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Old May 27th 2010 | 3:49 am
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Originally Posted by Souvy
I'm guessing that it's a Quebec thing. Provincial law here is similar to the Napoleonic Code used in France. Maybe the similarities extend?

Either way, I asked her a very direct question and got a very direct answer.

"mmmmm mmmm gag mmmm gag mmmmm"

"I just had to sit one exam".
Dunno but should clarify that I meant clinical residency, not living-in-Canada residency.
 
Old May 27th 2010 | 3:49 am
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Originally Posted by iaink
Maybe you should, then you can find out the difference.


I suppose it depends a lot on your teeth too. If you have perfectly arranged teeth and a brush/ floss reaches all the corners you might get away with it.

Mine are not exactly straight inplaces, and there are spots where plaque / tartar builds up that escape the attention of both brush and floss. Its like night and day before and after the hygenist, who of course is also on the look out for other problems too. I think of it as an insurance policy against far more expensive problems years down the line.

Dentistry here is certainly better than I experienced in the UK, but thank God for benefits to pay for it!
Exactly. I had gingivites during both my pregnancies and my UK dentist did nothing to help or control and damage. Looking back I feel mighty pissed because that's one reason why pregnant ladies are given free dental care during and 1 year after pregnancy - gingivites is common during that time and causes a lot of damage.

Hence, I have had trouble with my gums ever since and only since moving to Canada has it improved vastly. My kids, who have never had a filling between them, see the hygenist twice a year to as it is considered preventative.

Costs approximately $23 for checkup and hygenist cleaning with insurance. I had an old large amalgam filling replaced last week for a new white one at the cost of $31. My dentist uses gum numbing gel prior to freezing and I never felt the needle AT ALL
 
Old May 27th 2010 | 3:52 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33
I'm not claiming to be an authority but my memory of the story is:

- qualifications to be converted by taking a course (one year, two? long enough that they bought a house near the school anyway)

- course covered only stuff he already knew

- some issue about residency being required and hardly any places being available making it difficult to get in

Maybe it was problematic that his qualification was from the UK, perhaps he could have gone to France, requalified there and challenged the Canadian exam. Perhaps the rules have changed. Perhaps it's different in Quebec.
Was he a dentist or a dental surgeon perhaps?...the surgery aspect in the UK requires long additional training and would run into the same residency requirement issues here that UK doctors can face...

Might be the same for dentistry, you are right though that it was a bunch of hassle for biiinks husband for whatever reason.
 
Old May 27th 2010 | 3:55 am
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Originally Posted by Souvy
Not on here, no. It was a discussion with my dentist.
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Old May 27th 2010 | 7:09 am
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hi i am in airdrie as well yes i need 3 crowns to be done at $1200 each was waiting for wife to get her benifit now i have lost my job so no benifits at all
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Old May 27th 2010 | 7:29 am
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Hmm, where to start. Private dentis vs NHs dentis.
I was registered with a private dentist (although she carried out NHS treatments one day a week) I went in for a wisdonm tooth extractio, just as she is about to start, she say, we usually refer people to the hospital for wisdom teeth, then proceeded to yank away in my mouth. Needless to say, she sheared away half the tooth, couldn't get the rest out, and had to do referral to hospital.
I was left in apin for a LONG time.
Went to hospital for NHs to finish what she started, cound not have been better, no pain, in and out within 20 mins. I'd pick NHS over that private lady any day!
Yet to experience canadian option on dentistry, but sounds expensive, so i'll just have to take good care of them!!
 
Old May 27th 2010 | 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by pacepeter
hi i am in airdrie as well yes i need 3 crowns to be done at $1200 each was waiting for wife to get her benifit now i have lost my job so no benifits at all
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Did your employer not give you the option to keep paying for your benefits for a few months once they let you go....it seems standard practice around here, at least in my experience.

$1200 each seems steep, but its been a while since I had root canal/ crowns done.
 
Old May 27th 2010 | 8:24 am
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Don't kid yourself private in UK is expensive as well.
1 filling and a proper cleaning £250...so there is a difference between the way they work on NHS patients opposed to those of us who paid for proper dentistry.

I have always paid for my dentistry so I did find NHS substandard compared to canadian dentists....
 
Old May 27th 2010 | 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by iaink
Maybe you should, then you can find out the difference.


I suppose it depends a lot on your teeth too. If you have perfectly arranged teeth and a brush/ floss reaches all the corners you might get away with it.

Mine are not exactly straight inplaces, and there are spots where plaque / tartar builds up that escape the attention of both brush and floss. Its like night and day before and after the hygenist, who of course is also on the look out for other problems too. I think of it as an insurance policy against far more expensive problems years down the line.

