Oh, I didn't realise that you wrote poetry
I didn't realise you wrote such bloody awful poetry, Mr. Shankly

Steven Patrick Morrissey

Talk is cheap and lies are expensive
My wallet's fat and so is my head
Hit and run and then I'll hit you again
You're a smart ass but I'm playing dumb

Adapted from Walking Contradiction by Green Day

Oh, I didn't realise that you wrote poetry
I didn't realise you wrote such bloody awful poetry, Mr. Shankly

Steven Patrick Morrissey


We should stop now, or its going to get REALLY boring for everyone else

Actually, not even in the suburbs. You are allowed to turn right on red everywhere in Quebec except on the island of Montreal which they deemed unsafe. (Too much traffic.)

It's only been in effect for a short time now. I remember the ads explaining how to turn right on red... "Look left, then right, then left again..". LOL

Siren

Ooh, it's like the green cross code, but back to front. Er, probably the red cross code then.

"Red Light Code"? If thats not for something entirely different

They don't have that sort of thing in Canada surely...?

If they don't, great opportunities lie ahead of us......

There's plenty here already I'm afraid.

OK, back on topic!

One important thing that I forgot to mention.

Just cos you have a green light doesnt necessarily mean you can make a quick right turn at the lights. Quite ofter the pedestrian lights will also be on walk at the same time, and pedestrians always have the right of way, so you will have to wait till they are done before turning. REMEMBER, ALWAYS SLOW DOWN AND CHECK THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS TOO WHEN MAKING A RIGHT.

Iain

And I also found recent in Calgary, people turn left from a one way onto a one way on a red too.

Overall tho the traffic manners in the city weren't as bad as i was led to believe. Does get really busy in rush hour tho.

Ah yes, that's also true in Ontario, though the number of pedestrians in Brampton and Mississauga, which is where I am most familiar with, is very low. But that makes it all the more important to remember that they do occasionally exist, I suppose.

That was the one that got me initially, thankfully there was someone who knew what they were doing infront of me so I quickly figured it out.

I never knew this, but always wondered. Nobody I asked ever knew, so I gave up trying to find out. Now I know. Thanks.

You only really get the opportunity todo that downtown, but it's allowed.

They're much nicer than they are in Ontario ... you go get the odd finger-waving horn honking moron, but they're in the minority ... I got one a few weeks ago, hocking his horn because I was slow to turn a corner ... I would have hit a pedestrian on the crosswalk if I'd been faster.

Found another one last Christmas at McLeod Trail because I dared pull onto the main road from a merge in front of him at the speed limit ... screamed, honked his horn, gave me the finger, you name it.

I guess two in one year isn't bad in comparison to the UK ... I used to drive on the M1 a lot and there are some real morons on that road at commuter time.