Do I really need a 4 wheel drive
#16
Would minivans such as toyota sienna and honda odyssey be considered okay to use on snow covered roads? I remember some of the minor residential streets in St Albert near Edmonton were reasonably hilly and if these sorts of roads are low priority for clearing snow then they could be tricky for quite a few days in the winter. I'd be a bit dubious about these heavy vehicles making easy progress on snow covered inclines.
Once you start to look at 4WD versions of the minivans it seems from the prices you may as well go for a mid SUV such as a highlander or pilot instead.
Anyone got experience of these or similar vehicles?
Once you start to look at 4WD versions of the minivans it seems from the prices you may as well go for a mid SUV such as a highlander or pilot instead.
Anyone got experience of these or similar vehicles?
#18
Would minivans such as toyota sienna and honda odyssey be considered okay to use on snow covered roads? I remember some of the minor residential streets in St Albert near Edmonton were reasonably hilly and if these sorts of roads are low priority for clearing snow then they could be tricky for quite a few days in the winter. I'd be a bit dubious about these heavy vehicles making easy progress on snow covered inclines.
Once you start to look at 4WD versions of the minivans it seems from the prices you may as well go for a mid SUV such as a highlander or pilot instead.
Anyone got experience of these or similar vehicles?
Once you start to look at 4WD versions of the minivans it seems from the prices you may as well go for a mid SUV such as a highlander or pilot instead.
Anyone got experience of these or similar vehicles?
Why would you go for a SUV with less practical space? The AWD vans usually start off life as up spec before AWD is added, same is true of many cars too, hence the heavy sticker shock...Subaru are the only people who seem to do base spec with AWD. Subaru with snow tires is the choice for my family in the winter, but as everyone else has said, winter tires are far more important than AWD for safety.
Last edited by iaink; Nov 13th 2008 at 5:38 am.
#19
Would minivans such as toyota sienna and honda odyssey be considered okay to use on snow covered roads? I remember some of the minor residential streets in St Albert near Edmonton were reasonably hilly and if these sorts of roads are low priority for clearing snow then they could be tricky for quite a few days in the winter. I'd be a bit dubious about these heavy vehicles making easy progress on snow covered inclines.
Once you start to look at 4WD versions of the minivans it seems from the prices you may as well go for a mid SUV such as a highlander or pilot instead.
Anyone got experience of these or similar vehicles?
Once you start to look at 4WD versions of the minivans it seems from the prices you may as well go for a mid SUV such as a highlander or pilot instead.
Anyone got experience of these or similar vehicles?
#20
Would minivans such as toyota sienna and honda odyssey be considered okay to use on snow covered roads? I remember some of the minor residential streets in St Albert near Edmonton were reasonably hilly and if these sorts of roads are low priority for clearing snow then they could be tricky for quite a few days in the winter. I'd be a bit dubious about these heavy vehicles making easy progress on snow covered inclines.
Once you start to look at 4WD versions of the minivans it seems from the prices you may as well go for a mid SUV such as a highlander or pilot instead.
Anyone got experience of these or similar vehicles?
Once you start to look at 4WD versions of the minivans it seems from the prices you may as well go for a mid SUV such as a highlander or pilot instead.
Anyone got experience of these or similar vehicles?
#21
Would minivans such as toyota sienna and honda odyssey be considered okay to use on snow covered roads? I remember some of the minor residential streets in St Albert near Edmonton were reasonably hilly and if these sorts of roads are low priority for clearing snow then they could be tricky for quite a few days in the winter. I'd be a bit dubious about these heavy vehicles making easy progress on snow covered inclines.
Once you start to look at 4WD versions of the minivans it seems from the prices you may as well go for a mid SUV such as a highlander or pilot instead.
Anyone got experience of these or similar vehicles?
Once you start to look at 4WD versions of the minivans it seems from the prices you may as well go for a mid SUV such as a highlander or pilot instead.
Anyone got experience of these or similar vehicles?
#22
I am about to move over to Okotoks in the new year. Everything is booked and am thinking about what car to buy. As you only get a few days 'snow' a year and the roads are cleared quickly (so I am told) do I really need a big 4 wheel drive truck. I would like to work with the environment, and get a smaller car or a hybrid.
I won't be doing too much driving, just around town and trips to calgary.
I won't be doing too much driving, just around town and trips to calgary.
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Personally I like a 4x4 and have just changed from a small SUV to a Ford Explorer.............3 times the size and exactly the same fuel economy
#24
Ha ha! You just reminded me of being 16 again, in Scotland in the winter!
I came off my Vespa on a stretch of sheet ice, and me and the scooter slid along the road for about 100 yards. When we stopped, I picked it up, and there wasn't a scratch on either of us.
Happy days!
I came off my Vespa on a stretch of sheet ice, and me and the scooter slid along the road for about 100 yards. When we stopped, I picked it up, and there wasn't a scratch on either of us.
Happy days!
#25
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Thankyou everyone for the information.
As it will be my car, it will be the 'second' car, so if the weather is bad I can always use the 'other' car.
We can check out all the cars when we arrive in January.
See you over there soon!!
As it will be my car, it will be the 'second' car, so if the weather is bad I can always use the 'other' car.
We can check out all the cars when we arrive in January.
See you over there soon!!
#26
It's Alberta. Presumably you need a lifted F250 just so the neighbours don't wonder at the effete 'yurpian who has moved in next door?
Out in the Far East we don't need 4x4's in winter. Oh not at all.....

Out in the Far East we don't need 4x4's in winter. Oh not at all.....
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Must check to see if I'm still in Alberta.
#28
Our neighbours to the south have an F150. The people beyond them an old F250, a new F250 King Ranch, a 90hp John Deere, two other tractors, a skid steer, a JD Gator and several large trucks. The people across the road have an F150, another truck and a Case with a loader. The people to the north of us two lifted F250s, an F350 crew cab, a small JD and several lifted Jeeps they use only off the road. Maybe I'm in Alberta.
Last edited by dbd33; Nov 13th 2008 at 12:13 pm.
#29
Heavy, FWD, Snow Tires = No problem. Mostly they have standard traction control anyway.
Why would you go for a SUV with less practical space? The AWD vans usually start off life as up spec before AWD is added, same is true of many cars too, hence the heavy sticker shock...Subaru are the only people who seem to do base spec with AWD. Subaru with snow tires is the choice for my family in the winter, but as everyone else has said, winter tires are far more important than AWD for safety.
Why would you go for a SUV with less practical space? The AWD vans usually start off life as up spec before AWD is added, same is true of many cars too, hence the heavy sticker shock...Subaru are the only people who seem to do base spec with AWD. Subaru with snow tires is the choice for my family in the winter, but as everyone else has said, winter tires are far more important than AWD for safety.
Last winter the Caravan was superb in the snow - heavy yet responsive. The Subaru was the "vespa on ice" as described beautifully above.
Turns out I had been driving the Caravan with winter tyres all year (
we thought they were all-season) and Subaru was on regular tyres. The Subaru will be getting some new boots any day now !
#30
You don't really need four wheel drive but its better to have it than not , I live in Okotoks and both our cars are 4 wheel drive , Wouldn't ever go back to 2 wheel drive after last winter, Car just feels so much more secure in the snow and ice although you have to bear in mind that doesn't lead to a false sense of security .
Also comes in handy when visiting the Rockies and you decide to take a trip down one of the many gravel roads out there.
Here's a scene from last winter ....
Also comes in handy when visiting the Rockies and you decide to take a trip down one of the many gravel roads out there.
Here's a scene from last winter ....



