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newton817 May 18th 2011 9:28 am

Distance learning from Canada
 
Hi all,

I'm currently living in the north of England and interested in doing an environmental management course from a Canadian college or University. Can anyone give me an idea on how I go about this, which establishment and what's the best course?

Thank you all in advance of your help, much appreciated

Paul

R I C H May 18th 2011 9:33 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 
Distance learning options from Canadian universities:

http://www.cvu-uvc.ca/english.html

Almost Canadian May 18th 2011 10:03 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by newton817 (Post 9373422)
Hi all,

I'm currently living in the north of England and interested in doing an environmental management course from a Canadian college or University. Can anyone give me an idea on how I go about this, which establishment and what's the best course?

Thank you all in advance of your help, much appreciated

Paul

Be aware that Canadians can be academic snobs when it comes to education. They assume that those that don't attend are not good enough to get in. Living in a different country may not cut it. Just a thought.:blink:

newton817 May 18th 2011 10:14 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 
Kind regards dear sir.

Novocastrian May 18th 2011 10:18 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9373499)
Be aware that Canadians can be academic snobs when it comes to education. They assume that those that don't attend are not good enough to get in. Living in a different country may not cut it. Just a thought.:blink:

Eh?

newton817 May 18th 2011 10:35 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9373499)
Be aware that Canadians can be academic snobs when it comes to education. They assume that those that don't attend are not good enough to get in. Living in a different country may not cut it. Just a thought.:blink:

If my family would move to Canada, my resources would stretch that far and I could sell my house, I would definitely attend in person.

The reason I have asked my original question and I am keen to try a Canadian course is I have friend just moved over last year and he is raving about the difference in the quality of education over there. So I thought do a course and lets see and maybe you can't blame them for being snobby.

I am doing an Nebosh general certificate course over here at the moment and it just seems like they're just interested in the fee not the student. The quality of education in the UK has become impersonal. Plus the fees are extortionate.

newton817 May 18th 2011 10:44 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9373525)
Eh?

At the time of typing there was only rich that had replied, the "kind regards dear sir" was aimed at him. Sorry for the confusion.:confused:

R I C H May 18th 2011 11:03 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 
you're welcome.

Novocastrian May 18th 2011 11:16 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by newton817 (Post 9373565)
At the time of typing there was only rich that had replied, the "kind regards dear sir" was aimed at him. Sorry for the confusion.:confused:

And my "eh?" was not in response to your post, but rather to the drivel contributed by Almost Canadian.

Have a look at the FES courses at York U in Toronto.

newton817 May 18th 2011 11:59 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9373617)
And my "eh?" was not in response to your post, but rather to the drivel contributed by Almost Canadian.

Have a look at the FES courses at York U in Toronto.

Thank you

rob.blackie May 18th 2011 12:13 pm

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 
Just out of interest - does anyone know if the Open U in the UK do distance learning for us Canadian ressies?

Almost Canadian May 19th 2011 1:35 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9373617)
And my "eh?" was not in response to your post, but rather to the drivel contributed by Almost Canadian.

Have a look at the FES courses at York U in Toronto.

It is not drivel but something I see everyday.

Canadians believe their education system is the best in the world. It may be, it may not be, something I have no interest in researching, nor do I care about the answer.

Outside of the academic world, I submit that, where one attends university is irrelevant (just because one attended Harvard for law, it doesn't necessarily follow that one will become a great lawyer - the difference between academic and practical ability).

Lots of potential law students in Canada attend Cardiff University to obtain their LL.B. I have met lots of Canadian born lawyers that obtained their LL.B. from Cardiff. I have never met one that obtain their LL.B. from another English or Welsh University. For some reason they appear to gravitate to Cardiff.

The result of this is that most Canadian lawyers one meets assume that, if one's LL.B. is English, it is because one wasn't good enough to get into a Canadian University. They appear to believe this even if one was born from England. I have met South African, Australian, etc. lawyers that say the same thing. I have heard the same thing said by doctors, engineers, architects, etc. that I have met.

