Education: Canada has many obvious advantages for the emigrant Brit. As a single person coming from Britain with a complete academic education you'll find you'll not be lacking in the basics needed to adapt to a new modern society. The education in Canada, linked entirely to the American system and using a majority of American text books, is far more complete than that in Britain. Going to university after 'graduating' from High School is quite the norm, and with student loans and other kinds of public assistance available you'll have more opportunity to progress than you would in Britain. Note: Currently in all major city High Schools across Canada the average balance of non-whites to white students is: non-white 65% - white 35%, and rising. In Vancouver central, south, and east, it is 80% non-white to 20% white. By 2020 most young married people in Canada will be by far, non-white.

Other than the education being "more complete" (that is tosh, NA education is utterly lacking in depth and quality) it is a reasonable assessment. The really good thing is that if you come over with a complete (i.e. A level education) a UK student will find things will be really easy in further education, in all subjects except the more complex sciences. I did a second Canadian degree with two other Brits (three different major subjects) and we all found the work very easy to the point that two of us completed a four year degree in 16mths. I am by no means the sharpest knife in the drawer either.

So...what exactly is your point?......is this a racist comment because you're uncomfortable with the number of non-white immigrants that are coming to Canada to make a better life for themselves? If you had done any type of research you would have found out that the number of white immigrants wanting to come to Canada is very small compared to others.Canada has been trying to encourage immigrants from "white countries". Canada has to continue to allow immigrants of any colour, race or creed into Canada if they qualify because our birth-rate is very low (in fact at one of its lowest point) and if we don't continue to do so.....there will not be enough young people to sustain the economy, so when you and I are at an age for our old age pension and social security....there will be nohing there - because of the number of people reaching the age of retiring.

A country of our size and scope can certainly handle immigrants from any country - Everyone deserves to have a chance at a better life. Yes, even the person that wrote this racist message.

Hear! Hear!

Perhaps look at it a different way. Instead of trying to directly compare university between the two countries, look solely at the outcome. Do Canadian schools produce world class doctors, engineers, scientists, computer programmers, mathematicians...even historians? Yes, they do.

I agree with your anti-racist sentiment. I also agree with many Canadians who believe the immigration system is unfavourable to people from "white" - a rather archaic term - countries. That debate is for another thread.

I rather think that that was what SANDRAPAUL was doing.

That's not to disagree with the sentiment that the passage from which SANDRAPAUL quoted was a complete load of bollocks (to use a rather English expression!)

The whole article that the passage was lifted from originally was a load of bollocks if you ask me, as I think I tried to point out when Flashman first posted the link to it, long before its recent reappearance here. It didnt seem very rooted in recent immigrant experience to me.

Personally Im fed up by this whole comparison of UK / Canadian education. Sure, I can fully understand why parents would be concerned about not doing the wrong thing by there children, but Canada and the UK both have world class education systems, and turn out world class qualified candidates. They may do it in slightly different ways, but both rank consistently well in any international comparison of education standards you can find. I would disagree that the majority in Canada go from high school to university here, costs without a scholarship can be prohibative for those from less affluent backgrounds, just as is the case in the UK. Student debt levels in both places are a nightmare, and the days of state grants on either side of the Atlantic are well in the past, and its probably no coincidence that the original article was found in a magasine for the over 50s!

I am not even going to dignify the ethnic breakdown with a response, other than to say that if you give a shit about that type of thing, then give Canada a miss. Canada makes a big deal about the "ethnic mozaic" of its makeup, and it is something to be rightly proud of, especially if you look south of the border at the tensions that are present there.

Iain

Then Sq.P. isn't the only one that found that website:

http://www.50connect.co.uk/

I made the original posting with my tongue firmly in cheek to demonstrate the amount of misinformation available about Canada.

It's interesting that you bring that up.....because Immigration Canada (or wahtever there called) do have "stats" that confirm that "white immigrants" believe that in the long run - they are given a much more difficult process to immigrant to Canada than non-whites.....whether true or not....who knows.......one of the sample answer was.........anyone from a non-white country can just claim "refugee status" and get through the system much faster than others.....and that many of the refugee status folks are non-educated and are a burden on the system compared to highly qualified folks like on this forum.....where it can take up to 2 years to qualify.

Now, please don't take my remarks the wrong way and send me messages claiming I'm racist......I'm just referring to some stats from Immigration Canada. My remarks were in no way meant to be racist - that's not how I live my life believe me!!!

And we love you for it Flash!

Actually, this time it was lifted from here...

http://myweb.ecomplanet.com/LEPO6596...ompage0056.htm

With the emphasis on eCOMPLANEt

Its basically the same article, but now with some unsubstantiated stats tacked on. No reference to the source of them not surprisingly, but as you know 64.7% of all stats are made up on the spot! The whole site seemed very negative to me, but then you know what an optimist I am

Iain

Hi you lot

Do not shoot the messenger. It was taken from a long document. My only view was that it seemed to say to me in my ignorance that the Canadians do not seem to multiply (ie have sex and offspring). If they do they must have babies and therefore account for a good deal of the mix within the country. Seemed to be saying that ...heh - who the hell are the original residents!

PS.... Another comment made - and I will copy it into the forum... is that some 98% of all immigrants into canada from the UK eventually go back home. Is this crap or are the Coffins in the UK a better class when going down the final shoot?

PPS . Sorry iank and all others if I stummbled stupidly onto some sort of old crap on the web

Dont worry about it. Sorry if we jumped on the messenger!

Major problem for canadian demographics is maybe the number of skilled people who eventually are lured to the US by the percieved (if not actual) lower cost of living/ higher standard of living.

The falling birthrate seems to be true throghout the western world, maybe partly because with the cost of childcare and preducice against career women working again after having a family, maybe fewer couples are having kids, and those that do are doing it later. Dont have any stats to back it up, but its my perception. Pretty sure the 98% return rate is bogus too, although i did see something like 8-10% after the first 5 years.

Iain

I know too many Brits who have been here for donkeys years and too many offspring of Brits to believe that 98% head home - unless of course there is forced repatriation of corpses

Being a DINKI (Dual Income No KIds) is getting more popular over here - dogs seem to be the favorite child replacement - unless you're really keen, you don't have to pay for higher education for dogs.