person!

Mr MMC knows if there is something wrong in a flash!!!

Biiiiink May 22nd 2008 6:58 am

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Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 6381433)
I just can't imagine how cold hearted someone would have to be to pretend to love someone just to get into a country - and they have to carry this pretence on for months even years.

I'd do anything I could to get myself out of poverty and into a country like Canada with access to healthcare, schooling for my kids, etc.

Wannabe May 22nd 2008 7:05 am

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Originally Posted by Biiiiink (Post 6381445)
I'd do anything I could to get myself out of poverty and into a country like Canada with access to healthcare, schooling for my kids, etc.

Hmmmm... *ponders*
You don't happen to be married to a Canadian, do you? *suspicious*

;)

edsask May 22nd 2008 7:13 am

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I would imagine that although government won't say where these teams are operating, it is extremely unlikely that they're in the UK. Given that living standards are broadly the same in both countries, there's simply less incentive to. Not saying it never happens, but I would think the problem is microscopic in comparison to some other places.

As to evidence, it's true: many couples (including us) haven't kept every single piece of documentation relating to our relationship: receipts for tickets got shredded, as did phone bills (we were never big on using traditional phones anyway), because we didn't think to keep them. I'd be more suspicious of those people who have got *every single* piece of information, with no gaps or situations needing explanation. Real life doesn't fit itself onto application forms. It's a little ragged or odd-shaped around the edges.

edsask May 22nd 2008 7:14 am

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Originally Posted by Biiiiink (Post 6381445)
I'd do anything I could to get myself out of poverty and into a country like Canada with access to healthcare, schooling for my kids, etc.

Gosh, you'd *never* get such things as free healthcare and decent schooling back in the UK, would you? Heavens! :p

edsask May 22nd 2008 7:15 am

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Originally Posted by Wannabe (Post 6381466)
Hmmmm... *ponders*
You don't happen to be married to a Canadian, do you? *suspicious*

;)

*plays the Dragnet theme tune*

mandymoochops May 22nd 2008 7:20 am

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Originally Posted by Biiiiink (Post 6381445)
I'd do anything I could to get myself out of poverty and into a country like Canada with access to healthcare, schooling for my kids, etc.

mmmmmm I suppose that a lot of these cases as were pointed out come from poorer countries where the person has internet access and all of a sudden develops an undying love for someone they have never met who is nonetheless 30 years their senior!!!!

Steve_P May 22nd 2008 7:29 am

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Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 6381521)
mmmmmm I suppose that a lot of these cases as were pointed out come from poorer countries where the person has internet access and all of a sudden develops an undying love for someone they have never met who is nonetheless 30 years their senior!!!!

Are you saying that the 18 year old beauty from Thailand really doesn't love me and is just using me to get in to Canada? :confused:

I'm devastated. :p

mandymoochops May 22nd 2008 7:31 am

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Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 6381544)
Are you saying that the 18 year old beauty from Thailand really doesn't love me and is just using me to get in to Canada? :confused:

I'm devastated. :p

No Steve I'm just saying watch your heart and your wallet :p

Biiiiink May 22nd 2008 7:32 am

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Originally Posted by Wannabe (Post 6381466)
Hmmmm... *ponders*
You don't happen to be married to a Canadian, do you? *suspicious*

;)

Hah, no! I'm the Canadian, and we're not married ;)

It's an interesting article, I appreciate the concerns, and that it's awful for those who've been duped, but I have to say that I'd not be averse to a little lying to secure healthcare, education and so on for me and my family. And I don't mean escape the UK edsask :lol:

Steve_P May 22nd 2008 7:34 am

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Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 6381552)
No Steve I'm just saying watch your heart and your wallet :p

Well the heart is sort of operating at reduced capacity at the moment and as for the wallet well that's empty most of the time. :p:blink:

edsask May 22nd 2008 7:35 am

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From CIC:
Citizenship and Immigration Canada’s officers are specially trained to recognize genuine immigration applications, and they know how to detect marriages of convenience. They use a variety of techniques to uncover marriage fraud, including document checks, site visits and interviews with sponsors and applicants.
Oh, really? They can determine real love surer than Cupid's bow, can they? You'll be telling us next CIC never loses track of immigrants with no legal status in Canada. ;)

I'm actually amazed that people actually need to ask the question posed at the top of the page.

mandymoochops May 22nd 2008 7:37 am

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Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 6381568)
Well the heart is sort of operating at reduced capacity at the moment and as for the wallet well that's empty most of the time. :p:blink:


You should be OK then!!!!!!

Here's one from Little Britain :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpWw8...eature=related

Be careful who you talk to Steve you never know :rofl:

Wannabe May 22nd 2008 8:01 am

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Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 6381586)

Too funny! :D


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