Dentistry here is certainly better than I experienced in the UK, but thank God for benefits to pay for it!
Nope - friend is dentist in Uk and he did a scale and polish on a few teeth for me to see the diff - because I felt left out of the S & P club - was no diff!! I must have lucky teeth
 
Old May 27th 2010 | 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by HPJOS
Not sure if I was ripped off or if Calgary dentists generally rip people off. I guess it is the naivety in me thinking they all charge the same but I don't have much experience with actual "work" from dentists so have very little to compare with. My husband had fillings redone and they were much cheaper, more like $100-$150 each, but that might be a cheaper as less work involved? He also said he was in a rush so no need to bother with anasthetic Apparently that knocked 30 minutes off the appointment time!

I really do think they treat the plan you have rather than the patient, but as I said in my first post the palative care was fantastic and I would rather see this dentist whom I actually like and is professional. The first one I had spent half the time in the room discussing his new car with the hygenist!!
I've been quite impressed with the dentists I've been to in Edmonton and then Calgary and they've picked up a couple of things that should have been sorted out before. However, without a company health plan I would consider the cost very high, probably higher than private in the UK.

NHS is fine for what it is - a lower cost more basic level of treatment. There are still plenty of NHS dentists in the UK despite the occasional headline about queues for dentists. Also there is no charge for children and OAPs so it is a good safety net for everyone.

Like the UK, dentists here will charge the maximum the market will bear. Here I think the market will bear a higher price as the company health plans are probably more common and the dentists can take advantage of that. The NHS alternative probably helps to restrain the wilder excesses of private dentists overcharging in the UK.
 
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Originally Posted by Edo
On here? Could you send me the link to that post please? Dont mean to hijack this thread but we have just started our research on how can my wife get registered in Canada so we'll appreciate any sort of help or would like to hear from people who have done it
currently in manitoba a UK trained dentist will need to go to university for two years before they can practice.

Your wife should check the requirements in the province you are heading to. It may be that the requirements on the east coast are more relaxed
 
Old May 27th 2010 | 7:04 pm
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I went to the dentist today to have a couple of "minor" fillings done. The whole process was (almost) completely relaxing apart from the drilling. I was highly impressed with the patient care and the actual photographs taken of the teeth to see the beginning, middle and end were very interesting and much easier for the untrained x-ray reader like me to understand what they were actually doing.

The damage - $888!!

Luckily my work health plan covers just about all of this but I almost fell over, I though she said $8.88 to start with thinking she had put the claim through my insurance already. And this was with the new dentist I have not the old one...

So a snap shot of potential minor work costs for you if heading to the Calgary area.

So keep brushing, flossing and avoid sweetened & fizzy drinks

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I was told that i had an impacted tooth at the back around 2001. I had a specialist lined up but at the last minute couldnt get it done cos my wife had to work and couldnt pick me up from the dentists. Anyhooo... when i went back to London i got an NHS dentist. I told him about it and he showed me an xray and low and behold there was no tooth there at all. I always wondered about the whole company insurance and going to the dentist constantly, like they do over there. If you wanna be rich in Canada, become a dentist.

Ooh and its so expensive in Ireland for dentist that people go for a weekend to Hungary and have dental work done over there cos it so much cheaper. My cousin just did it and said they were excellent and a 3rd of the price.

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Old May 27th 2010 | 7:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Cdnshaz
don't you ever wonder why brits take alot of bad teeth jokes???
cos your dentist are shite thats why!! I paid for private dentist in UK and it was amazing how a cleaning went from a 10 minute job to a proper 45 mins job...cleanings are not done in 10 mns...!!!
We also have white fillings here, not in UK unless you pay for them....and to be honest dentists in UK are tired of making nothing for their work that's why so many are going private.

You complain about the price of dentist in Canada but face facts, they do better work here!!
Bit sweeping and generalising. Just cos your dentist was obviously shite. The whole bad teeth brits drove me insane when i was over there. Having come back i agree there are a lot of bad teeth here but thats cos people dont go not the quality of the dentists.
 
Old May 28th 2010 | 1:07 am
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To be fair Canada does also have a baseline welfare level access to dentistry... I know the guy who administers it locally. The problem with it is it does nothing for preventative maintainence and will only intervene at the point things are so bad something has to be done, and it only applies to those near the bottom of the welfare heap.


I dont think the brits have "Bad" (ie unhealthy) teeth, but under the NHS the emphasis is on function, not aesthetics, so there is not the prevalence of cosmetic veneers, braces for kids with even slighty imperfect smiles etc etc. In short they may look bad, but I suspect that overall british mouths may even be more healthy then here as everyone at least has affordable access to basic care.

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Old May 28th 2010 | 1:11 am
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Originally Posted by Londonuck
If you wanna be rich in Canada, become a dentist.

That's the truth. My Calgary dentist regales me with hilarious tales about the expense of having to send his daughters to Oxford University, and of the outrageous thieves at Mercedes who deign to service his CL55 AMG.
 


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