Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

Hi All,
Looking at registering for one of the above prior to coming over.

Career Summary.
Year Year Technical Apprenticeship (In UK)
HNC Mech Eng, MSC Management (In UK)
15+ Years with major OEM's and EPC's.
Currently employed as Project Engineer for major EPC over a multi discipline team of 8-15 Engineers /Designers subject to project phase.

Any thoughs on which one, pro's, con's etc.

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

PEng is a side effect of provincial registration, rather than a seperate entity, so presumably you are wondering about PEO membership?

Without one years "Canadian Experience" full registration is out of the question Im afraid.

There is however a stepping stone grade available, but Im not sure whether without a Degree rather than the HNC they may require a lot of expensive exams to reach that point?

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

The HNC should be checked for IEng accreditation at http://www.engc.org.uk

If it is accredited by the EC-UK, then the Canadian Council of Technicians and Technologists will give it recognition under the Sydney Accord.
http://www.cctt.ca/

It won't give Professional Engineer status, but CCTT recognition will be a start.

There is also a recent accord (Dublin Accord)concerning Engineering Technicians, to which both the UK and Canada are a party
http://www.engc.org.uk/International...in_Accord.aspx


Jeremy

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

Many thanks lads, will check those websites out later.

I,m looking at continuing employment as a Project Engineer / Rotating Equipment Engineer ideally for an EPC (eg, Bantrel, Stone & Webster, etc) is the

Also, whats the deal with one years Canadian experience, why is it so different that the rest of the world? For example if I've worked on projects for Shell using API, Shell specs etc and procuring kit from major OEM,s why should those specs etc be any different if I was working in Canada ???

Guess it is case of if you can't beat them join em but want to make sure I select the right organisation.

Assume your both in engineering. What do you both do ??

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

Beats us! Let me know if you find out :) Any differences in legal codes or standards are covered by the obligatory ethics and law exams you have to take.

I'm an "everything" engineer, but officially my background is Materials Engineering with a bit of a diversion into Quality Engineering, and now overall responsibility for design, manufacturing, quality, product development etc etc for electrical filter components. Typical small company stuff, many hats to juggle.

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

Thanks mate, and congratulations on the sprog !

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

Hello mate,
Have just spoken to the IEE, they are sending me some forms with regards to registation to the ECUK, the IENG is part of the sydney accord which is recognised by Canadian employers so it would seem that you may not need to register with PENG or OACETT as they are similar, but it maybe easier to get a IENG hear in the uk which should take only 2 weeks (i am told) and more straight foward. You may have to be a member of a registered body like the institute of mechanical engineers before applying for the IENG. Only recognised bodies can apply on your behalf it would seem. I'll let you know more when i get the forms in the post.

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

UK membership wont necessarily help get canadian membership, the international agreement only goes as far as recognising qualifications, not experience, so you would still be left needing Canadian experience to qualify for full Canadian PEng status.

Is the P.Eng. (Canadian Professional Engineer) recognized in the United Kingdom?

No. There is no agreement between the Engineering Council in the United Kingdom and the CCPE for mobility at the full professional level. However, the two organizations agree on what university training and courses qualify you to become an engineer. This agreement is also held by engineering councils in the United States, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, France and South Africa.


As JAJ points out though, under the agreement if its good enough for the UK people, it should be good enough for the Canadians, but you will probably still need to submit transcripts etc for their approval. All a bit of a pain, but those seem to be the rules.

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

Hi all. I'm in the Royal Navy and have a HNC in Aerospace Engineering. Whats the best way to go about getting it accredited for use in Canada. With 23 years experience and 17 years as a senior supervisor I dont really want to start from scratch again if I can help it. Any advice would be welcome. :)

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

Most Canadian employers probably won't have heard of the Sydney Accord. The Sydney Accord means that the CCTT will recognise your qualification as equivalent to a Canadian one.

The IEng designation is not a substitute for a Canadian designation, but it will be good for your resume to apply for it, if you're eligible. It may help in some instances in Canada.



Jeremy

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

There is a separate arrangement in place (International Register of Professional Engineers) to which both the UK and Canada have signed up:
http://www.engc.org.uk/International..._Register.aspx



Jeremy

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

Post #3 of this thread should give you the information you need.

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

Someone should tell the CCPE then as thats where my quote about lack of mobility at full professional level came from :eek:

THe CCPE is the national organization of the 12 provincial and territorial associations that regulate the practice of engineering in Canada and license more than 160,000 canadian professional engineers

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

Someone on the UK section of the international professional engineer register ought to have a fairly simple process to become a Canadian PEng. If the process is difficult, then it ought to be reported to the EC-UK for followup with the CCPE.

However the point about lack of mobility at full professional level is still true, because not every UK CEng is eligible:

"ECUK regrets that, at this time, it is unable to receive applications from Chartered Engineers that have achieved this status through the Mature Candidate Route, Career Appraisal Route, or the Senior Route. Whilst, ECUK recognises the competency of these engineers, the International Register of Professional Engineers Agreement does not yet accept applicants through what our partners in the Agreement would consider 'competency routes'. ECUK is hopeful that this situation will change although this is likely to take a significant period of time."


Jeremy

Re: Engineer PEng or OACETT
 

And although the agreements are a step in the right direction, they are still far from the full mobility agreed upon and found within Nafta. Given time I'm sure full(ish) international mobility will occur, but for the time being canadian experience is still required unless you are covered by the US/Mexico agreement it seems.

At least there is academic equivalency though.

http://www.ccpe.ca/e/mob_international_1.cfm