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dbd Oct 3rd 2005 5:20 am

Re: Feelings oin the Web
 

Originally Posted by skigordi
I doubt you will see many Scots lining up behind it even if it is

That does seem rather a problem. I wonder why they picked such a limiting symbol and, more broadly, why far right parties are so much in a world of their own, the Canadian equivalent of the BNP actually named itself the Canadian Reform Alliance Party !

Posidrive Oct 3rd 2005 5:23 am

Re: Feelings oin the Web
 

Originally Posted by dbd
I am personally offended by Christmas, the festival of consumerism.

Maybe so, but it is also a time of the year when you can see you kid's eye light up with happiness.

Posidrive Oct 3rd 2005 5:26 am

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And another thing that p!@#es me of is minority groups who expect extra time off work for their own religious or whatever beliefs but who are also unwilling to give up the time off for Christmas or whatever that offends them.

They always expect more because of who they are, rather than just something different.

Judy in Calgary Oct 3rd 2005 5:37 am

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I very much doubt that a majority of Canadians consider themselves to be Christians.
Interestingly enough, in the 2001 census, 72% of Canadians identified themselves as Christian, and 16% identified themselves as having no religion. The results of my Google search surprised me. I would have expected a larger proportion of Canada's population to be non-religious.

I find the author's defence of the flag somewhat amusing. I wonder to which flag he/she was referring. When we got to Canada in 1977, our elderly and very distant cousin by marriage complained bitterly about the 1965 adoption of the maple-leaf flag in place of the Red Ensign. He had fought under the Red Ensign in the First and Second World Wars, and the maple-leaf flag was an insult to the sacrifice of his fallen comrades. I liked our cousin, who was a really neat person in many respects, but he never did persuade me to get excited about the flag issue. He went to his death, at the age of 101 in 1996, still complaining about the maple-leaf flag.

The maple-leaf flag and computers. Those were the banes of his life. I'll never forget the time he said to us, "I told you so! Now they have viruses!"

Anyway, going back to the original article with which this thread was started, if customs never changed we'd still be calling each other Mr. Smith and Mrs. Smith when we made love.

dbd Oct 3rd 2005 5:49 am

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Originally Posted by Posidrive
Regardless of that it is still the English flag. Nobody complains when our neighbours a few doors down (back in the UK) fly the American flag. The far right bigots should not be allowed to sully the expressions of the more patriotic amongst us who are pround to be English. Nobody raises an eyebrow about St. Patrick's day celebrations.

Also when we have the football (proper version where you spend most of the time kicking the ball) world cup in the (increasingly unlikely) event that we qualify as England rather than Britain, are they going to stop us flying the flag. Even if it may be at half mast when we loose :(

Also, don't get me wrong by highlighting these English issues. We will integrate into Canadian society but we will always keep our English heritage whilest not trying to impose our previous way of life on Canada. Just how it should be.

I grew up in London, attending football matches (the proper version where you spend most of the time kicking people of other cultures). The flag of St. George never got an airing, it's only now that it has a specific and offensive new meaning that anyone wants to fly it. Saying it's the English flag is like defending the swastika as an ancient good luck symbol, that's true but irrelevant now.

You cannot integrate into Canadian culture, you'll always be hyphenated, that's the point of a multiculture. If you want to integrate go to the US, that's the melting pot.

btw, YIDDO !!!!!!!!

dbd Oct 3rd 2005 5:52 am

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Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
Anyway, going back to the original article with which this thread was started, if customs never changed we'd still be calling each other Mr. Smith and Mrs. Smith when we made love.

Ha! We have so moved on. We shout out our poster names from the GU board (www.guardian.co.uk/talk). If I had seen the future I would have picked something alliterative.

Posidrive Oct 3rd 2005 6:03 am

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Originally Posted by dbd
it's only now that it has a specific and offensive new meaning that anyone wants to fly it. Saying it's the English flag is like defending the swastika as an ancient good luck symbol, that's true but irrelevant now.

Only so in some parts of the Country. In the Bucks countryside you can go to pubs where it will only be displayed when the soccer is on. Similar in other parts of the country, as long as you are not in an area of racial tension.

Looks like we've going to have to wipe out the NF to get our symbol back.

Posidrive Oct 3rd 2005 6:06 am

Re: Feelings oin the Web
 

Originally Posted by dbd
You cannot integrate into Canadian culture.

Depends what you mean by Integrate. I take it to mean that we're NOT going to live in a getto of little England, socilaise only with English friends and whine continuously about what's different. Being English we are bound to whine a little, it's in our genes, but it will not be continuous.




What does YIDDOOO mean?

dbd Oct 3rd 2005 6:07 am

Re: Feelings oin the Web
 

Originally Posted by Posidrive
Only so in some parts of the Country. In the Bucks countryside you can go to pubs where it will only be displayed when the soccer is on. Similar in other parts of the country, as long as you are not in an area of racial tension.

Fair enough.

Posidrive Oct 3rd 2005 6:07 am

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Originally Posted by dbd
ou spend most of the time kicking people of other cultures). The flag of St. George never got an airing

It only ever comes out during internationals

Souvenir Oct 3rd 2005 7:03 am

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Originally Posted by Posidrive
Maybe so, but it is also a time of the year when you can see you kid's eye light up with happiness.

As is any time of year when a kid gets a pressy it wants.

Souvenir Oct 3rd 2005 7:06 am

Re: Feelings oin the Web
 

Originally Posted by Posidrive
What does YIDDOOO mean?

I believe it's a taunt used against Spurs fans that goes back years. The club's board was/maybe still is predominantly Jewish.

dbd Oct 3rd 2005 7:24 am

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Originally Posted by Souvenir
I believe it's a taunt used against Spurs fans that goes back years. The club's board was/maybe still is predominantly Jewish.

Sorry, missed that. Tottenham fans shout it themselves, it's a early example of reclaiming language. "queer" would be a more recently one.

Souvenir Oct 3rd 2005 8:02 am

Re: Feelings oin the Web
 

Originally Posted by dbd
Sorry, missed that. Tottenham fans shout it themselves, it's a early example of reclaiming language. "queer" would be a more recently one.

So, the Spurs fans have adopted as their own a racist taunt that used to be directed at the club? Odd bunch.

The only time I ever came across it was at a Spurs/QPR game in the mid-80s.

MikeUK Oct 3rd 2005 8:47 am

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I’m sure the whole irony of this statement in Canada was not lost on the Mohawks, Ojibwas, Cree etc

IMMIGRANTS,
NOT Canadians
MUST ADAPT.

Etc..etc..etc…

I highly encourage you to
take advantage of one other Great Canadian Freedom.......

THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.

Haven’t they been suggesting that for a few hundred years or so…..


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