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Alan2005 Sep 22nd 2009 3:04 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by greghal (Post 7953186)
Interest rates arent determined by the government, thay are set by the Bank of England which is an 'independant' body, although how independant is difficult to say!!

In normal circumstances the government gives the economic targets (which are economic stability and inflation within a narrow band); The BOE then sets inflation based on those. The problem comes when the government tries to sell too much debt and no-one wants to buy it - interest rates have to be raised to make the gilts attractive to investors (at least that's my understanding).

bsmith Sep 22nd 2009 8:55 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7954142)
In normal circumstances the government gives the economic targets (which are economic stability and inflation within a narrow band); The BOE then sets inflation based on those. The problem comes when the government tries to sell too much debt and no-one wants to buy it - interest rates have to be raised to make the gilts attractive to investors (at least that's my understanding).

...BOE sets interest rates based on the governments inflation targets.

Alan2005 Sep 22nd 2009 8:56 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by bsmith (Post 7955162)
...BOE sets interest rates based on the governments inflation targets.

Yes - that's what I meant. A minor slip:p

greghal Sep 22nd 2009 8:12 pm

Re: Exchange rate
 
The Bo of E is supposed to set interest rates solely to keep inflation at a target of 2% (with a margin of 1% either side) However in the US the Fed are targetted on growth and inflation. It could be argued that the Bank of England had had to deviate from their initial remit due to the Financial crisis

Deva Sep 23rd 2009 2:31 am

Re: Exchange rate
 
A few posters have joked in this thread about heading back to the UK if the exchange rate hits 1.50. I am curious if anyone would seriously consider this.

The current combination of buoyant Canadian house prices, price falls in the UK and the exchange rate is very favourable, especially if you came over with a lump sum pre 2007 when the exchange rate was 2.40+. Anyone tempted?

Alan2005 Sep 23rd 2009 3:06 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by greghal (Post 7956520)
The Bo of E is supposed to set interest rates solely to keep inflation at a target of 2% (with a margin of 1% either side) However in the US the Fed are targetted on growth and inflation. It could be argued that the Bank of England had had to deviate from their initial remit due to the Financial crisis

The bank of englands remit is monetary and financial stability. It's a common misconception that it's there to only target inflation - it's not.

louise033 Sep 23rd 2009 4:25 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by Deva (Post 7957585)
A few posters have joked in this thread about heading back to the UK if the exchange rate hits 1.50. I am curious if anyone would seriously consider this.

The current combination of buoyant Canadian house prices, price falls in the UK and the exchange rate is very favourable, especially if you came over with a lump sum pre 2007 when the exchange rate was 2.40+. Anyone tempted?

Where in Canada is this? Also to answer your question, no we would not come back to England based on the exchange rate.

Deva Sep 23rd 2009 5:43 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by louise033 (Post 7957963)
Where in Canada is this?

Certainly here in Ottawa and, if the news is to be believed, in Vancouver, Montreal, parts of the GTA and elsewhere.

louise033 Sep 23rd 2009 10:01 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by Deva (Post 7958208)
Certainly here in Ottawa and, if the news is to be believed, in Vancouver, Montreal, parts of the GTA and elsewhere.

not exactly what I would call buoyant! Improving maybe but even that depends which news source you listen to.

Deva Sep 23rd 2009 11:46 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by louise033 (Post 7958926)
not exactly what I would call buoyant! Improving maybe but even that depends which news source you listen to.

By buoyant I mean staying afloat which I think is an accurate description of the current market (with localised discrepancies of course), especially when compared to what has happened in the UK and US. Personally, I don't think it will last but while it does anyone thinking of returning to the UK is in a good position.

Southcote Sep 24th 2009 11:35 am

Re: Exchange rate
 
I exchange e-mails with Custom House this week to get their views on the exchange rate over the next 8-12 months. This was their reply:

"It seems likely that the GBP will get slightly worse against CAD before beginning to recover in the early part of next year. I think that the GBP is rapidly approaching undervalued levels, but it will take time to correct itself"

geedee Sep 24th 2009 1:08 pm

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by Southcote (Post 7962779)
I exchange e-mails with Custom House this week to get their views on the exchange rate over the next 8-12 months. This was their reply:

"It seems likely that the GBP will get slightly worse against CAD before beginning to recover in the early part of next year. I think that the GBP is rapidly approaching undervalued levels, but it will take time to correct itself"

It's not undervalued while nulabia are 'in charge'!

Alan2005 Sep 24th 2009 1:32 pm

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by Southcote (Post 7962779)
I exchange e-mails with Custom House this week to get their views on the exchange rate over the next 8-12 months. This was their reply:

"It seems likely that the GBP will get slightly worse against CAD before beginning to recover in the early part of next year. I think that the GBP is rapidly approaching undervalued levels, but it will take time to correct itself"

They are just guessing - if they knew they wouldn't be brokers they'd be taking a position and making the cash themselves. My gut feeling is that where it is now is about right given the relative strength of the two economies. The fun will start if the US does too much competitive devaluation - I wouldn't like to guess what will happen in that case.

bsmith Sep 24th 2009 7:23 pm

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 7963069)
They are just guessing - if they knew they wouldn't be brokers they'd be taking a position and making the cash themselves. My gut feeling is that where it is now is about right given the relative strength of the two economies. The fun will start if the US does too much competitive devaluation - I wouldn't like to guess what will happen in that case.

I appreciate it's crystal-ball gazing to some degree, but what's your gut feeling on where this could take things?

Alan2005 Sep 25th 2009 3:04 am

Re: Exchange rate
 

Originally Posted by bsmith (Post 7963811)
I appreciate it's crystal-ball gazing to some degree, but what's your gut feeling on where this could take things?

The link between USD and CAD will either break due to oil demand or it will drag CAD down with it or it will do something else - I honestly have no idea. If I was clever enough to know this I'd be rich.

I do think that the UK is certainly trying this approach right now - mervin is definitely talking the pound down on occasion (he knows everything he says will affect the market and so considers his words very carefully - or he's an idiot, but I actually don't think that's the case).


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