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Old Oct 21st 2010 | 3:25 am
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Hi there,
I'm looking for some advice please. My family and I are planning to relocate to PEI next year as a Long Haul Trucker NOC 7411 on PNP. My question is regarding my 18 year old son, does anyone know how long it will be before he will be able to work and for that matter my wife also?

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Old Oct 21st 2010 | 4:03 am
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The answer hasn't changed from the last time you asked the question..........http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=687245 unless you are now getting PR before going rather than a TWP?

If a TWP, neither your wife nor your son would be able to work until they've either got PR or a work permit in their own right.
 
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
If a TWP, neither your wife nor your son would be able to work until they've either got PR or a work permit in their own right.
Is that cos its a PNP situation then? Just wondering...

Normally a spouse of a (normal) TWP applicant is eligible to get an open permit. Dont know about kids of working age TBH. At what point do they cease to be dependent if not in full time education?

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Old Oct 21st 2010 | 4:09 am
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Originally Posted by iaink
Is that cos its a PNP situation then? Just wondering...

Normally a spouse of a (normal) TWP applicant is eligible to get an open permit. Dont know about kids of working age TBH.
Depends on the skill level - spouses of those on a TWP for Skill Level A, O or B jobs can get a Spousal Open Work Permit. Unfortunately for the OP, trucking is a Skill Level C job.

And they cease to be dependent at age 22, but children of those on a TWP can't work unfortunately. So the son of the OP can stay in Canada until he's 22, and can study, but cannot work at all unless he gets his own TWP. I did suggest Bunac in his last thread.
 
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
The answer hasn't changed from the last time you asked the question..........http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=687245 unless you are now getting PR before going rather than a TWP?

If a TWP, neither your wife nor your son would be able to work until they've either got PR or a work permit in their own right.
Thanks,
Is that the same for all Provence's, would you know?

Thanks again
 
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Depends on the skill level - spouses of those on a TWP for Skill Level A, O or B jobs can get a Spousal Open Work Permit. Unfortunately for the OP, trucking is a Skill Level C job.

And they cease to be dependent at age 22, but children of those on a TWP can't work unfortunately. So the son of the OP can stay in Canada until he's 22, and can study, but cannot work at all unless he gets his own TWP. I did suggest Bunac in his last thread.
Ah, cheers for that Lucy... you know your stuff (or know a man that does)
 
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Originally Posted by dirtytrucker
Thanks,
Is that the same for all Provence's, would you know?

Thanks again
Yes, I'm afraid so. There are a couple of provinces (I think it's AB and ON) where dependent children can get an open work permit off the back of a TWP, but again only if the TWP holder is in a Skill Level A, O or B job.
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
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Originally Posted by dirtytrucker
Thanks,
Is that the same for all Provence's, would you know?

Thanks again
I queried my wifes posistion with Manitoba Immigration a couple of days ago. We are hoping to get over on a TWP early 2011. My occupation is definately not in Skill Level A, O or B. They confirmed that my wife will recieve an Open Work Permit when I get my TWP at customs in Toronto. That is from the horses mouth. Fraid I can't advise about the child though. Mines 11 so not a issue yet.
Just waiting on LMO result now.
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Originally Posted by GC44
That is from the horses mouth.
Very odd, as the official 'horses mouth' says different - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...work-faq08.asp

I'd double check that info with an expert, particularly if you are relying on your wife being able to work whilst there.

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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Very odd, as the official 'horses mouth' says different - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...work-faq08.asp

I'd double check that info with an expert, particularly if you are relying on your wife being able to work whilst there.
Maybe different ends of the horse, typical govt. one end does not know what the others doing
 
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Very odd, as the official 'horses mouth' says different - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...work-faq08.asp

I'd double check that info with an expert, particularly if you are relying on your wife being able to work whilst there.
I agree, I did find it odd so I double checked with the Immigration Officer in Winnipeg. Any more expert than that then I haven't heard of them (without paying a fee). His final line was "if you have any problems, then call me." Maybe he is half expecting a call
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According to the manual, as you are a PNP candidate your spouse CAN get an open work permit regardless of the catagory of work you do (i.e. "C" )

http://www.cic.gc.ca/English//resour...w/fw01-eng.pdf

Section 5:38 / note

Note: Spouses or common-law partners of work permit holders who have been nominated for permanent residence by a province will be entitled to open work permits for the duration of the work permit of the provincial nominee principal applicant, irrespective of the skill level of the principal applicant’s occupation.

While there is reluctance on the part of CIC and HRSDC/SC to support work permits for lower-skilled workers because their skills profile would not normally qualify them for permanent immigration to Canada, concerns regarding these persons going out of status and remaining in Canada illegally are mitigated when the foreign national has been nominated for permanent residence. If a province feels a foreign national is sufficiently needed in its labour market to nominate that person, then having that job filled is clearly important, irrespective of where in the NOC that particular job is classified. Since, in the long run, the spouse or common-law partner is going to be a member of the Canadian labour market anyway, allowing them to enter the market and begin work as soon as possible will hasten the integration process

Alberta also have spousal work permits for truck driver applicants:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/English//resour...#tphp%20idtphp

“7.2 The Canada-Alberta Working Group on TFWs, defined in section 9.2, will initiate the following pilot projects within 12 months of signing this Annex: ...

“b) Spouses [and common-law partners] of long-haul truck drivers operating out of Alberta being eligible to receive open work permits.”

Furthermore, 7.3 of the Annex allows that spouses (and common-law partners) described above be exempt from the requirement to obtain a Labour Market Opinion (LMO).

In order to see the full Agreement, please click on the following link: Agreement for Canada-Alberta Cooperation on Immigration

The purpose of this operational bulletin is to advise officers of a pilot project to fulfill Citizenship and Immigration Canada’s commitment under paragraph 7.2(b) of the TFW Annex in this agreement.

New Pilot parameters

This pilot has been extended from August 17th, 2010 to July 30, 2012 inclusive. These dates refer only to the period in which qualifying work permits can be issued, not to the duration of the work permits. The terms of the pilot will apply only to qualifying foreign nationals (as described below) destined to work in the province of Alberta.
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Old Oct 21st 2010 | 9:00 pm
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Originally Posted by siouxie
According to the manual, as you are a PNP candidate your spouse CAN get an open work permit regardless of the catagory of work you do (i.e. "C" )
Out of interest, who do you think has been nominated for PNP, GC44 or the OP?
 
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Out of interest, who do you think has been nominated for PNP, GC44 or the OP?

The OP, obviously!

"... Hi there,
I'm looking for some advice please. My family and I are planning to relocate to PEI next year as a Long Haul Trucker NOC 7411 on PNP. My question is regarding my 18 year old son, does anyone know how long it will be before he will be able to work and for that matter my wife also?

Regards and Thanks

Ian..."

and

"... Thanks,
Is that the same for all Provence's, would you know?

Thanks again..."



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