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CANADIAN CARPERS May 19th 2011 8:20 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 
My wife has a masters degree in Midwifery with lots of fancy letters after her name. Over 12 years experience and has delivered over 1000 new lives into the world, however if she wants to work in Canada she must retrain at a Canadian university.

Novocastrian May 19th 2011 8:24 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by CANADIAN CARPERS (Post 9375728)
My wife has a masters degree in Midwifery with lots of fancy letters after her name. Over 12 years experience and has delivered over 1000 new lives into the world, however if she wants to work in Canada she must retrain at a Canadian university.

Regulated profession, innit? I'm not arguing in favour of these sort of blinkered rules. But we started out (I thought) discussing academic qualifications.

Chookie May 19th 2011 8:32 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by CANADIAN CARPERS (Post 9375728)
My wife has a masters degree in Midwifery with lots of fancy letters after her name. Over 12 years experience and has delivered over 1000 new lives into the world, however if she wants to work in Canada she must retrain at a Canadian university.

Exactly the same kind of problem I am finding with my career...

It seems that anything in any way related to health care, they refuse to accept anything but Canadian (and possibly US?) qualifications.

I have also encountered engineers (one of my clients) who has also had problems with his UK qualifications being recognised.

Almost Canadian May 19th 2011 9:15 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9375739)
Regulated profession, innit? I'm not arguing in favour of these sort of blinkered rules. But we started out (I thought) discussing academic qualifications.

But, unless one intends to remain in academia for one's entire life, one has to persuade an employer that one's credentials are worthy of consideration. IMVHO distance learning versus attending an institution is no-contest.

I wasn't stating this from the position of a regulated profession, but from the perspective of Canadian employers. Even in the wild west that is Calgary, it is still hugely important. Not that I expect you to accept it:p

Oink May 19th 2011 9:20 am

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Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 9375570)
The distance mode of delivery is becoming more common - if you take a distance/online course or program from the institution I work for, upon graduation you get a degree parchment that indicates it's a degree from the University, there's no distinction made about how you were taught. You get the same professors in the majority of instances after all, and the content is the same.

The local school district has implemented online options for high school students for a few years now, so student expectations are that the convenience of online learning should be available once they leave high school and enter higher ed.


Of course my experience is in a very limited area and hiring is very results orientated. When it comes to hiring support staff the ability and willingness to make a decent cup of tea and getting the biscuits is much more important than if they have a degree.

Novocastrian May 19th 2011 9:22 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9375835)
But, unless one intends to remain in academia for one's entire life, one has to persuade an employer that one's credentials are worthy of consideration. IMVHO distance learning versus attending an institution is no-contest.

I wasn't stating this from the position of a regulated profession, but from the perspective of Canadian employers. Even in the wild west that is Calgary, it is still hugely important. Not that I expect you to accept it:p

I agree that distance learning is only now becoming mainstream. But please note RICH's remarks that the degree is the same whether distance or traditional.

What I objected to in your original remarks was that if you did Canadian distance learning while residing in the UK it would make the slightest bit of difference to future employment prospects. I repeat: drivel.

Oink May 19th 2011 9:26 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 
To change the subject slightly, does anyone know how one can "do" a distance MBA from the U. of London without having an undergraduate degree? It seems a bit suss to me.

Almost Canadian May 19th 2011 9:26 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9375848)
What I objected to in your original remarks was that if you did Canadian distance learning while residing in the UK it would make the slightest bit of difference to future employment prospects. I repeat: drivel.

And as someone who has attempted to persuade a Canadian employer that a part time degree is as valid as a full time one, I repeat: it ain't drivel.

As I am sure you will accept, Canadian employers appear to be scared by anything that differs from the norm:p

Novocastrian May 19th 2011 9:32 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9375858)
And as someone who has attempted to persuade a Canadian employer that a part time degree is as valid as a full time one, I repeat: it ain't drivel.

Please re-read what I said.


As I am sure you will accept, Canadian employers appear to be scared by anything that differs from the norm:p
Some are, some aren't. Just like anywhere else.

R I C H May 19th 2011 9:41 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9375858)
And as someone who has attempted to persuade a Canadian employer that a part time degree is as valid as a full time one, I repeat: it ain't drivel.


We've distance learners that graduated after 5+ years of fitting in a degree and work/family commitments, and gone on to medical school to become doctors, or to law school and a host of other professions. By the time they're ready to search for work I doubt how long it took to get their initial qualification has any relevance at all, and we've no evidence here that supports the suggestion that working while studying is viewed at all negatively by employers. More the case that it shows initiative and dedication.

Almost Canadian May 19th 2011 10:32 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9375872)
Please re-read what I said.



Some are, some aren't. Just like anywhere else.


Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 9375894)
We've distance learners that graduated after 5+ years of fitting in a degree and work/family commitments, and gone on to medical school to become doctors, or to law school and a host of other professions. By the time they're ready to search for work I doubt how long it took to get their initial qualification has any relevance at all, and we've no evidence here that supports the suggestion that working while studying is viewed at all negatively by employers. More the case that it shows initiative and dedication.

I don't believe I said it was impossible just that Canada is way behind other countries in their acceptance of such a route. That's enough for me on this topic.:p

jesl May 20th 2011 12:55 pm

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 
Hi, please forgive if this is an inappropriate posting, but if so please guide me to the right place? I'm a Brit in the NY area, with two (now adult) kids born in the US, and am going thru the truly tortuous process of getting them (belated) UK citizenship... and am seeking expertise ... ideas gladly accepted!
JL

Novocastrian May 20th 2011 1:18 pm

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by jesl (Post 9378332)
Hi, please forgive if this is an inappropriate posting, but if so please guide me to the right place? I'm a Brit in the NY area, with two (now adult) kids born in the US, and am going thru the truly tortuous process of getting them (belated) UK citizenship... and am seeking expertise ... ideas gladly accepted!
JL

It's posted on a wildly inappropriate thread.

I'd suggest either somewhere in the US forum or possibly on one of the immigration threads (or MBTTUK).

Why is the process tortuous anyway? I believe it to be perfectly straightforward.

jesl May 20th 2011 1:30 pm

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 
well thankyou for the guidance.. and my honest apologies for inappropriate posting.....but to the uninitiated, the minotauric mazes (including trying to come horizontally into this discussion) are truly bemusing...and forms for accessing legitimate rights due to me are excruciating...

if I can presume further on your expertise, could you kindly translate (MBTTUK).. ?

Novocastrian May 20th 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by jesl (Post 9378368)
well thankyou for the guidance.. and my honest apologies for inappropriate posting.....but to the uninitiated, the minotauric mazes (including trying to come horizontally into this discussion) are truly bemusing...and forms for accessing legitimate rights due to me are excruciating...

if I can presume further on your expertise, could you kindly translate (MBTTUK).. ?

Oh, sorry. There's a sub forum on here in the General Area called "Moving Back to the UK". Peeps on there might have faced the same issue as you.


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