As has been noted by various other posters on this board from time to time, the piece of paper one holds in Canada would appear to be way more important than one's actually ability. It is my understanding that it is not possible to obtain a law degree by distance learning in Canada, so I have no actual knowledge of how Canadians view such qualifications. However, I know of many that obtained their pieces of paper by distance learning in other professions and, invariably, they state that employers do not like them. It would appear that the rationale for such objections is: "You weren't good enough to attend "regular" school."

I have no particular axe to grind as I am not an educator nor will I be employing the OP. I merely wished to point out that employers see things differently from their English counterparts this side of the pond. I apologize to you for having the temerity to state something that, based on your experience, you are unable to agree with. Unfortunately, we all have different experiences and the above is mine.

charlottyb May 19th 2011 2:06 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 
I currently doing an online Nursing Course at UVIC, which happens to be my local uni here.
Be warned that you need PR to then be charged at the regular fee. My courses cost $460 a time. If I was an international applicant it would be $1500!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Novocastrian May 19th 2011 4:27 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9374820)
It is not drivel but something I see everyday.

Canadians believe their education system is the best in the world. It may be, it may not be, something I have no interest in researching, nor do I care about the answer.

Outside of the academic world, I submit that, where one attends university is irrelevant (just because one attended Harvard for law, it doesn't necessarily follow that one will become a great lawyer - the difference between academic and practical ability).

Lots of potential law students in Canada attend Cardiff University to obtain their LL.B. I have met lots of Canadian born lawyers that obtained their LL.B. from Cardiff. I have never met one that obtain their LL.B. from another English or Welsh University. For some reason they appear to gravitate to Cardiff.

The result of this is that most Canadian lawyers one meets assume that, if one's LL.B. is English, it is because one wasn't good enough to get into a Canadian University. They appear to believe this even if one was born from England. I have met South African, Australian, etc. lawyers that say the same thing. I have heard the same thing said by doctors, engineers, architects, etc. that I have met.

As has been noted by various other posters on this board from time to time, the piece of paper one holds in Canada would appear to be way more important than one's actually ability. It is my understanding that it is not possible to obtain a law degree by distance learning in Canada, so I have no actual knowledge of how Canadians view such qualifications. However, I know of many that obtained their pieces of paper by distance learning in other professions and, invariably, they state that employers do not like them. It would appear that the rationale for such objections is: "You weren't good enough to attend "regular" school."

I have no particular axe to grind as I am not an educator nor will I be employing the OP. I merely wished to point out that employers see things differently from their English counterparts this side of the pond. I apologize to you for having the temerity to state something that, based on your experience, you are unable to agree with. Unfortunately, we all have different experiences and the above is mine.

Longer drivel. And who mentioned lawyers?

R I C H May 19th 2011 4:35 am

Re: Distance learning from Canada
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9374820)
Outside of the academic world, I submit that, where one attends university is irrelevant (just because one attended Harvard for law, it doesn't necessarily follow that one will become a great lawyer - the difference between academic and practical ability).

As has been noted by various other posters on this board from time to time, the piece of paper one holds in Canada would appear to be way more important than one's actually ability.


There's some truth in this in my experience. Working at a university, I'm bound by union collective agreements when it comes to hiring practices. I read several hundred resumes a year, and cannot hire staff that don't have a relevant degree. Countless applicants have perfectly adequate experience and ability, but not the requisite degree, so I can't interview them.

It's nonsensical, particularly in work disciplines that are new or emerging. If I need a social media specialist, the union puts a 5yr experience requirement + relevant degree into the job description. Finding someone with 5yrs of commercial social media experience is hard enough, tagging on a degree requirement too makes hiring an almost impossible task. Roles get advertised, re-advertised and re-advertised due to entrenched ideas about what makes a suitable employee.


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