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Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 6800169)
I expect there are some, I just don't think it's common. I thought it interesting that Portugal recently changed the definition of Portguese to match the language spoken in Brazil. That's as if we accepted "protest" as a verb because some oiks in remote countries have adopted that usage.
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Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 6800136)
What I think you're missing is that there are many Canadians who live quite happily without speaking either official language. If they want to hire people who speak the language of their firm I see no problem with that. For example, at the offices of Khalistan Trucking, a big firm in Brampton, do you think speaking English would be a valuable skill?
I doubt many Brazilians speak Spanish. I believe there's some sort of prejudice/national rivalry against it. "I DOUBT MANY BRAZILIANS SPEAK SPANISH. I BELIEVE THERE`S SOME SORT OF PREJUDICE/NATIONAL RIVALRY AGAINST IT" As for were you got this from or who told you this I don`t know:confused:. I can tell you that Portuguese people that live in Spain speak Spanish very well and at times its hard to distinguish them as not being Spanish speakers!!! As for national rivalry thats like saying English and French don`t ever to bother to learn each others language. There is certainly a great historical rivalry there. This last phrase of yours is certainly a strange observation??? |
Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 6800160)
But skilled workers / existing PRs ARE limited in who they can sponsor.
Extremely limited. One relative, and only if you have no close relatives already here. I dont understand your point:confused: |
Re: Election - what does it mean ?
I think Canadian Tire's marketing copyrighter may be Brazilian.
"Scie va-et-vient" is a ludicrous translation of "reciprocating saw". |
Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by Souvenir
(Post 6800247)
I think Canadian Tire's marketing copyrighter may be Brazilian.
"Scie va-et-vient" is a ludicrous translation of "reciprocating saw". |
Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by Jules Europe
(Post 6800224)
Point being that you first mentioned ALL family members, now if the case is just ONE family member then I see no real issue at all and language deficits between all those that speak and all those that don`t speak the host language shouldn`t overly grow.
Who you bring on your original application could be an extended group of wife and kids none of whom speak an official language. Its those members of the family that change the language dempographoics and bother the redneck element of unhyphenated canadians I think, and really there is no humaine way to descriminate against them at the worker selection point. |
Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 6800261)
Sponsorship after the fact is ONE person
Who you bring on your original application could be an extended group of wife and kids none of whom speak an official language. Its those members of the family that change the language dempographoics and bother the redneck element of unhyphenated canadians I think, and really there is no humaine way to descriminate against them at the worker selection point. Nobody is talking about discriminating against a skilled worker that speaks the host language or his dependent family whether the family speak it it or not. The rednecks that you speak of will always be around to discriminate about something anyway, if not this then its just going to be about something else. The real issue is the falling quotas that FSW face in the future to other classes, when the vast majority of these people have the skills, language and financial resources to establish themselves in Canada straight away. For example CEC will remove a lot of numbers from FSW quotas but at least applicants in this category are going to have to prove their language abilities, which in effect enforces the original argument that silled workers have to be able to speak the host language to a reasonable level after a couple of years to be eligible to enter Canada. |
Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 6800253)
That's a bit Eats, Shoots and Leaves-ish.
Incidentally, do you know of any good pubs near the Sutton Place? |
Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by Jules Europe
(Post 6800332)
For example CEC will remove a lot of numbers from FSW quotas but at least applicants in this category are going to have to prove their language abilities, which in effect enforces the original argument that silled workers have to be able to speak the host language to a reasonable level after a couple of years to be eligible to enter Canada. What's needed really is a total shift away from accepting FSW candidates on spec to widening the provincial nomination programs to be the normal route of entry. If you can convince someone to employ you and you meet the required standards, then you should be fast tracked into Canada ASAP. |
Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by Souvenir
(Post 6800338)
It is, particularly that there is a perfectly good translation available.
Incidentally, do you know of any good pubs near the Sutton Place? |
Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 6800362)
I'd probably walk up to the Duke of Gloucester. That's the one that used to be part of the chain until the regulars bought it out. That place Bazzz liked, where a pint is $22, is also near. The Elephant and Castle is less nice but has Fullers on tap and would be close to halfway between here and your hotel.
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Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 6800349)
FSW is a joke though, and the quaota numbers should be reduced to open up PNP places. The problem with FSW is that by the time workers finally are accepted, the labour market has long since moved on.
What's needed really is a total shift away from accepting FSW candidates on spec to widening the provincial nomination programs to be the normal route of entry. If you can convince someone to employ you and you meet the required standards, then you should be fast tracked into Canada ASAP. Certainly agree with you on the PNP program because the whole idea of it seems to be to address shortages on a regional level hence more accurate than the FSW program. Only problem is, that at times certain regional programs seem to be very unclear and vague in their requirements. For example the BC and AB programs seem to have every job in existence in one shape or form on them but do they really need all these people? If they do, why the long waits and the difficulty in getting there? Whereas Ontario has very little job shortages according to its PNP list but is still the favored destination of immigrants??? Then there is the NS program which states the option of a community identified program for anybody that has ties to the region. Whats this..............a couple of holidays there and becoming a member of the local yacht or bowling club??? Does that identify you with the NS??? All this need to be better laid out for potential immigrants supposedly something the Conservatives want to achieve |
Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by Souvenir
(Post 6800390)
Excellent, ta. Is the Fullers potable? It isn't in Ottawa's E&C.
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Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 6800404)
So-so. I've always made it back to the office before emitting noises or gases.
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Re: Election - what does it mean ?
Originally Posted by Souvenir
(Post 6800410)
Thank you for sharing. Oct 20/21?
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